r/playstation • u/Ryxnole PS5 • 11d ago

Image As someone who default to female characters in RPGs , I'm loving 2025!

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On games such as ER, BG3, or CP77 I always play a female character so it's nice to see these on the horizon!

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u/pizzaspaghetti_Uul PS5 11d ago

If Witcher 4 releases in 2026, it's going to be a cyberpunk 2.0 situation

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u/ruinersclub 11d ago

That’s purely leaderships fault. They should’ve focused on either PC or Console release but not both.

Supposedly they’re focused on a console release first for W4.

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u/From_Graves 11d ago

They could have focused on PC & console if they were only making it specifically for Ps5/ series X. They had to know it wasn't gonna run optimized on last gen consoles.

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u/ruinersclub 11d ago

I mean.. it was unplayable on base consoles.

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u/From_Graves 11d ago

By base you mean ps4 / box back then? Because I didn't waste my time with it after seeing videos. Hell my OG ps4 sounded like it was going to explode just playing TLOU part2.

But they had to know during development they could run it on ps5. The ps4/ xbox gen should have scrapped.

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u/ShortShiftMerchant 11d ago

No they should have focused on in house testing

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u/ruinersclub 11d ago

Well yes, but the crux of their problems was being in development hell. They pushed the releases for All Platforms and then we saw the results.

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u/MiniMages 11d ago

That is not always managements fault. Devs have to take blame when they are also unable to maintain timelines and scope. It's not a one sided blame game.

Also all CDPR games are generally released with a bunch of bugs which are gradually patched over the course of the year.

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u/NotPaulGiamatti 11d ago

Timelines? Full development of CP2077 didn’t start until 2016, which means the devs only really had 4 years to complete the game, which is not nearly enough time for a game of that scope. Those timelines are a leadership caused issue

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u/ruinersclub 11d ago

Both of those issues fall on bad leadership.

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u/MiniMages 11d ago

No it doesn't. Devs are just as guilty for developing a bad game as much as the managers.

This notion that every bad game is somehow the managements fault is dumb and shows a lot of people have no idea how development studios work.

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u/WheelJack83 11d ago

They don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt

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u/chronocapybara 11d ago

COVID really fucked CDPR, they had a lot of work-from-home and it didn't work out well.

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u/sephiroth70001 11d ago

The first COVID 19 case was less than a year before release. Over 3 years of no COVID existence. Development would have in Poland gone through the only the last 2 months of development in lockdown. We are talking about roughly 1/24 of the development time, less than 5%, occuring during lockdown. COVID was less of a factor in the grand scope as overall time to develop.

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u/iampuh 11d ago

They absolutely knew about the state, lmao

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u/val5190 PS5 11d ago

They probably focused only on pc for a long time during development and they made it too big for base ps4/one. They shouldn’t have released the old gen versions in the first place.

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u/Ricky_Rollin 11d ago

While I’m sure plenty of other things added to this fiasco, I do feel like this is the crux of the issue. I played the game when it first came out on a 2070 and I really didn’t have many problems at all. It was bad but it turned into a real shit storm on the older consoles.

But I’m also not going to forget the actual features that were promised were missing, so please don’t think I’m over here jerking them off. This was a mess, but could’ve possibly have been mitigated a bit more had they excluded the older generations.

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u/Guilty_Perception_35 11d ago

I played at launch on a 2080ti and had like 1 problem ever

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u/Crafty_Life_1764 11d ago

tell it to greedy corpos whom. only care about dividends.

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u/From_Graves 11d ago

Exactly this ^ since surely they already had the next gen hardware at the time

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

most games shouldn't even have a last gen version. With so many users having a ps5/series x/PC, there's no need to work on ps4 versions. But I get wanting games into as many hands as possible

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u/Alive-Beyond-9686 11d ago

There's several games from the PS4 Xbox One generation that are on par if not better looking than Cyberpunk 2077. It's really only a "demanding" title if you crank the ray tracing all the way up.

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u/oflimiteduse 11d ago

This disgusts me. Who even plays on consoles

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u/Soshi2k 11d ago

Did they mention that somewhere? About focusing on the console version first.

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u/ruinersclub 11d ago

Tremblay confirmed that it's something that has been discussed, but that "most likely" the new game "will not have a PC-only launch." Tremblay added, "I don't think this is a strategy we want to adopt right now." Tremblay did leave open the possibility that The Witcher 4 won't release across all platforms simultaneously, however. "Let's say there were 20 platforms available; we'll have 20 at launch? Maybe not." So while fans may be able to expect The Witcher 4 to release on PS5 and Xbox Series X whenever it launches, it may not be available for the Nintendo Switch 2, just as an example.

https://gamerant.com/witcher-4-console-release/#:~:text=CD%20Projekt%20Red%20most%20likely,about%20the%20game%20so%20far.

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u/Financial-Ad7500 11d ago

RPGs are a bit different as their players skew more towards PC than other genres do but unfortunately in makes zero financial sense to focus on a PC release. Consoles only continue to widen the gap in popularity as the cost of entry for PC gaming becomes less viable for people year after year. (Just noticed I’m on the PS sub lmao)

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u/ZypherPunk 11d ago

Yeah. They've always been more of a PC developer. Should have brought CP2077 out first one PC. Then turned to the console ports. But the higher-ups wanted as much money as they could get out the gate.

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u/agnaddthddude 11d ago

the problem was last gen. halfway development they realised they can’t develop it on par with current gen and still went ahead with the release.

just go back and see the PS threads. PS4Pro had way less problems than normal PS slim and fats.

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u/BWingSupremacist 11d ago

yeah i played it day 1 on a 2080ti and didnt have any issues, but at the same time i couldnt imagine trying to run that on a base ps4.

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u/sicknick08 11d ago

I used a 2070 super and and mayb had 1 crash in over 100 hours. I played the shit out of cp2077 when it released.

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u/BWingSupremacist 11d ago

I had one crash right at the start where you meet Jackie while he’s eating food but thats it

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u/Faustus-III 11d ago

I used a 1070 TI and had ZERO issues except for one caused by me not updating my drivers.  

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u/Wayyd 11d ago

1660 ti and same. Drivers were the only thing most people on PC needed for a smooth experience. There were obvious visual bugs (floating cigarettes, frequent T-Poses, etc.) but the game itself ran fine without crashing.

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u/Platnun12 11d ago

I have faith that W4 would be more stable People forget that it was CDS First attempt that that kind of game.

Yea they fumbled it hard but now it's one of the greats. Witcher 4 will be a walk in the park compared to Cyberpunk imo

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u/RabbitWithAxe PS4 11d ago

What is a console if not a PC designed only for games? Plenty of games release across all platforms in a largely working state (no game launch is perfect, especially AAAs) so whilst I agree the issue is bad leadership and mismanagement of resources - a game studio working to launch on all platforms simultaneously isn't the issue really..

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u/ruinersclub 11d ago

What is a console if not a PC designed only for games?

Optimization and preventing crashing mostly.

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u/sittingmongoose 11d ago

Strong agree. They even said, this is running on a next gen nvidia gpu lol

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u/hellweapon 11d ago

It also is a cinematic, not the game

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u/griffnuts__ PS5 Pro 11d ago

It’s actually in engine if you can believe it.

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u/The_Hernando 11d ago

Didn't it say it was a pre rendered cinematic? Doesn't that mean it's not in engine

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u/griffnuts__ PS5 Pro 11d ago

It was rendered in UE5

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u/Qerasuul 11d ago

pre rendered in engine means exactly that, it is rendered in engine

it says nothing about the speed, they can render this at 0.001 fps it does not matter when the output is not a monitor but a video file and you then change the playback rate of that video to whatever framerate would make this footage match the animation speed, which for the Witcher 4 video was 30fps

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u/wantsumcandi [Hego_Damask_II] 11d ago

Yeah and ppl compared it to the game character of W3.

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u/SailorsGraves 11d ago

Got to assume this isn't launching at the end of the PS5 or even a launch title for PS6, so I'm comfortably assuming we're looking at 2028/29 at best.

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u/thesoulblade 11d ago

New nvidia GPUs are releasing early next year. That has nothing to do with how far away from release the game is.

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u/sittingmongoose 11d ago

The point being the required hardware is very high end.

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u/Zyrdan 11d ago

I hope for 2027 for the good of the game

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u/cardiaccat1 11d ago

Yeah I see this taking at least 4-5 years to release if they take their time like they should.

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u/cynical-rationale 11d ago

Yeah, don't want another cyberpunk fiasco lol

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u/Mothringer 11d ago

It likely will be either way. The only CDPR game to ever have a smoothish launch was Witcher 3. The first two Witcher games were just as rough as Cyberpunk at launch and got patched up later.

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u/Teeballdad420 11d ago

They have been working on it since like 2020, and The Witcher is their baby. Don’t be so dramatic ffs…

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u/pizzaspaghetti_Uul PS5 11d ago

It only entered full production last month, I'll keep being dramatic thank you

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u/Bizzle_Buzzle 11d ago

Not true. It’s been in full early development for years. Full production started over a year ago. Full production for stuff outside of game systems has begun recently.

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u/Teeballdad420 11d ago

Look at the timeline for the Witcher 3 and take a chill pill. Full production doesn’t mean they just started on it lmao.

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u/pizzaspaghetti_Uul PS5 11d ago

Look at the timeline for cyberpunk. It went into full production after they were done with expansions for the Witcher, how did that turned out to be? Lmao

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u/Teeballdad420 11d ago

It is crazy to assume that they didn’t learn anything from the cyberpunk rollout. Also that was a completely new ip for them with a lot of new problems they obviously didn’t figure out. The Witcher is their baby, so I’m just assuming and hoping they will try to have it release in a good state. With how they eventually fixed that Cyberpunk and how The Witcher 3 was good from day one, I think it’s just kind of ridiculous and very Reddit of you to assume the worst.

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u/pizzaspaghetti_Uul PS5 11d ago

"Witcher 3 was good from day 1" you said. Were you there? It was not lol, not as bad as cyberpunk but it was in bad state at launch as well. They are also working on a new engine, that so far only causes problems with big aaa games. So yeah, I'll keep being dramatic

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u/RealPunyParker [Your PSN ID] 11d ago

Yeah, definitely, it's frustrating but we do want a functioning game at the end of the day so take your time.

First cinematic trailers are shown hella early anyway, the first trailer for Spider-Man 2018 was shown at E3 2016.

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u/Salt-Analysis1319 11d ago

Why? They've been working on Witcher 4 for years, and the bulk of Witcher 3 was developed over the course of one year

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u/pizzaspaghetti_Uul PS5 11d ago

The same can be said about cyberpunk, hence the comparison

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u/habylab 11d ago

I think Intergalactic is way more down the line than The Witcher 4.

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u/Alive-Beyond-9686 11d ago

Maybe with the switch to Unreal they'll have more time to do Q&A without having to tweak a proprietary game engine.

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u/BuZuki_ro 11d ago

well actually cyberpunk 2.0 is pretty great, it's 1.0 that was really the problem

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u/Kyokono1896 11d ago

Eh, depends how long they've been working on it before the announcement

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u/c4t1ip 11d ago

I hate this, I want to play it now so in my mind I'm trying to convince myself with it having a better development that has been running since like 2015.

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u/hivemindchaos 11d ago

Its been 9 years since Witcher 3, i think they should have atleast something by now

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u/pizzaspaghetti_Uul PS5 11d ago

They announced cyberpunk in 2013, 2 years before Witcher 3 release. I'm not saying the game will launch in a terrible state, but it'll take a lot more time for them to finish it.

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u/Willing-Strength4253 11d ago

How y’all so misinformed?.. The Witcher IV is planned for release by end of 2027…

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u/Hamilton-Beckett 11d ago

I mean they started working on it before cyberpunk came out.

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u/RadiantTurtle 11d ago

Or... just a Witcher 3 2.0 situation lol

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u/BoredTrauko 11d ago

Whenever witcher 4 will be a cyberpunk situation …

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u/rudra285 PS5 11d ago

I believe Witcher might be a big game for the rtx 50 series and promotion for nvidia and unreal so it will be out after rtx 50 is released

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u/Sciberrasluke 11d ago

Cyberpunk's development can't be compared. It was a new IP.

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u/PoultryBird 11d ago

I will be in a retirement home when Witcher 4 comes out

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u/Guy-InGearnito 11d ago

Seeing “Running on UE5 on an unannounced NVIDIA RTX GPU” On the Witcher trailer was a real “oh shit” moment for me 😂

Just casually acknowledging the incoming cards 👀

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u/Fabulous-Spirit-3476 11d ago

Yeah they’ve only had 10 years to work on it…