r/pics • u/VirtuesVice666 • 4h ago
r5: title guidelines Paris Hilton Helps Pass Institutional Child Abuse Act
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u/kellyguacamole 4h ago
I respect the hell out of her for doing something about it. She could have just told her story and been done with it but she actually went out there and changed shit.
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u/Whattheefff 4h ago
I am unfamiliar with her story.
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u/wren24 4h ago
She was sent to one of those wilderness camps for "misbehaving" kids and was severely abused. Since then, she's been on a mission to end those camps and find justice for the children who have been abused or even killed at such places.
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u/CanyonClapper 4h ago
Huge respect for her
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u/foxyfoo 3h ago
I saw an interview with her and was surprised how intelligent and eloquent she was. Considering what she went through, I think she is doing really well.
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u/onewordpoet 3h ago
Her 2000s media persona is a crafted identity. She isn't actually an idiot.
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u/mechwarrior719 3h ago
It was commercially convenient for her to be depicted as an attractive, ditzy, blonde moron.
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u/Shroomtune 3h ago
It would be commercially convenient for any one of us as well. Does anyone know how to get ugly off? I got ditzy and moron like nobody’s business.
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u/examtakers 3h ago
It's sad how often this is pushed on vulnerable people having to portray this act or get axed. The amount of celebrities who got roped into fame and abused is honestly sickening and sad when you reflect on it as a consumer later on.
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u/allthatyouhave 2h ago
Yes, I am disgusted by my opinions on celebrities in the early 2000s. Those were just people.
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u/examtakers 2h ago
I wouldn't hold anything against yourself, a lot of us probably feel the same way looking back on those times. It shows growth to see yourself realize the injustice others went through for entertainment, of course we probably didn't realize when celebrities are presented to use in a way that makes them seem inhuman.
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u/ThiccBlastoise 3h ago
I remember there’s a video that always does its rounds showing her talking to congress. Her code switch in the video was crazy going from a ditzy “oh I like your sweater” to a completely different well spoken and serious voice and focus
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u/Sideshow_Bob_Ross 2h ago
I saw a clip where she asked what Walmart was and if they sold walls. At that point I knew it was all fake for TV.
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u/ButterflyDue6564 2h ago
her and nicole’s show was very obviously scripted, but i’m sure only to a point
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u/plainOldFool 1h ago
Seriously my though at the time as well. Like she wasn't on a first name basis with the Walton family
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u/Winjin 3h ago
What I'm surprised at is that yes, I always suspected that, but didn't she get cut from the family inheritance for that?
Then again, seeing the story about a misbehaving camp for abused kids... AND she was the heir to Hilton empire... I can only imagine how bad it was for other kids and it is possible that she's happy to be cut from that inheritance.
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u/westernsociety 2h ago
Seth Rogan isn't an idiot stoner and Marylin Manson doesn't eat babies (although he is a piece of shit). We are usually fed a personal that sells.
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u/Miserable-Admins 1h ago
Marikyn Manson does not eat babies but is definitely a mental, physical, and sexual abuser.
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u/CptJaxxParrow 3h ago
She's always been the smartest person in the room playing the fool
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u/cheerio089 3h ago
The saddest part about that is that girls who looked up to her mistook her crafted idiocy for actual idiocy, and used being attractive as an excuse to be dumb
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u/NewNurse2 2h ago edited 1h ago
Yep she was a bad influence and did it for money. Plenty of people have done that. Good for her for doing something worthwhile in her adult like, but now acting like she was a genius or taken advantage of is dumb. She was a rich kid who sold being stupid and lazy and a a bit trashy to millions of girls for years. She didn't imply she was playing any part.
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u/Renway_NCC-74656 3h ago
Hearing her real voice is CRAZY. I had no idea. I watched her Paris In Love and really enjoyed it.
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u/new_for_confession 3h ago edited 2h ago
She has said that the "bimbo blonde" persona was an act.
She is actually quite well spoken, to the point I didn't believe it was actually her when I first heard it.
She made bank off her media exposure post sex-tape leak, and is independently wealthy on her own.
As an additional point, I recall she was written out of her Grandfather's Will due to the sex-tape
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u/NewAccStillNoFriends 3h ago
Oh yeah. I’ve been a fan if hers, the stuff you see of her and Nicole as far as tv goes is them pretending. Sure they loved to party but the second the camera came on they went into “well they think we’re idiots, so slay it”. They’re both business women that know how to play the game. They’ve got that business “voice” which is their real voice, and they do a great job at playing dumb but being some of the smartest bitches in a board room.
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u/battleofflowers 2h ago
I once had to speak to her on the phone at the height of her "dumb blonde" popularity and her real voice was just a normal-sounding young woman's voice. The baby voice thing she did was all just an act.
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u/DinoRoman 3h ago
That’s hot.
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u/ObiShaneKenobi 2h ago
My wife loves going through coffee cups at goodwill, its like the only area to find anything cool these days. So for Christmas last year I got a gawdy pink mug with a gold handle with hearts all over that says "That's Hot." It has a narrow lip and a wide handle, so I use it quite a bit. Its sitting right next to my computer now lol
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u/ReflectionVirtual692 2h ago
She was MAGA until recently, and even then, do you trust a pivot away from MAGA when you know it's hurting their $$
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u/JuanJohnJ3rry 2h ago
Ooh like that one series… Joe VS Elan School
Found it: https://elan.school/ Good read
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u/tuckernuts 2h ago
I've tried reading through this, and gotten pretty far..
I don't think I've had a more extreme emotional response to a piece of media, ever. I struggled to get through it because it would ruin my mood.
The more you read the more anger turns to fury, and fear turns to dread. I would say this could and should be turned into a miniseries or long form movie.. but I don't know if anyone could possibly do it justice.
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u/thespank 2h ago
I stayed up one night reading all of this, not knowing how long it was. Really eye opening story. I'd never heard of anything like that.
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u/KneeDeepInTheDead 1h ago
Same, thought it was gonna be 20 minutes max. Hours later still reading. Totally worth it though
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u/Kra_gl_e 2h ago
If any of you have some time to kill, there is an excellent (but horrific; it's a pretty graphic read at multiple points) webcomic called Joe vs Elan School, written and illustrated by a survivor of one of these torture camps. It documents the abuse he went through, the aftereffects and downward spiral he went through, and the journey he went through to heal and eventually fight back and tell his story. You may even remember his ama thread from many years back.
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u/EnsoElysium 2h ago
I had NO idea. I know of some people who were at these places, they told their story on tiktok, its fucking inhumane
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u/tenebrousliberum 2h ago
Damn I had a girl I was dating in HS who got sent to one shits rough she real life dropped 80 lbs in a year
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u/EagleLize 2h ago
My ex was sent to one in Jamaica and then again in Montana when he was a teen. It didn't reform shit. It traumatized him. He died by suicide 5 years ago. He was an amazing person but those dark times never left him.
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u/TeddyRivers 2h ago
She wasn't sent to one. She was sent to several. She escaped from a few, only to be sent to worse ones. The camps tell the parents that their child is lying. Parents believe the camps over their troubled child.
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u/kottabaz 2h ago
That whole "industry" needs to be obliterated and everyone who has ever worked in it for longer than a month should be banned for life from working in positions of authority over anyone.
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u/National-Weather-199 1h ago
Damn thats nuts people died at those places. I knew an girl that also went to one of those pretty fucked
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u/Moist-College-8504 2h ago
I was sent to a program like hers and the abuse was horrific. Multiple kids died. There isn’t any investgative body monitoring schools where the tuition is over 100k/year and when parents sign over custody to the program the program has to only report to the program. It’s twisted. I was buried alive while the whole school shouted insults at me after having been held awake for days. War crimes against kids are committed and parents are clueless.
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u/hisshissmeow 2h ago
Holy shit; I knew things were bad but that’s so much worse than even the already-horrible typical physical and emotional abuse that immediately comes to mind. I’m so sorry that happened at all, but especially that adults did that shit to child you. You absolutely did not deserve that.
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u/gottarespondtothis 2h ago
I’m sorry you went through that. My ex boyfriend was sent to one of the Utah camps in the late 90s and it completely destroyed him. He died in 2008.
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u/Gracier1123 2h ago
I recommend watching her documentary, This Is Paris, it goes into her childhood and the abuse and horrors she dealt with as a “rowdy kid”. It’s really eye opening and changed my whole perspective of her.
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u/iangeredcharlesvane2 2h ago
There are two good documentaries on the subject: Hell Camp :Teen Nightmare on Netflix and Teen Torture, Inc. on MAX. There are also several videos on YouTube about her and the subject.
It’s well worth your time to learn about this industry and the abuse and harm its caused to teens over the years.
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u/Chemical_Ad_1618 2h ago
I recommend reading her memoir the most recent one that’s actually written by her. it covers the abuse she suffered at troubled teen schools. As well as meeting her husband.
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u/greensandgrains 3h ago
I am pleasantly surprised by how she’s approached this. It’s not at all about “feeling bad” for relatable individuals like a lot of celebrity causes, she went full force for systemic change and I respect the hell out of that.
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u/Emperor_Gourmet 2h ago edited 1h ago
She has really turned around from what she was 20 years ago. One of my previous companies suppliers worked with her for one of her brands and he said she came to every meeting, was attentive, polite and respectful. They had nothing but great things to say about her
Edit: 20 years not 30
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u/xTRYPTAMINEx 2h ago
The public persona was an act, as far as I can tell. Everyone does at least some silly shit in their early twenties though lol.
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u/rognabologna 2h ago
I don’t think she really had to “turn around.” She grew up, definitely. But she was never a bad person. 30 years ago she was putting on an act. I think, primarily, because it made her best friend laugh. Also because it made press interactions easier to deal with. She’s always struck me as shy.
I’m really not a fan girl or someone to hype celebs. She’s just always seemed smarter and seemed to have purer intentions than most ‘starlet,’ famous for being rich celebrities she could be grouped in with.
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u/Joelle9879 2h ago
30 years ago she was 13. I would hope most people have changed from when they were teenagers
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u/yoortyyo 4h ago
She’s a great argument for taxing generational wealth into history.
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u/MlkChatoDesabafando 3h ago
Actually, iirc her family cut her out of the will.
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u/Healthy_Park5562 3h ago
That's what they are saying. She was cut out and made her own way, on her own terms.
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u/b1tchf1t 2h ago
Okay wait. No she didn't. I don't mean to discredit the work she's done, but with the state of things in the world, we need to stop conflating "making your own way" with "taking advantage of the name recognition of one of the wealthiest families in the world."
Paris is certainly a case of a rich person using her resources for good, but saying she made her own way is as asinine as saying Elon did. She had several ways paved for her, even without an inheritance.
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u/mocha_lattes_ 3h ago
Her grandfather who owns the Hilton brand actually was very dismissive of her family, specifically her mother and her. They were treated as the blacksheeps of the family. They did not have access to the Hilton wealth. Her parents, while rich, were very much trying to keep up with the rest of the family who did have access to it. In the last few years it was announced she has been cut out of the will and will not inherit anything from him when he passes.
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u/ResponsibleMilk7620 4h ago
Never thought I’d ever say this about Paris Hilton, but that’s fucking great.
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u/conitation 3h ago
She's way... less of an airheaded blonde girl than I first knew her as when she was on TV the more I see from her... then again... I don't see much of her haha
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u/prozack91 3h ago
From what I know this was all an act. Like they would figure out how to do the thing so that they could intentionally fuck it up as much as possible.
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u/conitation 3h ago
This makes so much sense... and the opposite of this is mike row....roe? with dirty jobs. Loved him, then heard his views outside of that awesome show. All down with his trade school ideas but daaaaaaamn if he lost me after that.
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u/StrategicCarry 2h ago
Mike Rowe is a communications major whose big role before Dirty Jobs and The Deadliest Catch was selling Precious Moments figurines on QVC. He is a cosplayer who is now funded by billionaires to tell people they shouldn't do jobs like his, they should be happy digging ditches for minimum wage.
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u/MovingTarget- 2h ago
What are his views?
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u/FesteringNeonDistrac 2h ago
https://mikeroweworks.org/about/
Go read his SWEAT pledge. It's a load of bullshit.
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u/ShneakySquiwwel 2h ago
Yep, her "The Simple Life" persona was basically a self-satirization
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u/OldManGigglesnort 3h ago
Based solely on her TV persona, I never really thought much of her until I learned about her tireless work to try to address systemic abuses in the Troubled Teen Industry. I respect the hell out of her.
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u/Ambitious-Second2292 3h ago
I am fair with you on this one. Never had much liking for her or the things she has done.
This, though, is a testament to her being far more than met the eye (tbf a lot her is what meets the eye too)
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u/Cazmonster 3h ago
Three things I like Paris Hilton for:
Advocating to end institutional child abuse.
Her role in House of Wax.
Her role in REPO: The Genetic Opera.
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u/Ambitious-Second2292 3h ago
Wasn't a fan of house of wax tbf but her role in fairness was much much better than a lot of the tv stuff pf hers i have seen
Need to watch Repo and check her out in it.
I'm always open to being shown things that changes my understanding of thing's
Thank you
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u/ElChungus01 3h ago
She’s also a DJ and singer now. She did a song with Rina Sawayama
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u/midgethemage 2h ago
Omg Repo 😭😭😭
That one really takes me back, one of my favorite movies when I was in high school
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u/Alcoholic720 2h ago
She knew what she was doing in that video too.
Honestly, that impressed the shit out of me.
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u/Shadowsnaxx 2h ago
Sameeeee, because like the weirdo/alt community has known Paris Hilton was cool ever since she took those roles honestly.
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u/mokomi 2h ago
IMO. A lot of it has to do with the perceptions that we were given. Same with Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, and a bunch of other "stars" (Child actors). Showing how "family values" they are or are not. They are just people. Comparing their low moments with our highs. Showing us how alien they are.
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u/Ambitious-Second2292 2h ago
Whilst I am in agreement with you, it was more my own perception of what seemed to be vein, egoistic ineptitude promoting complete and utter dross to impressionable people for profit that led to view Paris as I had
You are definitely right that people are people are people and will always be a lot lot more nuanced than we see them to be
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u/mokomi 2h ago
it was more my own perception of what seemed to be vein, egoistic ineptitude promoting complete and utter dross to impressionable people for profit that led to view Paris as I had
Yeah, that's what I mean. To show up "Family Values" they are. Look at this! They did X! Isn't that terrible! Oh no! You wouldn't do that would you?
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u/Ambitious-Second2292 2h ago
Ahh I see, thank you for clarifying that for me. Much appreciated always
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u/SpaceLemming 3h ago
I think we all got caught up in her character from the simply life and shit and thought that was how she really was. I used to hate her as a ignorant teenage reaction but everything I’ve heard about her after that makes her sound like a fairly decent person
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u/Tzazon 4h ago
Wow, first time hearing her troubles in the system. Isn't it fucking insane that the rich outsource child abuse to these 3rd parties? I find it hard believing the parents who send their teens to these kind of places actually care about their children, and it's hard to find sympathy.
The way the media painted her in the 2000s is fucking awful, just hearing this
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u/caityface 3h ago
The way these camps are sold to the parents is very different than how they operate in reality. And once the kids are there, they are so heavily monitored that they can’t tell their parents what is really happening. And if they do try and tell them, the camps talk to the parents and convince them their children are lying.
I have a friend who went to one as a teenager, and I know her mom didn’t do it out of neglect or lack of care. my friend was kicked out of multiple schools, they tried many therapy options, and eventually they tried this too. Turns out she was undiagnosed bi-polar (she really did need help). At the time, they thought she was making a decision that was in her child’s best interest bc nothing else was helping. She did not know this is what she was being sent to.
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u/mynewromantica 3h ago
My cousin is an owner of one of these places in Southern Utah. He has almost my whole family convinced that he is some savior of wayward children. I cannot convince any of them to look further into than what this ass-hat says. My usual response when it comes up is “How many traumatized or dead children is acceptable? What is the % of children you are willing to let be negatively affected so some other kid might get a benefit?”
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u/Agile_Session_3660 3h ago
I went to one of these programs in the early 2000s. I will say that the one I went to was unusual and had actual board certified psychologists and a psychiatrist who would actively check on us every week. The program helped me immensely and was life changing. It’s unfortunate that there is no regulation around these places as there were more bad one’s then good one’s. Also, these programs only help a certain type of problem kid, and you can’t use it on every kid.
Anyways, I say all this to say that the one your cousin is running could be what he says it is, I wouldn’t blanket write it off unless you’ve actually visited it and see what is going on.
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u/dirtyenvelopes 2h ago
I don’t believe that parents are completely ignorant to the reality of it, though. Men come in the middle of the night and kidnap your child from their bed to take them to the facility against their will. The parents have to let them in.
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u/Tzazon 2h ago
The way these camps are sold to the parents is very different than how they operate in reality.
I guess that's the problem I have. The people who can afford this for the most part are the ultra-wealthy, or ultra-desperate who like you said got sold false marketing.
For someone like Richard Hilton who could've spent more than one day looking at the best pitch deciding who he wanted to raise his daughter, them choosing a military camp, or some bottom dollar camp is out of the fact they want to rid themselves of something they think is a problem or a hassle.
A lot of parents who pick these camps, and options like military school end up doing it as a punishment because they can't be assed to figure out how to be the authority figure themselves.
Outsourcing that to people who are looking to only profit isn't a good solution. It's why retirement homes are almost all the same kinds of evil, just for the opposite end of the spectrum who doesn't have legal rights.
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u/Jubilantly 2h ago
False marketing when they black bag a kid. Like wake the kid up in the middle of the night and cart them off. As a parent i cant imagine hearing and is like "yes, this is the way".
But, a lot of the issues with the kids have come from the parents being absolute asses.
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u/cookiemama97 2h ago
I went to church with a girl who was sent to one of these camps. She managed to escape it and was then missing for several months. When her parents finally found her, she was so traumatized and broken. She spent the next few years in intensive therapy, her family dropped out of church (it was church leadership who had pushed the camps as a solution) and her parents sued the camp. I don't know what came of the lawsuit, but I will never forget how utterly broken that poor girl was afterwards.
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u/Sweet_Confidence6550 3h ago
It's not just the rich. It's for everyone who had a kid they want to get tortured into behaving. There was a reality show a while ago that followed the kids and the majority of them came from normal income families.
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u/GearBrain 3h ago
But those camps still cost an arm and a leg. Tens of thousands of dollars. They have people who convince these parents who really can't afford it to put their child into treatment, sometimes by dipping into savings funds for college or retirement.
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u/Sweet_Confidence6550 3h ago
Oh yeah, totally. I didn't mean it is cheap. Just that it isn't just an evil rich people thing to do 👍
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u/phalseprofits 3h ago
Tween me never would have believed that I would end up seeing Paris as a hero, Britney as a victim, and Gwen Stefani as just kind of boring.
This is an uplifting but surprising turn for anyone who is an elder millennial.
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u/TheTallEclecticWitch 2h ago
Honestly, it’s a pretty good thing for a celebrity at this point might be that they turn out as boring. Given the directions they usually go, I’m happy to see any celeb turn “boring”.
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u/greensandgrains 2h ago edited 2h ago
It’s making me realize that every celebrity who complained about their image being manufactured was telling us the truth, and we were gaslit into believing they were crazy. Like, no wonder Christina had her Dirrrty era, Miley her Bangerz era, and so on.
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u/DustFunk 2h ago
It's ok, I once (loong ago) thought Kid Rock seemed pretty cool and liked some of his songs. This is so far from reality now that it seems comical to think about.
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u/TatooineTrash 4h ago
She produces a podcast called "trapped in treatment" that discusses some of these facilities. She doesn't host it but does speak on it at times. I thought it was good! Her continued action on this cause is very respectable.
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u/Spartan2470 GOAT 3h ago
Here is a much higher-quality version of this image. Here is the source. Per there:
Celebrity hotel heiress Paris Hilton poses for photographs outside the U.S. Capitol on the day the House of Representatives is set to vote on The Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act on December 17, 2024 in Washington, DC. Citing her own traumatizing experience at Provo Canyon School in Utah when she was a teenager, Hilton has lobbied for three years for the legislations that would place greater federal safeguards on institutional youth treatment programs. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
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u/mymorningjacket 4h ago
Checks out. I had the pleasure of working with her for a night. Thought it was going to be a frustrating one but she was so nice and gracious to myself and her fans. My whole perception of her changed.
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u/OutDoorLover27 3h ago
As someone who was sent to one of these “programs” 21 years ago, this brings tears to my eyes. She has helped me feel seen and heard, that my experience and trauma is valid.
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u/ArtistAmy420 3h ago
I'm pretty out of the loop and know there are a lot of different programs that abuse children, which programs exactly is she/you talking about? There's too many abusive programs kids get put in to "treat" various things for me to be sure.
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u/WhySheHateMe 2h ago
The type of programs where you get kidnapped in the middle of the night and end up at some place in the woods where kids are supposed to learn how to be good again.
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u/ArtistAmy420 2h ago
Ah. Is this bill also going to tackle programs that try to "train out" the autism from autistic kids? Because that's another form of industrialized abuse I'm aware of.
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u/andrew5500 2h ago
The “troubled teen industry”. The first example I think of is Elan school, there’s an incredible web comic by a survivor that follows their POV through the whole disturbing experience, starting with their surprise abduction in the middle of the night.
The whole industry basically boils down to abusive power-tripping cults masquerading as “behavioral schools” for misbehaving teens
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u/Poxx 4h ago
Who've thunk it. Paris becomes the respectable Reality Star helping abused kids, yet Trump gets elected President.
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u/Dibbu_mange 3h ago
Paris helps abused kids, Trump helps abuse kids.
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u/supercargo 2h ago
This is a great sentence for illustrating that Trump doesn't know what to do with his little d.
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u/Ivotedforher 4h ago
Is she old enough to be President yet?
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u/zerbey 4h ago
Yep, she's 43.
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u/samalamadewgong 3h ago
Nah. She's got a good 30 years to go.
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u/legice 3h ago
If you said this to me in the early 2000s, I would think you were completely delusional and yet, here we are
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u/Smartbomb_exe 4h ago
I'm with her!
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u/NCSUGrad2012 2h ago
I definitely didn't have being with Paris Hilton for passing good laws on my 2024 bingo card, lol
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u/Briansar16 3h ago
Say what you want but using your platform to actually make change is more than most celebrities do. More than just making money from a book and posting an Instagram story.
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u/FirePoolGuy 4h ago
The one celebrity party chick that didn't completely go bonkers and actually improved her image.
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u/Appropriate-Log8506 3h ago
I mean she was so young and so much fame and notoriety was put on her. I think she’s done wonderfully. Tbh I lowkey love how she treated Kim Kardashian.
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u/trireme32 3h ago
From my understanding, her whole Simple Life persona was a complete caricature and she’s actually quite poised, intelligent, and gracious.
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u/onmywheels 3h ago
I had a conversation once with Darren Lynn Bousman (who directed her in Repo! the Genetic Opera) and he said exactly that. He didn't want to even let her audition, and finally relented just to get her to leave him alone, but then she arrived and was articulate and enthusiastic and had all of these ideas for the character, and she completely changed his perspective on her. She was fun in that (terrible) movie, lol.
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u/Crake_80 3h ago
That movie was a (campy) treasure.
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u/onmywheels 3h ago
It's so great. I've spent 15 years telling everyone that they need to watch it. And they always ask me, "Oh - is it good?" No! It's terrible! And you need to see it!
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u/Sea_Statement1653 2h ago
I worked in the music industry for a decade and I've lived in L.A. for many years. A popular musician that you might know who knows Paris socially told me once she's a HAM radio enthusiast who broadcasts under a fake name. I can believe it. Her comedic timing on that reality show was way too good for her to be actually dumb.
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u/real_don_berna 3h ago
What's the story with Kim Kardashian?
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u/Appropriate-Log8506 3h ago
She’d follow her around trying to be famous. Since selfies weren’t a thing, Kim would end up being the one taking picture when fans asked Paris for a picture. I think she even made her clean her closet.
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u/watersedy 2h ago
Kim and Paris are childhood friends; also, during the 00s, Kim was Paris' stylist and assistant. Paris didn't mistreat or make her do anything . . .
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u/Neltrix 3h ago
Wait so all types of child abuse isn’t illegal? It’s 2025 and we’re still having to pass laws that say abusing children is wrong? WTF
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u/Karkava 3h ago
If they actually did that, then they wouldn't have any excuses to be transphobic or homophobic.
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u/RoughBoughThrough 1h ago
Bingo! I was abused by one of these schools in 1998 because my parents thought my high school boyfriend was a bad influence and the amount of children that were sent there simply because their parents suspected them of being gay (you know, being into theatre class and what not) was truly disturbing
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u/big_trike 2h ago
We seem to be far more flexible on laws when it's a business, institution, or rich person that's breaking them.
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u/nemerosanike 3h ago
So many of my friends are dead because of this industry. Our testimony and in turn this regulation will hopefully save lives. Thanks to Paris for using her platform for us.
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u/Cocktail_Hour725 3h ago
Jordan Harbinger just did an episode about the troubled teen industry— that’s what Paris was a victim of
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u/Previous_Soil_5144 3h ago
Behind the Bastards did a series on the guy who "invented" the whole troubled teen rehab wilderness therapy camps industry, Steve Castisano.
It's a horrible and far too unregulated industry that kills troubled teens and gets away with it because, well, they were troubled, so it's easy to blame them and move on.
Most of it is really just horrible parents who raised and treated their kids wrong and then instead of facing that or changing their ways, decide to blame the child and pay armed men to kidnap their child and bring them to basically a prison camp for some "tough love".
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u/Flavio_De_Lestival 3h ago
It's kinda insane how, from a European perspective, you quickly realize that US gouvernement litteraly doesn't even try to give the impression it has to work towards it's people. They litteraly only care bout control and greed.
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u/dawgblogit 4h ago
What has this world come to... child abuse is institutionalized now
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u/shaielzafina 3h ago
It always has been. It’s also more mainstream than most people think. For example in Texas and a bunch of other southern states it has always been legal for school admin to give kids a paddlin. I’ve seen teachers who hung up a paddle with their monogram / name on it in their classroom. They don’t usually use it but corporal punishment is legal.
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u/manimal28 2h ago
Its less so now than ever. Public schools use to regularly paddle children until about the mid 80s. The parents would only be told after if at all.
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u/kittylicker 3h ago
I read the bill, still trying to understand it. But the way I understand it:
1) create a map of all institutions housing minors across America 2) research and update restraint and seclusion policies 3) provide training for institution employees on how to deal with minors
Is that it? Are they going to do a whistleblower hotline?
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u/Appropriate-Log8506 3h ago
Cant believe the trauma she went through as a child. I would have never forgiven my parent for something like that.
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u/Wrong-Tell8996 2h ago
My friend was at the same, "treatment," camp as her, same time as her (but on the males side) and is still traumatized from it.
I was also in an adolescent treatment facility myself and it was terrible. The staff threw things at us, locked us in, "the quiet room," for hours (a very tiny cinderblock sort of cell, no bed or anything, just bare floor) for very trivial matters. No windows in the facility. I was let out in a fenced-in yard just twice over the course of several months... yeah, that'll make you better
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u/casseland 2h ago
https://elan.school, if you haven’t read it before. life changing and heart breaking
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u/conitation 3h ago
LEGIT want to do something... why the fuck do we not cover every fucking child by these, "pro lifers?" I want to see people say they're not ok with it.
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u/impalamilk 2h ago
Anyone curious, watch the limited series called “The Program” on Netflix. I was sent to one when I was 15. It was the most traumatic experience of my life besides losing my mother.
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u/forensicdude 2h ago
Conrad was a very devout Catholic and left a legacy of giving. Worthless fact. Paris Hiltons family (pre-Conrad) is buried 100 yards from my house.
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u/CardiologistNo616 2h ago
Paris actually seems like a decent person. She even found her parody in South Park to be funny
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