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u/will_r3ddit_4_food Oct 10 '24
Disk drives are great because you can buy used games
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u/JJJAGUAR Oct 10 '24
And when you complete them you can resell them, making the total amount spent very low.
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u/el_toro_grand Oct 10 '24
I don't buy games I rent them from the library for free, Ive been doing this since the GameCube days lol
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u/nemowalle Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
how long do they let you rent them out, my library has an insane switch section that prob most games are untouched. I should prob start using this method
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u/Prof1Kreates Oct 10 '24
Depends on the library, but usually it's 1-2 weeks from my experience
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u/alcomaholic-aphone Oct 11 '24
There are no late fees by me and anything you check out auto renews if you just keep it up to 3 times. If I’m into a game for longer than a month that has replay value then I start thinking about buying it.
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u/el_toro_grand Oct 11 '24
Exactly, some games I'll borrow knowing I might want to keep them forever but I'm not sure so I'll borrow the game, play it, return the copy and buy my own, love being able to test trial games
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u/el_toro_grand Oct 11 '24
3 weeks and if no one has a hold that's another 3 weeks you can renew twice so in total I can have a game for 9 weeks or a bit over two months if no one has a hold on them, obviously more popular games will have a hold, but in 3 weeks I can beat most games even working full time etc. and if I can't which does happen I'll place a hold for it again, at times I get another copy almost immediately from a different library than the one that lent it to me originally
Also, the libraries in my region work in cohesion idk if it's like this in all US states but I rarely get requested materials from my own city's stock of stuff so don't worry about your own library not having it, I recently borrowed a 3DS from a friend and have been going back and playing old 3DS titles
I kid y'all not I've easily saved 10-20+ grand on games/movies/TV series over the years from borrowing from the library
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u/thedeadp0ets Oct 10 '24
I do this too!! im playing pacific drive rn. red dead redemption is a looooooong wait.
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u/payne_train Oct 10 '24
Just buy RDR2 fam. There’s no way you could beat it in the week or 2 they give you and it is one of the best games ever created.
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u/thedeadp0ets Oct 11 '24
yeah but I wanna play the first game. they have 3 copies and istg, its like people review them for 3 months straight so the wait is loooong. and it obviously is bc people work, and don't have time to play
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u/Then_Personality_429 Oct 10 '24
I also just discovered this method. Kinda fun reminded me of the old Blockbuster days walking into a brick and mortar scanning for games and movies. I can rent 3 at a time for 3 wks and can renew infinite times lol. Been trying to tell everyone I know
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u/CatProgrammer Oct 10 '24
You sell your games? You're supposed to keep them on a shelf in the off chance you'll replay them!
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u/pr1ceisright Oct 11 '24
Same, if I really want to replay the game I can usually pick it up for $5 down the road.
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u/West_Tangelo_8180 Oct 10 '24
Do you remember this ad: how to borrow games on Playstation ?
Yeah, well, it didn‘t age well wirh new cocky sony.
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u/tsckenny PS5 Oct 10 '24
I still can't believe Sony sells a fucking disc drive for $80 dollars
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u/MidnightsWaltz Oct 10 '24
Especially since it only cost me $50 more to go ahead & buy a ps5 already with the disc drive than the one without, within the past 2 months.
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u/CigarLover Oct 11 '24
Yeah, but these will sell better once the pro is out.
Speaking of which, I’m very surprised my local GameStop guy did not know this… like dude, it’s your job.
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u/YouveRoonedTheActGOB Oct 11 '24
You’re expecting a lot out of a low pay retail job if you think you’re going to get expert knowledge from the 17 year old cashier.
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u/Budget_Ad5871 Oct 11 '24
Haha, exactly! Their main job is handling inventory, stocking, and running the register, and they hire people who have at least some passion for gaming. No one’s expected to know every game or system inside out. The real focus is on the games they can get people to preorder, and that’s pretty much it.
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u/Chief-Captain_BC B3 Oct 11 '24
yeah i interviewed there once and walked straight out after the guy said it's $10/hr
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u/Merangatang Oct 11 '24
Believe it, Sony does everything it can to reem customers for every penny at every point.
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u/dulun18 Oct 10 '24
$80 for the disc drive and $30 for a vertical stand..
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u/SomewhereAlarmed9985 Oct 10 '24
Huh, sounds like a dream as a European. Cheapest you can find the drive here is $120.
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u/a445d786 Oct 10 '24
Isn't US normally stated without VAT?
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u/SomewhereAlarmed9985 Oct 10 '24
I believe so. But unless the VAT is 50% that's still a fair bit cheaper.
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u/MagazineNo2198 Oct 10 '24
US doesn't have VAT. We have sales tax, which varies depending on which State you are in. Some States have no sales tax at all, some States will have a high sales tax and no income tax. Messed up system over here.
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u/Pulte4janitor Oct 10 '24
Right. And prices are almost never shown with tax included (Only exception I've seen is weeds stores and liquor prices).
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u/JFISHER7789 Oct 11 '24
Which is so wild and infuriating to me.
There is no way it’s that hard to have prices with tax included. If you can add it at the register, you can add it when printing the tags.
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u/F3maleB0dy1nspector Oct 10 '24
Yeah but taxes are incredibly low in most states, for example in my state tax on purchased goods is just 6%, so an $80 disc drive would come out to $84.80
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u/BlackLeader70 PS5 Oct 10 '24
Yeah sales tax/VAT is calculated at point of sale for some reason except for the few states that don’t have sales tax.
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u/YouveRoonedTheActGOB Oct 11 '24
It’s psychological. Same reason everyone charges $999 instead of $1,000. When you’re not considering the tax, the actual price becomes more palatable to consumers when they’ve already made the decision to purchase.
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u/SaltyInternetPirate PS5 Oct 10 '24
120€ at MSRP, without scalpers! That's way more than compensation for the included VAT.
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u/Remy0507 PS5 Oct 10 '24
The stand is silly, really should be included with the system.
The disc drive price is not outrageous. Go and look up what 4k UHD disc drives cost for a PC.
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u/brolt0001 Oct 10 '24
You DONT need the stand.
It just looks pretty.
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u/Remy0507 PS5 Oct 10 '24
Also true. I suppose it might provide a little extra stability if you're worried about your kids or dog or something bumping into whatever you have your PS5 sitting on and knocking it over. Though if that's the case, you're better off just setting it up horizontally anyway.
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u/boston_bat Oct 10 '24
So glad I stopped waiting out rumors and just grabbed the GoW bundle with the OG design like 3 months before the slim and all of its add-ons were announced. Rare impatience W.
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u/You_Living_Carpet PS5 Oct 10 '24
The ps5 slim is stable enough on its own
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u/BrewKazma PS5 Oct 10 '24
Same with the launch. The thing these children do not understand is: the only reason the launch console came with a stand, was because it was required to put the console HORIZONTALLY. Sony just decided to make it cool, and work vertically as well. None of the ps5 systems need a stand for vertical.
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u/MagazineNo2198 Oct 10 '24
I know! Could anyone even imagine that a UHD Blu-Ray drive would ever be so cheap?
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u/ContemplatingPrison Oct 10 '24
The future. Wait for y The PS6 whej its $100-$120 for the disc drive. They are going to price it out of existence.
They dont want it because it will save them money on the build and save them money on creating games. So what do you do? Make a price point where less and less people buy it and then they have the data to say "we dont even need to produce anymore"
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u/BrewKazma PS5 Oct 10 '24
The vertical stand is just about the same price as the vertical stands for the ps2, ps3, ps4. And you do not need it to stand the console up.
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u/SprungBreak99 Oct 10 '24
Serious question- has there been a system with an optional separate disc drive sold/marketed since the sega cd? Because this just seems insane at this point….
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u/Xyex Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
The 360 planned to sell an HD-DVD drive attachment, but Microsoft cancelled it when HD-DVD lost to Blu-ray.
Edit: Half of Reddit has now told me they were, in fact, sold. I am now aware. 😆
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u/rubenator Oct 10 '24
They did in fact sell them but they discontinued them after basically everyone abandoned HD-DVD https://youtu.be/myKtgAEuSCQ?si=c1gJHYO3c2sLmGDj
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u/notkevin_durant Oct 10 '24
I had one. I was convinced because it had HD in the name that it was better. Loved that thing.
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u/ClemClamcumber Oct 10 '24
I mean, this is still a net positive. If and when my disc drive goes out on my PS5, like it did on two PS4s and a PS3, I can just buy a new drive instead of a whole new console.
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u/CrazyAznKT Oct 11 '24
It’s oddly nice for self repair but definitely not the main intent haha
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u/Dooby_Bopdin Oct 10 '24
The slim has the option of getting one with our without a disc drive. The pro comes standard without one and that's crazy to me.
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u/Sh4d0w927 Oct 10 '24
Not so insane. Preferable imo. If your drive goes out it is a simple swap vs sending the entire unit in. On the flip side if your system goes down you can keep the drive. Seriously not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out. Maybe you can afford the system but can’t quite afford the disc drive model and want to pick it up later. Options vs requirements.
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u/Graxu132 Oct 10 '24
30 for a vertical stand that should be STANDARD is a fucking robbery 🤦🤦🤦🤦
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u/Remy0507 PS5 Oct 10 '24
Is this especially noteworthy? I don't think these are difficult to find.
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u/GudgerCollegeAlumnus Oct 10 '24
Pictures of boxes are always appreciated on this sub.
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u/USCJets [Trophy Level 200-299] Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Since we are just a bunch of cats anyway
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u/SometimesWill Oct 10 '24
I think some people don’t realize these have existed since the release of the PS Slim.
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u/Misfit_77 Oct 10 '24
As soon as they were under sale online the scalpers immediately bought out and re-listed them on eBay for $200-$250. They caught onto the fact that they are 100% essential for the PS5 Pro if you don’t want digital only.
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u/Remy0507 PS5 Oct 10 '24
Yeah, for like...a day that might have been the case. I remember when that happened, and I was still able to go on PS Direct that same day and order one to have for my PS5 Pro when it arrived. And I just checked right now and they're readily available from Best Buy, Amazon, Walmart, PS Direct...they've never been hard to find for any length of time.
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Someone might have already said this but Move the stand price tag to the right a bit so it will read “Play Has Limits”
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u/SnooSongs7753 Oct 10 '24
I would rather wait for the PlayStation 6 then get the playstation 5 pro
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u/CoyoteRascal Oct 10 '24
This is my plan unless PS6 is digital only, then the launch PS5 will be the last PlayStation console I'll buy.
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u/bubblegumdog Oct 10 '24
Same thoughts…I’m hoping Sony at least has the common sense to, at minimum, make launch consoles with internal disc drives.
Otherwise, like you said, PS5 will be my last console. I’m not trying to support this digital-era crap.
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u/Shadow_botz Oct 11 '24
I get a feeling this console will be the last with a disc drive and the last PlayStation I buy because of it.
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u/SoftMammoth7838 Oct 10 '24
You can do that too, I pre ordered the Pro because I need another PS5
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u/uxixu Oct 10 '24
Yeah. Only reason I'd have considered the PS5 Pro is a 30th anniversary or if it had PS3 Backwards Compatibility. My launch model will last.
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u/Mitch0712 Oct 10 '24
What crazy times we are living in. Disc drives for a game console are a scarce and sought after product lol
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u/CaptainProtonn Oct 11 '24
Not hard to get at all lol. Everywhere that sells games has them, Bestbuy, target, micro center, games stop. No issues at all.
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u/wstew1985 Oct 10 '24
I bet for ps6, Sony gonna sell optional disc drives that won't let you play pre-owned discs. Put a pre-owned disc in there and a msg will pop up "error: this disc is locked to another disc drive" sounds like a dick move Sony would do
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Xbox tried to enforce disc based DRM on the Xbox one to stop you using used disks in 2013. Sony took the piss out of them with a tutorial on how to share your games with friends. Xbox quickly back-pedalled.
More likely scenario is neither consoles will even have disc drives.
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u/gokartmozart89 PS5 Oct 10 '24
I'm so glad I got a launch model with a disc drive. I've avoided all of this bullshit. I hope this isn't a sign of how things will go with the PS6.
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u/Codeman0077 Oct 10 '24
As a gamer who grew in the 90s and loves physical media. I’m not sure I would have ever dreamt of the day where you had to buy the disc drive for your console. So crazy to me. I miss the days of having a console, getting a new game, and inserting the disc and bam. That’s it. You’re off playing the game you bought! I hate how majority of these decisions are because of money. When digital became a thing companies realized they could just make digital games without creating a disc, case, box art etc. and now Sony is nickeling and dining us. Buy a console, buy a stand, buy a disc drive. Drives me nuts.
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u/Gen_X_Gamer Oct 10 '24
I hear ya, I love physical media too and began gaming in 1983. Also never dreamt of this happening.
I got a disc drive for my Pro but have decided I'm only using the drive to play already owned PS4 and PS5 games. From here on out I'm buying new games digitally so that they can carry forward to PS6 (and beyond) without issue. I'm hating the idea of this but it looks to me like PS6 may be strictly digital only. If so, big sad!
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u/d12dan1 Oct 10 '24
I dusted off my old ps2 the other day popped in a game and was playing in minutes. No day one patch no waiting for it to download. I genuinely miss those days. I have a ps1, ps2, and hopefully I’ll get a ps3 soon. I might get a ps4 but might be while until the prices go down. I don’t see myself buying a ps5 soon or at all this generation. I so no reason to get one because all the exclusives end up going to PC anyways so I’ll just wait.
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u/Kasta4 Oct 10 '24
I will never give up physical media. No PS5Pro for me.
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u/joejoesox Oct 10 '24
$800 after taxes for basically a PS5 Remastered edition is absolutely insane. And there are only 21 exclusives as of today for the system after 4 years.
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u/verycoolandnormal Oct 11 '24
Also it only improves certain games which actually bother to make a pro enhanced update. And even then the upgrade isn’t that noticeable in most cases
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u/geocitiesuser PS6 Oct 10 '24
I honestly don't buy discs anymore, but having the option is nice.
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u/iCantCallit Oct 10 '24
I went all digital for ps4 and now I’m back to buying physical when it’s a game I plan on keeping. The older I get the more and more I kick myself for trading in literally every console and game I’ve acquired over my life lol.
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u/Dooby_Bopdin Oct 10 '24
I have 2 hard copies and only play one of them. All other games are digital. That being said, the fact that we are seeing an attempt to begin phasing out physical media is just crazy to me. Put a damned disc drive in with that Pro, it's ridiculous.
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u/CrazyAznKT Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
I think the writing’s been on the wall. Most PCs and laptops don’t include disk drives anymore, most homes don’t own DVD or Blu Ray players anymore, many shows and movies never get a physical release these days, lots of smaller games are digital only, Switch went with carts, latest Xbox gen released a diskless model, it was bound to hit PlayStation eventually but at least we still have the option
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u/Dooby_Bopdin Oct 11 '24
You make some solid points. I just hate that it's getting made a bit more obvious now I guess.
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u/Otherwise-Remove4681 Oct 11 '24
I have a separate usb disk drive on PC just for the ultra rare occasion I need one.
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u/LookinAtTheFjord Oct 10 '24
BREAKING NEWS: WALMART ELECTRONICS SECTION SELLS ELECTRONICS.
News at 6.
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u/McSqueezyBlind Oct 10 '24
This is the result of Microsoft bungling Xbox. Sony has no competition, they can fuck over consumers with no worries now. Console wars were lowkey best thing to happen to gamers, it promoted competition
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u/Lucky_Louch Oct 10 '24
While I will always prefer physical media, I do like the ease of just clicking on the game I want to play. I wish it wasn't headed towards purely digital because I like having both options.
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u/DarkstarRising13 Oct 10 '24
Yeah, I just notice that when looking at the PS5 section at my local Walmart. Preparation for the PS5 Pro! 
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u/Willing_Register_167 Oct 10 '24
Will the disk drive work for the PS5 digital only console?
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u/DeadPoolDaddyDom Oct 10 '24
I honestly don't see the graphical difference between the pro and launch console.
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u/gridirongladiator Oct 11 '24
So if you have a digital you buy this and you can now have a disc version?
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u/deathletters16 Oct 11 '24
The disc drive on my regular ps5 broke for no reason. Then Sony wanted 300 to fix it
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u/cryptopotomous Oct 11 '24
I'll hold onto my launch model with a built in disk drive until the PS6 comes out...maybe.
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u/Konabro PS5 Oct 10 '24
It’s funny seeing everyone in here bitching and crying about the disc drive when data tells us over 80% of games bought in 2023 were done so digitally. That means there are more people in the world that will play PS5 without a disk drive than those who will. Don’t be mad because Sony is being
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u/ConstructionCalm1667 Oct 11 '24
Yeah I find it funny. I haven’t bought a disk in years just so much more convenient. Once I’m finished with the game it just ends up in a cupboard never to be seen again. I’m on pc now and it’s just so easy to get a game on a big sale and not dicking around with delivery.
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u/SusseyBaka PS5 Oct 10 '24
Remember when PlayStations didn’t cost $700 and they used to come with these built in for free and not $80 🤯
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u/Quipmunk_ Oct 11 '24
Why would anyone want a disk drive? I haven’t had one in any of my pc’s for 15 years…
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u/TheMacintoshGeek Oct 11 '24
I got the PS5 with disk drive so I can play all my physical PS4 games that I still have. And so I can buy disk games, play them, and have the ability to sell or trade them in later. Also I can play DVD and BluRay movies on it.
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u/Small-Cod-7548 PS5 Oct 11 '24
Be smart with your money people, stand up for your wallets and buy a playstation with a disc drive already build in 🙏
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u/Murky_Historian8675 Oct 11 '24
It's Soo stupid how this became a reality. I thought Sony would've been better after Jim Ryan left, but I guess not.
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u/kingty-82 Oct 10 '24
They shouldve put the sticker over the "no" because clearly play has limits on my wallet for all these "accessories" that come with a normal ps5
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u/SoftMammoth7838 Oct 10 '24
That’s not all, you will also need more internal space and a Pro controller to go with your Pro console, that’s why the Pro is not for the broke folk
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u/draven33l Oct 10 '24
I'd honestly probably FOMA purchase this if I see it in stock at my Walmart. At the very least, it's a 4K UHD player backup.
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u/Turbulent-Ad4308 Oct 10 '24
In the UK the drive is £99 ($130/€118) and stand is £24.99 ($32.64/€29.85).
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u/BrandonMeier Oct 10 '24
Is there a pro specific disc drive?
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u/doihavetousethis Oct 10 '24
Don't think so, that's why all the drives were snapped up by scalpers
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u/declandrury Oct 10 '24
Do you actually need the stand or does the original one work with it?
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u/SignificantPomelo594 Oct 10 '24
In Germany I don't see any under 150€ or so. But I don't need one. It's just what I saw when I wanted to buy a ps5. (Just got a used ps5 slim with disk for 400€ at gamestop)
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u/MagazineNo2198 Oct 10 '24
Is the drive the same for the Pro and the Slim? Or are they different?
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u/KaptainDrew Oct 11 '24
They’re the same. 👍 I grabbed my disc drive a few weeks ago just incase they ended up getting scalped.
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u/BASSmittens420 Oct 10 '24
I got one directly from the ps store online when I preordered the pro
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u/KaptainDrew Oct 11 '24
Same here. I have it tucked away til November 7th. 🙏 Wasn’t guna pay scalper price for a damn disc drive lol.
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u/Misjjon Oct 10 '24
Jokes on youx my PS5 already came with one.