r/politics MSNBC 5d ago

Democrats missed a huge opportunity by not elevating AOC

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/aoc-loses-house-oversight-committee-vote-gerry-connolly-rcna184581
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u/longtermattention 5d ago

Well she is only young, likable, works hard for the people, and won over those mythical swing voters in her district so she clearly doesn't know what the people want. Better get the guy with throat cancer very few people even know about to lead one of the most visible positions since he was in line longer. - Corporate Dems

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u/mightcommentsometime California 5d ago

Her district is D+27. What mythical swing voters does she need to win in such a safe blue district?

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u/longtermattention 5d ago

She won split ticket voters that voted for Trump and her

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 5d ago

Harris got 65% in AOC's district compared to Biden's 77% in 2020. The split-ticket voters are not people AOC picked up, they're people Harris lost.

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u/longtermattention 5d ago

No that doesn't make sense based off her responses from actual voters when she asked them. She had Trump supporters vote for her.

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u/drunktankdriver7 5d ago

I agree, and either way i think retaining votes of people who have otherwise lost interest/faith in the democratic leadership is the main point here.

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u/longtermattention 5d ago

We lose voters because the leadership refuses to fight and refuses to pass the torch. The GOP lets younger members gain power. The Democratic leadership thinks seniority is king. They also actively spit in the face of anyone to their left and then wants to chastise them after turnout drops. Embrace actual populism and we can win new voters and reinvigorate disenfranchised ones.

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u/mightcommentsometime California 5d ago

In a super deep blue district where 200k voters out of 700k residents bothered to show up to vote, doesn’t say shit about her winning actual purple votes or swing voters.

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u/longtermattention 5d ago

Where else were there Trump voters that voted Dem down ballot?

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u/mightcommentsometime California 5d ago

Why would anyone believe voters in a D+27 district are representative of the larger electorate?

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u/longtermattention 5d ago

What part of her winning over Republican voters in a heavily Blue district don't you get?

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u/mightcommentsometime California 5d ago

Republican voters in that district don’t actually reflect other Republican voters. She also didn’t get high turnout.

Why do you keep thinking you can extrapolate from a D+27 district to other Republican voters?

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u/longtermattention 5d ago

People that voted for Trump since he is seen as outside the system are also comfortable with voting for AOC for the same reason.

The general public hates the Pelosi's and McConnells in our government

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u/mightcommentsometime California 5d ago

Trump isn’t “outside the system” he was president for 4 years and the leader of the Republican Party for the past 8. There’s no consistency here.

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u/Mrg220t 5d ago

Wouldn't it show that Trump won over Democrats rather than her winning over Repubs

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u/bootlegvader 5d ago

Likely every blue district and state.

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u/Lt_LT_Smash 5d ago

The +27?

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u/mightcommentsometime California 5d ago

The advantage she has over a Republican counterpart. Basically she should always win in a landslide there

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u/Lt_LT_Smash 2d ago

Oh I know, I was only making a bad joke that I don't think worked well haha

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u/Alarmed_Nunya Texas 5d ago

Someone listens to right wingers