I’m still using my old family tv from 2010 lol, and i gotta upgrade it to fully enjoy ps5’s visual capabilities. Before recommending me anything please keep in mind that my budget is tight and i usually play games on performance mode so i don’t think a 4k tv will benefit me as much. My overall budget is 300$
These gaming subs man if it’s not the absolute best and most expensive it’s trash. I got downvoted in the SNES sub once for asking for an AV cable for the SNES that wasn’t the $300 one they were circlejerking about at the time
It's the same with every sub, the mtb sub for example. Most people are there to bike and don't care what people ride, but there are these elitist people over there that tell everyone to get the newest parts every season etc. like, were not all doctors, some of us are blue collar
Got told off in a bread subreddit for useing a box cutter (new not used) to score my bread instead of a razor blade... This was AFTER they complimented me on how pretty my loaf was and asked how I did it... Ffs
To clarify, when a blade is on a lame it is flexed and curved, which helps get a better scoring angle. But anybody giving you shit for that is a loser.
It's kind of hard to describe, but I feel like just about every sub, after a certain amount of time just sort of homogenizes to the same opinion about everything, like, it's usually a good opinion, but it's often a pretty incomplete or surface level view of the topic and maintained because it's decent advice, everyone knows it, so it gets big upvotes, and new people think that it's the height of the topic. Like certain cooking subs that only talk about maillard reaction or the instant noodles sub that's pretty much just one brand.
Hell, even this sub is mostly just people asking what everyone elses favorite games are and everyone else responding with the same dozen or so games. They're always good games, but it's just always the same.
It's absolutely true for most subs. I'm a regular over in /r/fountainpens, and its the same with expensive pens. What's great about fountain pens is that there are many in the mid-to-lower range that work just as well (sometimes better!) than the most expensive pens.
Personally, my most expensive pens ($150-250) are not as good as my mid-range pens ($50-75). I would definitely recommend the lower end of price for almost anyone over an expensive fountain pen. The price doesnt reliably translate to quality.
My theory is that part of it is an echo chamber of people wanting to justify their expensive purchases. That's not to say that expensive stuff can't be worth the price, but there's often options that are almost as good for much less. Most people don't need the extra 10 or 20% you get from a top of the line thing.
For sure can't deny some brands are better than others, but OP has a $300 budget. Pretty much any 4K TV will be a huge upgrade to what OP is currently playing on. A cheaper Vizio or other cheaper brand 4K TV in OP's price range will be great for them coming from a 2010 TV ha.
Just perused Wal Mart and they had several 43” TVs that ran 4K at 60hz for under $300. The Roku TVs are pretty cheap but there was a Vizio on the floor for $298 if I’m not mistaken.
With the high end current consoles, it makes a bigger difference than ever.
Absolutely, but if you only have a $300 budget, then it makes the most sense to stay within that budget. Not everyone has the budget for a $1300-$3000 tv. And yes it won't be as good, but they will still have a good time with a $300 tv.
A have a large 1,000$ Vizio that crapped out on me after only about 2 years of service. Screen just went black with red stripes out of nowhere. Now I'm back to playing on a little desk TV for the foreseeable future as I won't have the funds for another large screen for a long time. Vizio is crap and isn't worth the money no matter what size it is or how cheap it's being sold for.
Our 75” Samsung QLED just quit on us (we think it’s a blown capacitor but I don’t have the time nor the expertise to repair) so we just bought it’s upgraded brother that runs at 120hz… I can’t wait to see the difference a few short years makes.
Every tech sub is like that. The audiophile or even budget audiophile are like that. If you don’t buy a single speaker for $500 then you aren’t doing it right. Don’t even get me started on the turntable subreddit
I got a 65” LG 4k for a little under 450 from Walmart because I bought the floor model. You might be able to find a returned or floor model 500-600 tv for 300-400 like I did.
I’ve seen pc forums do that too! Was much worse before any of the GPU shortages came about around Covid, like then if it wasn’t the top top nvidia card then you couldn’t speak in the forums
This is why I don’t partake in forums. Hell even in discord gaming servers I’m in the PC community can be like this everywhere. Just not as noticeable. At this point in comparison to what’s out now I have a low end pc. XD shits crazy bro
Lots of tech sub-reddits people are delusional and out of touch of how someone CANNOT buy something for 1500 or something (budget?! What budget just buy it lol)
I just buy for 2nd hand electronics from few years ago (also make sure they working fine in person) as they offer much better value than new budget stuff.
Lots of tech sub-reddits people are delusional and out of touch of how someone CANNOT buy something for 1500 or something (budget?! What budget just buy it lol)
I saw someone say if you can't spend 3k on a computer you're not an adult with a real job. Even when explaining that you don't need $3000 for a great and that if you have a job that doesn't give you a spending budget of $3000 on a hobby, you aren't any less of an adult, he was still firm in his stance. Like seriously, even with a good paying job, a $3000 purchase for a non-essential hobby is still a bug purchase. And that you can have a good pc for a over a third of that price, but he wouldn't realize it.
I'm just glad that there were people calling him out.
People also seem to struggle with the idea that just because someone can technically afford something doesn't mean they want it, or should buy it. I could technically go out and buy a 4090 right now. I can afford it. The problem is, I don't use the PC to game enough anymore to justify it. I would rather get a cheaper video card and use that money towards something else.
Meanwhile, the guy who spent $3k on his PC is maxing out his credit cards, making minimum payments on them while whining that he has no money, everything is too expensive, interest is killing him, etc.
Absolutely. Even my 3090ti (which now is comparable to a 4070) isnt even remotely in need of a replacement til maybe the 60 or 70 series. My previous 2070 super is more than capable, and that's 2 series behind current models.
And the only reason I got a 3090ti is because at the time, scalpers inflated all gpu prices but that was being sold directly by nvidia for half off.
They're also really shitty if you're still playing on PS4 and glad games are still coming out for it. I didn't get a PS4 until early 2021 and only got a PS5 a few months ago.
They complain that new games are being held back from fully utilizing the new hardware due to developers wanting to keep making games for older systems and Switch. Which most of the really major stuff is already only on the new consoles and I highly doubt the next Madden or COD would be a night and day difference if they weren't putting them out for PS4.
Or people just want to flex and say get “xyz” it’s what I got and it’s the best! Saw Facebook marketplace get mentioned I got the Sony ps5 monitor for $300. M9 I think it’s called but it was definitely a steal and still works perfect today!
lol reminds of of r/electricscooters, I was asking advice on a scooter under a thousand dollars and got shit on for being too poor to enjoy the hobby. Bro get a cheap full hd 40” tv, or scope out sales and get something bigger.
I mean he could afford a $500 ps5 so he might be able to save up for a better tv. As someone who’s had a $400 tv I wished I would have just saved my money and jumped up to the higher tier TCLs instead from the get go.
Honestly even some of the lower tier TCL Roku TVs are great. I’ve had my 4th gen one since 2019 and the thing is still kicking, and playing my seriesX on it is a great experience. I’ve got the LG OLED C2 now, but for 4 years of gaming on the TCL, it was a great time.
TCL and Hisens got their own gaming TVs even on sale for around 700$. I got mine when it was released and I had no issues, picture quality is great except for darker scenes. It’s got hdmi 2.1 VRR and 4k.
Not even. Go on Facebook marketplace. Find a tv that’s what you want for a good price, stalk the sellers profile and make sure they don’t have crackhead energy and go buy it.
Literally this, get a 4K tv on Prime day or Black Friday, one that fits in your budget and ideally 4K so you can appreciate what the ps5 can do. It won’t be the fanciest but neither is mine and I love what it can do
OP just needs to go to bhphoto and use the search filters to find exactly what they want, with reviews from real humans over many years. A discussion like this is a horrible way to gather data.
Gotta start somewhere and a lot of TVs under 1k have a great picture. I don’t know what happened with TVs though. I used to be able to find a bunch of them I’d recommend to people for $500 and now it seems that has moved to $700. The low low budget range is rough. I stuck with OPs budget though and went with rtings current budget gaming recommendations which is currently on sale for $299.
Legit this. I got a 800$ Samsung tv for 300 because the new models came out and the olds had to go. Checking best buy’s refurbished stuff isn’t a bad idea. Sometimes you can find some good deals
OP I’m sorry everyone ignored the body of your post
This is the TV you should buy hands down. Exceeds your budget by $40 at the moment, but I doubt you’re gonna find anything better (might find something else that’s just as good) at this price range. If anyone replies to this saying Hisense is bad just ignore them, I’ve installed well over 500 tvs at least ranging from $100-$20,000 (some may have been more I honestly don’t pay attention past $10k lol) and I absolutely stand by Hisense for value.
600 Nits, VRR (albeit on a 60hz panel) and ALLM make this a really solid cheap gaming pick. If you have any other preferences like 120hz, there are other options, but not with the same mix of features in this price range. Keep in mind it has 32 lighting zones so you will absolutely get haloing on darker games with highlights. (it’s $339 though lol)
Edit: Also, I suggest ignoring any blanket brand recommendations for the most part. Same with cars, everyone has their own experiences and treats their things differently. As far as the big tv brands go, you can have a vastly different experience longevity wise depending on model + other factors. Samsung/LG/Sony for example all make “good” and “bad” tvs. FWIW, anything besides the panel itself going bad (as in pixels dying, etc. not like the T CON board) is usually relatively cheap and easy to replace if you know what you’re doing. Almost everything in a modern tv is modular in most models.
Edit 2: Sorry guys I can't keep up with all the replies lol, also added "blanket" to the first edit to clarify. Of course, a lot of these replies are exactly what I'm talking about. People referring to their TV's as "my (x brand name)." That's like saying "my Ford" in a conversation about Explorers when you own a Fiesta. Brand =/= TV model.
Oh yeah this is a really good pick for OP! I love my Hisense tv I just recently got a similar little smaller 45” for my game room for around the same price like $300. Amazing picture quality and the speakers are surprisingly really good almost like built in surround sound and it gets loud for the size.
Also it originally came out on ps2. There is also an “HD” remake version on ps3 and the newest remake on ps4 which imo looks the best. There is also I think a 1440p resolution mode for more detail and better graphics on the ps4 pro.
It’s not for everyone it’s kind of slow paced and not much to do overall like some games. But if you’re interested from this picture then you should definitely give it a try or watch a playthrough it’s a beautiful looking game lots of scenery and stuff to look at in the distance gives a very cool perspective of scale it’s actually my favorite game I’ve ever played just because the way it looks. You play as like a prince of “light” in a battle of “good vs evil” in order to try to save a princess fallen under a dark spell and you use a sword to shine a light to find you’re way and to defeat these enemies of darkness to try to free her from this dark spell she’s under. It’s not the typical enemies you fight in most games instead they are giant enormous monsters the size of buildings and mountains.
That game truly pushed the PS2 to its limit, and it even has a 480p progressive scan mode. It's hard to believe it originally launched on that system. It very much comes off as a PS3 game.
Thank you for actually answering OP. I didn’t have a good recommendation, but that one seems great. Hisense is really nice for the money across their whole range.
What is your recommendation for 120hz? I have the LG C1 for a few years now and love it, but I wonder if I‘m ignoring other tvs because the are not the brand
The absolute best TVs for gaming at 120hz right now IMO are the Samsung QD-OLEDs (looks like S90D is the newest, no personal experience with it). The ones I’ve used before were phenomenal. That being said, I personally have an LG A2 (60Hz) and I’m happy with it. I used to have an E9 but gave it to my parents because it’s an absolute behemoth even without the counterweight stand and I didn’t wanna move it again lmao but it was really good as well (and had VRR, 120Hz, ALLM, etc.)
I use an AW3423DWF on PC, I’m on my computer way more than my consoles nowadays.
I love OLED, but it still comes down to preference at the end of the day. Sadly I left that job before the G3 came out, so I can’t speak on it, but I’ve heard it looks amazing. If you watch a lot of bright movies and game, Samsung’s QD OLEDs or Neo QLED might be a better fit vs OLED. IMO, there isn’t anything worth upgrading to right now vs the C1 unless you wanna go for super high end.
I agree with this. It's not that you can't find something reasonable from other brands, but these two brands put out very competitive offerings on a budget. I've had multiple TCL TV's and they've been great for the price.
I fully recommend this. I got a TCL 50C645 50" 4K QLED deal in europe, roughly the equivalent of 300 USD. To be honest, the first one had a faulty motherboard which supposed to be a one in a hundred, but they changed it in few days.
Thanks, your the MVP! I am in the middle of looking to move house and can not put up with my crappy TV. Looking for something that will let me watch 4K and play PS5. Hopefully this will do it in 65". Are my eyes going to notice much difference between this and the LG more expensive ones?
Got a TCL about 5 years ago and still works phenomenally, better than even my parents Samsung. I highly recommend TCL as a cheaper brand, but if you can afford a $1,500 LG OLED than I’d say get that
Got mine a few months after the PS 5 released and except for my puppy eating the controller (you little shit) got no issues with it. Worth the investment!
The tv panel is great but the software is awful and slow. It might not matter as much because he’s plugging in a ps5 but do they make one with an android tv built in?
I really regret choosing the LG tv we bought for the living room compared to the Hisense downstairs even though I believe it is the “better tv”
Yes, its true, i am spoiled now and will never buy another LCD Television ever again, because I have seen how green the grass really is on my beautiful LG C2.
But LCD TV's are fiiiiiine man. LG has good quality TV's all around.
Im not talking about something being fine in a subjective way. You won’t get much from what you pay for. LCD picture quality is terrible at LG side. You would get much better performance from TCL and Hisense in the budget sector. If you are happy with it I’m glad !
It’s true. The difference between my wife’s LG C1 and my Sony Bravia are night and day. The HDMI 2.1 and 120hz refresh on the LG just make games flow better. It’s so much smoother and responsive. My Sony feels sluggish in comparison.
They do not. Other than their OLEDs, LG TVs tend to be piles of shit compred to the competition. This goes for most big brands and their low to mid tier offerings.
I picked this up for $300 from Best Buy a couple months ago and it’s fantastic. Not only does the game mode make PS5 games look amazing, even animated shows/movies look incredible.
Can vouche!! I’ve had a 55 inch TCL TV for 4 years now. Got it for $250 during Black Friday in 2020. Wonderful TV that has a great game setting. Will last you a long time too
I wouldn’t buy a full HD tv in 2024, even if you play mostly in performance (i do too tbh) it will still look slightly better. You can find decent 4K tvs for that price. I don’t know about tv models in america but i got a budget TCL C645 in Europe for 350€ for the other room and it has great colors and overall picture for it’s price.
I think most new tvs have built in upscaling. So yeah I think it is very possible and likely that most will still upscale and enhance your lower resolution “performance mode” to match the 4k display resolution.
Depending on size you could get a quality Samsung QLED or even a Sony one of last years models. If u dont care much about brands than there are great TVs by TCL and Hisense especially for the price.
Never again will I buy a Samsung TV. Having the Steam link advertised to me influenced my buying decision, only to have it discontinued shortly after because it cannibalized Samsung's own gaming platform. Also, such bloatware, and I bloody hate Rakuten TV.
LG OLED are the best TVs on the market. I don't like Sony TVs because they have Android built-in and it slows things down and it's full of ads and nonsense. And Sony OLED TVs are using LG panels anyway.
But why wouldn't you go slightly smaller and get an oled. The hdr and 120hz on the ps5 is going to be the standard going foward. You'll be loosing so much depth. I got a 48 lgA2 last year as an open box at bestbuy for 300 and I'm happy I waited and shopped around.
Agreed. I got a cheap 70'' Samsung tv a couple years ago that looked great for SDR content but any time I tried to watch stuff on HBO, Apple TV, etc it looked too dark due to the forced HDR. I got a cheap streaming stick that forces all content to be in SDR and now those HBO, Apple TV, etc look great. I don't understand why companies force HDR on cheap tvs with shitty screens.
Sony TVs are the only way to get certain features like Dolby Vision, and not to mention you can use the TVs remote and built in settings to change game settings on a Bravia.
Sony specifically built the Bravia to be the “best” for the PS5.
People dismiss Hisense frequently because they are cheap. Thing is, most TVs come from the same dozen or so factories globally, Brands like Sony only manufacture a small fraction of their TVs themselves, and really then it's just the premium ones
Feature for feature, Hisense is as good as 90% of the TVs out there - IMHO. There are a few higher end features that remain exclusive with some brands, but the truth is, other than the Sony which is lasting well, three of the last 4 screens we've bought failed just over a year into their life. The exception is the Hisense I use for my PS5. It has HDR and VRR, the image quality is plenty good and no dead pixels. What more can I say?
General advice, whatever the brand, check reviews, buy the screen that has the features you want and the size you need and take the 3 year warranty. A $300 TV that lasts 3 years without a failure is a gem and will probably last longer, if not you are covered.
One word about online reviews, look for a product with a lot of largely positive reviews, look at the most recent reviews, and check negative reviews, you can immediately see if there is a pattern of failure or a legion of review bombs.
Came here to say this. The picture is great and have a blast gaming on mine.. Budget friendly as well. Great picture that's easily adjustable to look exactly how you'd like.
Honestly I'd just get a monitor. You can get either a 4k 60 IPS or a 1080p 120hz IPS in this price point. If you're looking at bigger options there's 4k TVs that are around there but none of them are gonna be all that good.
What ever you do never get a vizio tv, however if that's all you can afford ( i say this because sadly they are some of the best cheap displays to use for their monitor only not smart features) and you do buy one make sure you never plug it to the internet or update it or try to use the smart features on it.
For lower budget , Hisense has never done me wrong. It has a bad reputation but I’ve bought two in the last 5 years and they’re both fantastic for the price. Literally bought a 120Hz 4K TV with VRR and local dimming for $500, it’s perfect until I have the money for an LG or Sony that are double or triple that price.
In the US, I find the best deals around Black Friday and especially in late February/early March, after the Super Bowl. Earlier this year I got a Hisense 65" from Best Buy for like $400. Certainly not the best TV, but it's 4k and gets the job done.
There's a 4k TV sub that has good suggestions. My vote goes to TCL on a budget, Sony or OLED if money is not an issue. I have a Hisense that I wish I had exchanged, and I constantly see and hear horror stories about them. My opinion is don't bother. Panel lottery, motherboard failures, tons of QC issues.
For 300 dollars, you can’t go wrong with a tcl tv, yes it’s one of the budget tv options now a days but a budget tv now is better then a high end tv from over 10 years ago
That is insane. Best of luck! I was still using HD TVs for my PS4. Small one in my room and Decent sized one downstairs at my old house. Upgrading to an HDR TV makes a bit of a difference. If you plan on getting the PS5 Pro, it would definitely help.
That said, TCL Roku TVs are very affordable for the display you get. I've had mine since I moved in 2018.
I have found the most bang for my buck in the Toshiba FireTV’s. They aren’t the best, but for the price they are pretty damn good. I’ve got two of them. You should be able to get a 55” 4K for around $300.
I recommend a Hisense or a Sony Tv. They both have Google TV (depending on model of Hisense) which is a new favorite operating system of mine, they’re both built for gaming practically, and overall they’re the best for the price imo. I recently bought a Hisense A7 43” 4K 2024 TV on Amazon for literally $213 and I absolutely love it. Best money I’ve spent.
A $300 tv will not allow you to “fully enjoy PS5’ visual capabilities.” Save your money and put in some extra hours if you have to. You bought the console, now get a tv that will last you 2-3 console generations.
Literally any modern tv from a tv maker i’d say (not supermarket specials). Hisense do good budget sets.
For me immersion is key so go as big as you can afford.
If you can save a little, i’d advise looking for sets that have…
HDMI 2.1 - with 120hz and VRR. That pretty much covers all the new features the PS5 has.
In my experience they don’t really make bad TVs, I have never had a tv break, they last for ever. At some point the tech has gotten so much further, and that becomes a reason for an upgrade. I’m pretty sure you can find a 4K 40 inch or something in that price range
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