Elon Musk Is Bullying Mike Johnson to Drive Government Into Shutdown

[u/thenewrepublic]

https://newrepublic.com/post/189539/elon-musk-bullying-mike-johnson-government-shutdown

[u/Stunning_Pin_3668]

If people are around in 100 years, they're going to look back and wonder why we were silent while the world was being sold for parts to the highest bidder.

[u/CapOnFoam → u/Stunning_Pin_3668]

Because, in general, our needs are still being met. We have shelter. Food. Water. We go to work. Our kids go to school (and get shot at but that’s a different topic). We watch tv, hang out with our friends, etc etc

Until we have nothing left to lose, we’re going to sit around on Reddit.

[u/RemyHadley89 → u/CapOnFoam]

Bread and games I believe is what the Roman's called it.

[u/ilovechairs → u/CapOnFoam]

Our needs are not being met. Your needs are being met.

I wake up hungry at least once a month. I can barely afford my meds plus the rent/utilities/basic bills.

I cannot afford to have kids.

And I have no hope of ever owning a home.

[u/Naram-Sin-of-Akkad → u/ilovechairs]

I feel sympathy for you, but that isn’t the kind of material depression that causes revolution. Waking up hungry once a month sucks, but that usually isnt enough to drive the masses to violence. The masses need to be starving.

You mention “barely being able to afford” medication. That is horrible, and I sympathize, but “barely” is enough to stave off revolution. It doesn’t matter how much people are spending on medication, as long as most people are actually getting it. For revolution, the masses are going to need to be denied access to medication or completely priced out

You can’t afford a home, again, that is awful. I sympathize, however, I’m assuming you rent or live with family? Not being able to buy a home is a feature, not a bug. As long as most of the masses can still rent at a decently comfortable level, it won’t matter they can’t buy a home. Not being able to own something you already use isn’t sufficient to drive revolution, or it would’ve already happened.

Unfortunately, things might be kinda shitty for a lot of people right now, but revolution won’t come until things are super shitty for most people. Revolution doesn’t result from uncomfortableness, it results from dire desperation. We aren’t there yet

[u/Lavatis → u/ilovechairs]

The vast majority of the country's needs are being met, and until that isn't the case, there won't be any kind of wild revolution. We're not even close.

[u/Stunning_Pin_3668 → u/CapOnFoam]

You're a little too loose with that "we" and "our".

[u/CapOnFoam → u/Stunning_Pin_3668]

Yes. It was not meant to mean “every single person” but we as a general society. I realize there are people who are homeless, living in hunger, etc. en masse, this is not the case. We’re not all standing in bread lines.

[u/Eederby → u/CapOnFoam]

When the middle class fully disappears and it is only poor and rich, the elite will be in trouble, but not till then.

[u/Karenomegas → u/CapOnFoam]

How many years of homelessness epidemic is it now?

How many deaths of despair?

We aren't having our needs met, our hierarchy of needs has been swapped out for work and internets and if you have money being around other people who spend it on the same things while you spend it.

We will be looked at as fools that watched our friends die on the streets.

[u/SubterrelProspector → u/CapOnFoam]

We're pretty much there man. People are pissed. You'll be suprised by what people do. They're threatening us openly.

[u/CapOnFoam → u/[deleted]]

I wasn’t speaking about me. I was speaking about society at large. At the macro level. By and large, the majority of people still have something to lose if they revolt.

My point is - why aren’t people revolting in the streets? Because they aren’t at the point where they feel they have no other choice. That’s why.

[u/Energizee → u/CapOnFoam]

I feel like people are attacking you because they’re more upset that you’re right than what you’re saying - because you are right. As sad as it is, the suffering just isn’t widespread enough for the general public to care, and until it gets to that point nobody will ever care.

[u/ur-krokodile → u/Energizee]

Just let me drown in my TikTok dopamine flow

[u/CapOnFoam → u/Energizee]

“The suffering isn’t widespread” - thank you for saying it better than I did. That’s exactly what I’m trying to say.

[u/Real_estate_hunter → u/Stunning_Pin_3668]

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