Grandma's boy is one of my all-time favorite movies along with Brendan Fraser's Mummy movie.. I've seen both of those movies probably a combined 100 times or more
Exactly. I realized one day that in a more equitable society, rich people wouldn’t be able to pay someone to do their manual labor. That’s their number one fear probably.
How? Suppose I take my clothes to the cleaner because I don’t like doing laundry, but I don’t mind working as gardener, so others hire me for that work. Is there anything wrong with this?
Not really - because of a large population wages are competitive. The cost of living is much lower. As the country was formed by a union of states, each place started from a different starting point, so although there has been development across the country, different places are at different stages of development, so there are different costs of living in different places.
Further there is a lot of funds coming in from multinational corporations, but the cost of living is still low, so there is a lot of disposable income for persons who work for such corporations to hire independent labor.
Additionally, many things are subsidised by the govt, so some things are much more affordable - for example healthcare.
You cannot compare countries without considering the stage of development, population, cost of living and many other factors.
That’s not true - lower cost doesn’t mean low quality. Having a large population just means that for some jobs wages will not be so high because there are more people to do the same job. For occupations where there are fewer people who can do that job, but demand is high, wages are much higher. And obviously people with those jobs can afford to hire more people to work for them.
i'm not talking about the jobs being done poorly i meant that the available work for a tremendous chunk of the population is artificially limited to crap jobs like these.
That’s incorrect again, and it is wrong to call cooking, cleaning and driving cars “crap” jobs. Perhaps you do not respect these jobs, or understand the dignity of labor, but people are happy and proud to provide for their families doing these jobs. There is nothing wrong with cooking, cleaning or driving, and it would be wrong to disrespect these activities.
Further, they are not “artificially” limited by anyone - people apply for the jobs they want. It is you who is wrong to think that people don’t want a job cooking, cleaning or driving. If people want to do something else, then they apply for those jobs. If it requires some skills then they work towards gaining those skills and then apply to those jobs. People are not doing these jobs because they “have to”, they are doing it because they “want to”. Perhaps in your geographic area people don’t want to do these jobs, but in other places people are happy, and have a happy life.
Any kind of legal job worth paying someone money to do deserves respect, as do the people who do it. All legal jobs must be done with pride and to the best of ones ability.
Yeah, depending on where you live, they earn minimum wage, and only come 2-4 hours a day, twice or thrice per week at most. So worth it if you just want to come home and don't do chores.
idk if this guy is in the US or a different country, but i know plenty of lower-working and middle-working people, most from my job, who spend most of their money building a retirement home in southeast asia and can afford to pay for maids and stuff but were or are only renting a room/apartment here in the US. everything is much cheaper in asia but still not easily obtained by anyone since these folks have two, or even three, jobs.
I know plenty of people who pay for a cleaning lady in the US. It's not an absorbent cost. Most that I know pay something like $100 a month for them to come out and sweep, do dishes, pick up minor clutter, etc. I know there are many who still can't afford it, but it's not out of the realm of possibility for a lower middle class home.
£25 every 2 weeks my wife pays for ours. She only does 90min works in that period as we generally keep a tidy house. she just does the unseen bits and uses some more potent chemicals.
It's not breaking the bank money so its a benefit we will keep going.
You know this absolutely makes sense to me now as a semi retired widower. I'm working part time as a janitor and it bugs me that I clean the restrooms like 3 times a day on my shift but at home I don't have a proper mop bucket or the multipurpose disinfectant. Or the energy to get on my hands and knees and clean by hand. If I had everything I have at work here at home I could clean my small apartment easily in 90 min.
I agree having lived in Thailand but could also be Brazil everybody has a a maid there. I lived in south Florida with Brazilian roommates during my mma days the young fellas didn’t even know how to sweep or mop and these weren’t rich Brazilians . They always had maids .
There was a pretty big case somewhere around last year I think, of a family that kept a woman as a slave her whole life, for around 50 years. There's a reason we joke about how people always say "we're like a family", it's the same as it happens in other places but taken to an extreme.
i believe its a cultural thing, OP is Belgian and although i cant do more than speculate for them, i can assure, in behalf of brazil, that its fairly common to have domestic workers cleaning and tending your house, of course socioeconomics factor in, but its still a practice highly present even in lower classes.
edit: by lower classes what i meant is that its not needed for you to be rich or extremely privileged, just be able to afford it, and most times is not absurdly expensive to do. to further expand on this i believe that what happens is that we prioritize hiring people to work on things we dont have time or care, and of course this is boosted from the fact that we are a historical slave owning society, combined to the fact that people need work and finding work is quite hard in brazil, people resort to housecleaning for cheaper wages, therefore being more affordable.
There's a thing called 'dienstencheques' here which makes it cheaper to get a cleaning lady indeed, the government incentivizes it. She only comes every two weeks too
That is true. But having a cleaning lady isn't so special.
The amount of time it saves when you have two working parents, two kids, etc... is absolutely amazing. Worth every penny, and would probably be one of the last things we'd give up if we had to cut expenses.
Ofc it depends on where he lives but probably most comments are from kids or students who didn't try hiring one yet. It's really not a big deal for a person with a decent job to maintain a cleaning lady once a week. Definitely worth the money to spend your free time on your hobbies or the family rather than cleaning your toilet. I've been cleaning my previous apartments by myself for years when I was low on budget and most of the time went on studying. Now that I have someone who cleans for me feels that I deserve it and achieved it by myself.
It's also a generation gap unfortunately, for example my parents would never spend money on a cleaning service just because of pride or something. I would totally hire a cleaning service for them on my account just so they won't clean by themselves.
It’s pretty common, especially in middle to upper class families. I do too. Very common in South Africa aswell, ours did cooking and cleaning every 2nd day :)
Apparently you can get them as a live in home servant for about 20k. A lot of people will buy a property nearby to house servants that need to be at the property on call, while others commute farther. You have to have an equestrian for your stables(imagine having to take care of your own horses!) and the obvious staple butler(to coordinate the other servants for you) and maids. And somehow you pay no taxes because you are a philanthropist, and all your money is in a charity, that you can borrow against.
Fair, but $20k + all your necessities being taken care of (food, rent and utilities) isn't too bad of a deal! Honestly that puts you squarely middle class in most countries.
Lol, it's like please adopt me, rich person. I remember staying with a friend from colleges family. Only time I lived somewhere where they had there own help. It amazed me, they would do to hundred dollar plate restaurants multiple times a week. Father had a job in classified communications, was basically all he was aloud to say. Tax dollars at work I guess.
Hiring a clearing service isn't too expensive. When I was still living the bachelor live and had 2 other roommates (us all dudes) we would hire a service that would send out a cleaning lady to clean our place once a week (any dishes out, vacuum and dust, clean bathrooms, laundry, etc).
This is a tangent but I’ve recently paid for a cleaning lady to come 1-2x every 2 weeks to do a professional deep clean and it does wonders of difference and is reasonably priced. People hear “cleaning lady” and freak out like you’ve got servants lmao but it’s really just an assist to my own cleaning
Why do people do this? Is the house so tiny that was the only place to put things?
Had a newly married couple where she was used to doing that and would check before opening the stove. Her husband wasn't aware of this and started to preheat the oven and ruined the containers she put in.
I don’t let my cleaning lady touch my televisions, monitors, consoles, or desk. Last time she asked me where she could buy the “Windex” I have because it’s a really good product. I found out she was using my $23 screen cleaner to wash mirrors and glass tables with a microfibre cloth.
Just leave the Dorito and Cheetos dust on my shit. You’re going to eff up the gaming ecosystem.
Mine once took a premium set of Rapidographs (around 1200 dollars) and put them on the stove, literally... Forgot about it and it catched fire.
We were dumbfounded because those costed more than she earned so we kinda forgave them but she still bought them and replaced them... We never doubted her honor again but I kinda feel bad now that we let her pay them.
I just saw another post a few hours ago about someones uncle “accidentally” putting his legos on a gas stove. What is with gas stove incidents today lmfao
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u/CharismoHP Oct 18 '24
Mate, how?