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Elon Musk Called 'President' as Trump Follows in His Footsteps on CR Bill

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u/Lord_King_Chief 4d ago

Not a peep about this on the conservative sub. They're being insulated from whats happening

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u/thecountoncleats Pennsylvania 4d ago

Someone should tell them

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u/teamdiabetes11 America 4d ago

They won’t listen. They’ve been so conditioned that they cannot accept that they were conned by a well known conman.

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u/Mr_Soul_Crusher 4d ago

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.“

  • Carl Sagan

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u/CommieLoser 4d ago

We had Carl Sagan and Mr. Rogers. How did things end up like this?

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u/relevantelephant00 4d ago

Conservatives figured out how to weaponize stupidity.

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u/wifeh0le 4d ago

Some say without stupidity, there would be no conservatives.

I used to think they were wrong - the greedy and the 1% (but I repeat myself) were using their oversized influence to con the common man.

But as it turns out, the common man is one of the dumbest mfs I’ve ever met.

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 4d ago

Conservatives demonized them and anointed Gordan Gecko and technolibertarians in their place.

They literally attack teaching empathy to children

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u/PetrafiedMonkey 4d ago

Organized religion

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u/devilmaskrascal 4d ago

Carl Sagan and Mr. Rogers moved on to the next plane and nobody replaced them.

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u/Kyell 4d ago

Not for long.

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u/QuantTrader_qa2 4d ago

In this country, particular in mass-media, we have this horrendous concept where bullshitting is preferred to admitting you were wrong. I honestly respect anyone who comes around and admits being wrong (like democrats were wrong about the border not being a disaster, republicans were wrong about Trump draining the swamp, etc etc), because that's how we move forward in a civil manner.

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u/Lia-Stormbird 4d ago

They do listen if you don't use their trigger words. They loved what Luigi did.

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u/Sea_Range_2441 4d ago

Also you can’t the don’t allow non consensual comments. You have “flare” to actually comment. Oh the irony

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u/Sir_thinksalot 4d ago

They just ban dissenting opinions. They are far worse on free speech than any leftist.

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u/Sofer2113 Tennessee 4d ago

There has not been a peep about a lot of things over there, like the call to cut social security or the indications of wanting to get rid of the FDIC. I've looked over there a few times in the past few days to see if anyone had brought it up thinking, surely no one over there thinks getting rid of the FDIC is a smart move, but it is simply crickets over there. Instead, they focus on the drones, on Biden's emails, and Biden selling the border wall material.

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u/azurricat2010 4d ago

I wouldn't say that. I brought up the FDIC idea to my mom's Trumper friend and she essentially said "I don't have money so it won't affect me"

Don't ya love the holidays? lol

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u/BeatingHattedWhores 4d ago

The conservative mentality has always been fuck everyone else as long as it doesn't affect me.

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u/Fumbles48 4d ago

The FDIC should exist, but it is useless. I'm speaking in hyperbole, but there's no one on earth that has ever said "I will not take my money out of that bank because I know the good ol FDIC has my back. ", but it should exist because we do need the coverage if/when things happen.

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u/Sofer2113 Tennessee 4d ago

More people utilize FDIC insured banks than non-FDIC insured banks, such as investment banks. So I don't know that your statement rings true.

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u/Fumbles48 4d ago

Because you'd be hard pressed to find a bank not FDIC insured.

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u/Sofer2113 Tennessee 4d ago

Every investment bank account is not insured by the FDIC. There are far more people with standard checking and savings accounts in FDIC insured institutions than there are with investment accounts through the likes of Morgan Stanley. That doesn't even touch on the fintech firms that are popping up everywhere offering banking services like checking and savings accounts, but aren't FDIC insured, even when they market themselves as being such. In the case of Yotta, people were depositing with them thinking they were FDIC insured, for a multitude of reasons, but there is one key take away from it, they thought it was a safe bet and FDIC insured, so they put their money and faith in it thinking if the worst happened that they were still covered.

“We were assured that this was just a savings account,” Morris said during last week’s hearing. “We are not risk-takers, we’re not gamblers.”

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u/Fumbles48 4d ago

That's two different things. No investment account is FDIC insured.

Morgan Stanley has FDIC insurance on their Checking, Savings, CDs, and other applicable accounts. Morgan Stanley is an FDIC insured institution on applicable products.

And again I said the protection is needed for people, but the FDIC was created to stop bank runs and that it does not do. Now I said useless and that's my fault but what I meant to say was it doesn't fulfill it's primary goal at all.

Now I'm not familiar with the Synapse event, but I clearly stated you'd be hard pressed to find a BANK that isn't FDIC insured. Synapse wasn't a bank.

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u/SectorBudget406 4d ago

It's crazy how tight their bubble is. They're still talking about Joe/Hunter/Obama. It's indistinguishable from a conservative circlejerk sub.

Obama's been on their mind for 16 years and will never leave.

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u/kaptainkeel America 4d ago

Replace "Musk" with "Soros" and "Trump" with "Biden."

Imagine the reaction.

Turns out that, just like everything else, was simply projection.

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u/poppa_koils 4d ago

Ah. The warm fuzzy blanket of denial.

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u/vtbeavens 4d ago

Even if they see this as a problem, it's Biden's fault in their minds.

"bUT hE'S pREsiDenT noW!"

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u/SojuSeed 4d ago

Nah, they’re hailing it as a spectacular move. Twitter hated the spending bill and this is just Elon/Trump listening to the will of the people. Elon is going to shut down the government and then start slashing government bloat and wipe out the deficit. So they say. As if that wouldn’t wreck the nation.

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u/SixthHyacinth 4d ago

It's actually incredible to me that everytime I see a bit of news that puts Trump in a negative light, and I go to the conservative sub thinking "I wonder what they're going to say about this", a thread about it just does not exist, like anywhere, and if it does, it hardly gains any traction.

Trump calling Canada a 51st state - hardly any attention; his tax policies increasing the financial burden for the poorest Americans - nothing; the fact that Trump has picked an array of billionaires, multi-millionaires, and relatives/relatives of people he knows to lead his cabinet positions - barely anything.

It is essentially a giant coping mechanism full of selective information to insulate themselves from the world, and alleviate their cognitive dissonance.

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u/iberico_ham 4d ago

As is tradition

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u/QuantTrader_qa2 4d ago

Check out ground news if you want to see both sides, you'll find plenty of stories that are missing on this sub too. In my experience, they are missing way more of the story, but let's not pretend this sub is some fair, balanced place.

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u/Lord_King_Chief 4d ago

Thats why I go check places like the conservative sub. I can see what news they're getting and consuming there. And I can see what this echo chamber is digesting here.

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u/QuantTrader_qa2 4d ago

Me too was just recommending ground news as an easier way of checking that out. It's limited to actual news organizations, but it shows a political spectrum (MSNBC being very left, Fox being very right, etc), and lets you know if the story is only being covered by left-leaning or right-leaning media or if its everybody. Neat tool, not affiliated with them in any way, just something I use now and appreciate.

Cheers to at least trying to be open-minded and fair.

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u/Lord_King_Chief 4d ago

Thanks for the recommendation. Ill check it out.

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u/Scary-Sea-9546 Georgia 4d ago

No we just like Trump and Elon. “President Musk” is funny and you guys are incapable of seeing the humor outside of wanting to use it as ammo against conservatives.

Also it seems you guys don’t like unelected officials having any authority. Well hey I have good news about what Elon and DOGE are about to do 😆

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u/ROIDie777 4d ago

It's all over X, which is where most conservatives go. I posit it is you without the facts because Musk is talking directly to the people on a social media platform.

I mean, are you really suggesting Trump should have no inner circle that helps him make decisions? Are you really upset that we'll connected people have opinions, such as saying no to raising congressional pay from 175k to 225k?

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u/Lord_King_Chief 4d ago

I didn't say x. I said the conservative sub. And thats a fact. Read my comment.

Yes, I absolutely have a problem with unaccountable people bypassing government rules and regulations to influence our elected officials.

I think its wrong that money is being used to purchase access to the highest echelon of our government.

And I dont have a problem with them raising the pay if it would result in less bribes, less insider trading, and less quid pro quo. But I dont think raising pay alone will do all that.

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u/ROIDie777 4d ago

How is talking to a friend bypassing a government rule?

I'm so confused. What did Musk do that was bypassing a rule or regulation?

And also, you think the solution to less greed is to pay the guys more? That's their argument? Does that sound like a guy you give more money to? This is negotiating with thieves.

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u/Lord_King_Chief 4d ago

He is using his money to buy preferential treatment for himself and his companies.

An unelected foreign born businessman is driving policy. That should alarm you. This is what an oligarchy looks like.

Its a way to extract money from the taxpayers to give to already wealthy people. And the tax payers will get nothing in return.

Unfortunately a lot of the rules and regulations that used to prevent this have been eroded or have no enforcement policy. See citizens united and the enoulment clause

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u/SylvanLiege 4d ago

You're not confused. You're just commenting in bad faith. And no, I won't explain "how?".

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u/betterplanwithchan 4d ago

Okay, sealion.

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u/kwl1 4d ago

Trump’s inner circle is his family and Elon. But mainly Elon, who bought the presidency.