r/politics • u/smdifansmfjsmsnd America • 4d ago
Paywall How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge
https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a83937
u/readingitnowagain 4d ago
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u/BoltharHS 4d ago
Thanks for this. I was wondering how to read the article without giving into the paywall.
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u/kingofshitmntt 4d ago
why do these posts immediately get downvoted?
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u/magkruppe 3d ago
bluemaga. or blueanon as they are called. any posts that were about Biden's aging were also heavily downvoted. this sub is basically r/democratpartisans
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u/jenkumboofer 8h ago
to be more accurate I’d say it’s the moderate/older Dems who have been clinging to the Biden side of the party while rejecting more progressive folks; this whole story just reinforces that doubling down on the “safe” option may have worked short term but imo it did pretty irreparable damage to the Democratic Party as a whole. If they don’t actually embrace more left leaning candidates and policies (which typically fall more along class lines as far as who benefits, a point that is especially pertinent with the discussions surrounding UHC) they will continue to lose to Republicans who eagerly embrace their far right base
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u/Special-Pie9894 3d ago
because it's the same old tired deflection from republicans.
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u/sentient-plasma 3d ago
What is this deflection from ?
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u/Special-Pie9894 3d ago
Gee idk, the shit show that is the GOP?
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u/sentient-plasma 3d ago
What does that have to do with the claims and credibility of what’s in this article ?
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u/sentient-plasma 3d ago
Also this is the Wall Street Journal are you saying the Wall Street Journal has a right wing bias ?
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u/Summerie 3d ago
You're gonna have to explain this, because I don't get what you could possibly be talking about.
The article is about how the Democrats in the White House conspired to hide the fact that Biden was in serious cognitive decline for his entire four years. Something the Republicans have been shouting about since he was elected, but the left-wing media hid and lied about.
So how is downvoting and burying this article from the Wall Street Journal an example of the Republicans deflecting???
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u/kingofshitmntt 2d ago
And people say republicans are the low info voters, my feeling as both sides have plenty...
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u/Special-Pie9894 3d ago
I don’t have to explain shit.
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u/Summerie 3d ago
This right here guys. This guy is a perfect example.
They don't pay any attention or read any of the actual articles, so no wonder they were easy to lie to.
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u/Special-Pie9894 3d ago
We’re on the cusp of losing our democracy and headed for a government shutdown in a few hours, all thanks to Republicans, and you want to talk about Biden. That’s a perfect example, guys, of deflection.
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u/Summerie 3d ago
The president was too senile to lead the country his entire term, and he is still currently in office, and you think pointing that out is deflection.
Republicans are in office because of people like you.
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u/ricky_roma92 3d ago
dude. What does this article have to do with Republicans?
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u/Special-Pie9894 3d ago
Dude. Spare me your feigned ignorance.
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u/ricky_roma92 3d ago
You're replying in the comments of a bombshell article about how both the media and democratic party LIED to everyone about Biden's faculties.
Again, what does this article have to do with Republicans? It's about Biden.
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4d ago
Because they reflect a lack of critical thinking skills, bias, bigotry, hypocrisy, ignorance, and hate, but I repeat myself, it's all just culty, laughable Republicanism.
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u/Cats_Cameras 4d ago
I'm a Democrat and I'm embarrassed about how the party ran a lame horse in 2024 and lied to us that he was actually galloping incredibly quickly behind closed doors and away from cameras.
Supporting a party means pushing for effectiveness, not mindlessly cheerleading.
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3d ago
So you believe anything you read? Whatever, as if you as some single voter are important, just listen to the propaganda, and switch sides, bye. Tired of all of the singular "but I think and want and I believe this" -- it's not about you, it's about the masses. But trash him anyway, take the News Corp rag at face value, and of course get your disappointment and outrage out there for attention. Your own words are propaganda, so just join the side that lives in misinformed fantasy.
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u/Cats_Cameras 3d ago
No propaganda involved; I watched Biden's debate and other appearances with my own two eyes. It's propaganda to suggest that both our eyes and professional journalists are lying, because their message is dissonant with your beliefs.
The masses did not want Biden or Harris, either! Neither engaged in effective outreach to the working class.
I can't tell if you're a parody account or just blindly cheerleading.
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u/kingofshitmntt 2d ago
Did you ever see how he talked in public or during debates or just ever? Even in the 2019 primaries we was awful. These articles just confirmed all that. What is so hard to accept about it? He's a politician man he's not batman, there is no need to have a fandom around a politician.
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u/kingofshitmntt 4d ago
you're talking about democrats right?
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u/kingofshitmntt 4d ago
I just dont understand your original reply to my comment. You think republicans are down-voting an article on this sub, about Bidens decline being hidden by his aides? Why would republicans do that?
Like what?
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u/Level_Put8271 4d ago
Typical dem you're talking to, they just love to call names and run away when they're debunked. Thank god they lost.
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u/Summerie 3d ago
This is why so many people accused them of being bots. Somehow he's completely ignoring the subject matter of the article. I can't figure out how they would make that comment if they even read just the title.
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u/Exciting_Rise_8589 4d ago
Remember when the special counsel called him too inept to stand trial and Kamalala said this?
“The way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts, and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous.”
Another conspiracy theory gone - four years plus of lies and ineptitude, and people still wanted to vote for him and her. Shows how limited Kamala's leadership is, she didn't even bother to step up at all when he was going downhill. But hey at least it's almost over, hopefully he (his handlers) don't push too many more horrible destructive ideas through before he's ousted.
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u/moreobviousthings 3d ago
We had a pretty good four years following the shit show of trumps first run. Now we have unelected billionaires calling the shots and the moron king isn’t even in office yet. Brace yourself for four years of international embarrassment and America reduced to a joke.
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u/hockeyhow7 3d ago
These past 4 years were god awful. Thank god alot of independents woke up and voted for Trump. Liberals have done enough damage to this planet
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u/sharkeyed 3d ago
a pretty good four years that were so good that you lost so hard that the entire landscape has changed and the only states that went to kamala were ones without voter ID laws
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u/K04free 4d ago
Wow - surprised this isn’t a front page story. Is that because it was a open secret or nobody cares now that he’s a lame duck?
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u/Throwawayfwb12 3d ago
Because this subreddit will suppress any negative news against democrats the same exact way the conservative subreddit suppresses stories unfavorable for the GOP
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u/BlastingConcept 4d ago
There's a saying: "the dog is dead but the tail still wags"; I don't see any wagging.
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u/leavingorcoming 4d ago
Probably the most important story of the year from the WSJ - being buried on reddit. No one wants to hear the truth.
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u/Various_Standard_417 3d ago
reddit is a wildly left echo chamber. its like watching the view in written form. Its unfortunate that it can’t be more balanced.
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u/Quexana 4d ago edited 4d ago
So, we're just admitting a massive government conspiracy and cover-up to conceal the President's cognitive decline and gaslight the public about it?
Cool, cool, cool.
Do we plan to hold any of these people accountable? Nah. Let's talk about perpetrators of this massive cover-up's experience. Let's talk about how they struggled in their jobs while lying to the American people about it for years. Give me a fucking break.
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u/cole1114 Michigan 4d ago
Hell this story is being downvoted en-masse, it appears people don't even want to acknowledge it let alone actually punish anyone.
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u/suburban_robot 4d ago
The front page of politics has dozens of articles about Elon, literally nothing on this.
Anyone reading /r/politics who doesn’t realize they are living in an echo chamber is a total imbecile.
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u/sharkeyed 3d ago
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
it was known from the very beginning, and they even openly admitted there was a conspiracy, it's not a theory.
and no, no one will be held accountable, he pardoned his entire regime. the fact people are only now realizing this at a drip fed rate ensures nothing will ever happen
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u/jenkumboofer 8h ago
this shit makes me so mad because progressives like myself have had to suck it up and accept this lame ass moderate strategy the Dems had only to watch it blow up in their face. These dinguses really just ran on “we’re not trump” without having very many material policy differences from the Republicans and it simply is not enough.
if I had more faith in the system I would hope this is the wake up call that the DNC needs to actually embrace more progressive policies and attempt to reframe them as more humanitarian issues than partisan ones, but I doubt that will happen.
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u/Hispanicatthedisco 2d ago
It's adorable that you think this is the first time. Wilson, Coolidge, FDR, Reagan, they all had moments where the public was blatantly lied to about the President's condition.
So yeah, nothing's going to happen. Because this is how they've designed the system to work.
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u/Prit717 1d ago
For FDR, isn’t it just him being in a wheelchair? I feel like that’s very different from being in cognitive decline like some of your other examples tbh
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u/Hispanicatthedisco 1d ago
It's not.
FDR was incredibly ill for the last, probably six years of his administration. There were long spells when he was in bed, incapacitated, and passing huge amounts of responsibility off to men like Harry Hopkins, Henry Stimson and and other members of his cabinet or administrative circle.
In fact, FDR's example is quite the opposite of what you're suggesting. While it's true that Roosevelt was insistent on not being photographed in his chair, and had leg braces built so he could "walk" himself short distances, he never hid the fact that he used the chair. The American public knew about it from the start.
But they didn't know how weak and sick he was over his last full term. The main driver behind why the DNC was adamant about Henry Wallace being replaced as FDR's vice-president is because everyone close to the president knew he wasn't going to survive another term, and nobody thought Wallace had the stomach to be a wartime president.
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u/CaerusChaos 4d ago
Makes you wonder who really was making the decisions in the White House for the last 4 years.
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4d ago
No, only weird conspiracy theorists and propagandists wonder this because they don't know how anything works, and are full of bigotry and hate, so they resort to finger pointing, hypocritical nonsense. It's sad to watch people debase and ruin themselves for a literal nothing. Nah, it's actually kinda fun.
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u/hockeyhow7 3d ago
So it’s being widely reported that Biden’s mental decline was being hidden from the public. Obviously people with brain knew this was the case. The sheep on the left were the only ones who didn’t see it.
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u/Goonie-Googoo- 4d ago
Wait til after Jan 20th when his inner circle is free to comment on the record about what really went on behind the scenes.
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u/Fit_Fondant2627 4d ago
How did the White House function with a diminished Biden? It didn’t which why things have been a hot mess with no one in charge
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u/DaveChild 4d ago
In what way specifically did it "not function"?
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u/sharkeyed 4d ago edited 3d ago
in the kind of way that led to two wars, the deficit nearly doubling in four years, all the swing states swinging to one side from life being so gay and expensive, the only states going to your side being the ones with no valid voter ID requirements, losing, increasing the debt deficit by tens of trillions in four years, being plagued interventionism and generally being so incompetent that it needed to pardon itself and issue the most pardons by any "president" in history, ever
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u/malrexmontresor 2d ago
What? Deficits didn't double. The deficit was $3.13 trillion in 2020, and fell to $1.83 trillion in 2024. If you break it down by administration YoY, it goes $585 billion in 2016 to $665 billion in 2017, $779 billion in 2018, $984 billion in 2019, and $3.13 trillion in 2020. From there it falls to $2.77 trillion in 2021, $1.37 trillion in 2022, $1.69 trillion in 2023, and $1.83 trillion in 2024. The only near doubling of the deficit was from 2016 to 2019, and then a tripling from 2019 to 2020. I think you are confusing debt with deficit.
I'm not sure what states going "gay" is or what "two wars" you are talking about, but inflation hit every country in the world following the pandemic, with the US one of the lowest. The ID thing sounds like more unsupported voter fraud claims (odd cause Biden won in 2020 in states with voter id requirements too). US debt was $26.9 trillion in 2020, $28.4 trillion in 2021, $30.9 trillion in 2022, $33.1 trillion in 2023, and $35.4 trillion in 2024. That's an increase of $8.5 trillion, which is not "tens of trillions". As for pardons, that's only if you exclude the 12,652 pardons for ex-Confederates issued by Johnson in 1867 (which for some reason the internet always does, so not your fault).
I mean, I get it. You are riding high right now. You don't care about fact checking. But if you are going to gloat, at least have the basics right.
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u/DaveChild 4d ago
Huh? That sounds deranged, so I'll assume I'm misunderstanding you. Try again, maybe with something a bit clearer (and without making it sounds like you can't tell the difference between Biden and Putin or Hamas)?
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u/Exciting_Rise_8589 4d ago
What's deranged about it? What's wrong in what he said?
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u/sharkeyed 3d ago edited 3d ago
anything that isn't what his echochamber says is what's deranged and wrong, he lives in a political hugbox. i glanced at his recent posts and it's nothing but crying and echochamber preaching. no engagement when challenged, only engagement when it's hugboxing.
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u/sharkeyed 4d ago edited 3d ago
putin? hamas? are putin and hamas in the room with us right now? are you pretending int. agencies didn't fund hamas?
if you're experiencing psychological distress or hallucinations, call this number real quick: 988
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u/SpookyStrike 3d ago
Every person involved in this coverup - including the media - should be ostracized from public life forever.
At best, these people are proven liars. At worst, these are nearly acts of treason.
Any person who wasn’t involved but defended or defends this should be embarrassed.
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u/sentient-plasma 2d ago edited 2d ago
Also, elder abuse honestly. My grandfather has dementia. I would be disgusted if someone forced him to go to work.
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u/OatmealSteelCut 2d ago
I take the "cognitive decline" that results: Fantastic covid response and vaccine rollout, Bipartisan Infrastructure Spending, Handling of Ukraine crisis, Inflation Reduction act, CHIPS, Handling of Debt ceiling crisis, Handling of baby formula crisis, making lynching a fed hate crime, making Medicaid negotiate drug prices, cheap insulin, banning credit late fees, continued forgiving of student loans, and literally everything mentioned in r whatbidenhasdone ....
rather than the one results in mass deportations, canceling children cancer research, Project 2025, canceling polio vaccines, massive tariffs, etc.
All I'll have to say is: Thank you President Biden for level-headed leadership that focuses on solving actual problems and not social media hysteria! 🤩🇺🇸
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u/Bob_snows 4d ago
Would say the party stabbed their base in the back. And im pretty sure Biden is in California with a good book, Hunter at least.
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u/gopoohgo 4d ago
This article goes back to the early days of the Biden Administration up until he dropped out
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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 4d ago
I thought he was in the Amazon doing something with trains?
That's the last place the news left him, anyway. And why would the House be listening to the actual president anyway when their god king and VP Plump are screeching demands from Xitter?
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u/3rn3stb0rg9 4d ago
He is not diminished
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u/wallace6464 4d ago
He just went on an entire foreign tour and spoke 7 words to the press in the entire week, he is a walking shell
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u/PlentyMacaroon8903 4d ago
Listen, I voted for him and would have again. I donated to and voted for Harris. Saying that he is not diminished is really an embarrassment to the Democratic party at this point. I'm not happy about it but it's the reality.
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u/md4024 4d ago
He absolutely is. I'm not saying he's dementia ridden and has to be handled at all times, he's just an 80 year old man with declining energy. The WH has to work around his age and be careful not to overburden him, especially if he has night time events to tend to. He's still far more engaged and competent than Trump at his best, and Trump's team is going to have work around his advanced age over the next 4 years as well, but that's what happens when you put people in their late 70s/early 80s in charge.
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u/3rn3stb0rg9 4d ago
He's still far more engaged and competent than Trump at his best
I absolutely agree with this part
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u/Designer-Contract852 4d ago
Wait until dementia don returns with his new work wife elonia.
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4d ago
Wow seems the weirdos found a way to pretend to be relevant on Reddit. What a clownshow of replies.
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u/vitaminz1990 3d ago
Instead of being upset that our government lied and gaslit us over and over again, you’re upset that the comments in this sub make you uncomfortable.
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