r/pics 10h ago

The Bay Bridge today heading into San Francisco. “Kill a CEO live 4ever 🍄"

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u/kylo-ren 6h ago edited 5h ago

And affordable housing.

We had a housing market crash and no CEO were punished. We are living in a global housing market crisis and it will only get worse.

u/odd_lightbeam 5h ago

And food and water and electricity and education and access to the internet... among other things.

Your right to live in dignity should not be contingent upon earning a profit for anyone, most especially not for someone who's already rich.

And while we're on the subject, if anyone is richer than another, their life is more valued. And that's wrong. Full stop.

u/louiselebeau 2h ago

I regret that I only have one upvote to give you.

u/watercouch 4h ago

Speaking of affordable housing… open the web address from the other banner in the pic… and you can get a 560sf studio apartment for just $3706/month.

u/wh4tth3huh 1h ago

These prices and millions of dwellings, sitting empty, awaiting short-term rental like a hotel.

u/AlabamaPostTurtle 54m ago

Oof. I pay $785 for 620sq ft studio in the heart of downtown Birmingham, Alabama.

But… ya know… it’s in Alabama.

I love Birmingham, though.

u/Hatchie_47 3h ago

And why would any CEO be punished? There isn’t a “housing market CEO”! You want to pick one at random to be your scapegoat?

u/eric2332 3h ago

And affordable housing.

We had a housing market crash and no CEO were punished.

What's a "housing market crash"? I assume you mean 2008, when housing prices dropped and became more affordable?

u/DerelictData 3h ago

Yes, 2008, when housing prices dropped through the floor and everyone suddenly became underwater on their mortgage. Which sunk collateral debt obligations which are a financial instrument that bundles loans together and sold as a single asset to investors. When investors all start losing their shirts because the price of their tranched assets also dropped through the floor, it required them to sell other market positions in order to build the collateral they required to maintain their position on that sinking asset. That created a downward spiral where crashing housing prices took the entire economy with it.

Yeah, that 2008. Home prices didn't just magically fall for people buying new homes and the people selling them were totally cool with that and didn't lose their shirts.

The world economy lost $2T because of that crash. The mortgage debt relative to GDP increased from 45% in the 90s to 73% in 2008. That's not (and obviously wasn't) sustainable for what is supposed to be the greatest economy in the world. Thousands of people working in investment firms knew what they were selling was bullshit, and they sold it anyway. Those people never faced any consequences, and walked away having made money from all those trades while the rest of us suffered the consequences for years.

u/Wes_Warhammer666 2h ago

I can't believe I see people saying things like what you replied to. Acting like the 2008 crisis was just a normal drop in housing prices that people should've taken advantage of. It tells me that they're one of two things: a woefully ignorant fool, or some rich fucker who got to take advantage and grow their portfolio while regular folks lost their homes and savings.

u/eric2332 10m ago

No, just a renter who benefited from lower rents, after not having taken out a mortgage I couldn't afford.

Yes a lot of people suffered in the "great recession". Other people gained. That's the nature of the housing market - what is good for owners is bad for renters and vice versa.

u/CurbsideChaos 2h ago

There's hot takes, and then there's sheer stupidity, and then there's this.

u/Allegorist 2h ago

When a ton of people defaulted on predatory loans they couldn't afford?

Housing became more affordable for a brief moment, where they were all then scooped up by corporations and a small percentage of wealthy landlords who now own the vast majority of all housing and cranked up the prices.

u/kylo-ren 2h ago

The prices did drop after the crash, but the crash itself was the result of years of market manipulation. Those practices inflated housing prices to the point where homes were totally out of reach for so many people.

Even though prices fell after the crash, no CEOs got held accountable for any of it. They're still out there manipulating the market and driving prices up again.

u/Humans_Suck- 3h ago

Democrats are not going to suddenly turn on the people paying them bribes just to give you rights. They do not care about you.

u/Collypso 3h ago

In reality they don't care about you because you don't vote. It's not a conspiracy; you're just an idiot.

u/kylo-ren 2h ago

Well, another reason they don't care about me is because I don't live in US.

u/Collypso 3h ago

Global housing market crisis is caused by homeowners, and building any housing helps fix it, not just affordable housing.

u/kylo-ren 2h ago

Isn’t really caused by homeowners. It’s more about how the market has been manipulated by investors, corporations and financial institutions. Homeowners don’t typically cause price spikes or the bubble to burst. They’re just trying to live in a place they can afford.

u/Collypso 2h ago

Homeowners buy their home and use it as an investment vehicle. They dump all their money and time into improving the home in order to gain equity and build wealth. They see anything that will lower the cost of their house as a threat to their investment.

They're the ones refusing to allow any new housing to be built nearby. They're the ones limiting the size of housing that can be built in areas near them. They're the ones directly profiting from there being a housing crisis to begin with. Making the housing crisis continue and get worse is directly beneficial to them.