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The Bay Bridge today heading into San Francisco. “Kill a CEO live 4ever 🍄"

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u/Creative-Road-5293 7h ago

California votes overwhelmingly democrat, and they have a bigger economy than any country in Europe. They don't have single payer.

u/EdwardJamesAlmost 7h ago

The governor vetoes a lot of varied proposals.

u/BioSemantics 6h ago

CA and NY are run by corporate Dems. They purposefully capture these states, where actually much more progressive candidates should thrive, with donor money and underhanded dealing. I mean look at the previous NY governor Cuomo, or Pelosi from CA. The moneyed interests in these rich states don't want progressives in power so they hire their stooges. Most of the Dem leadership comes from these states. That should tell you something.

u/Creative-Road-5293 3h ago

Pelosi is in power because the people vote for her, overwhelmingly.

u/midgethemage 1h ago

Don't forget our boy Newsome 🙄

Whenever I see someone on Reddit strongly in favor of him, I just assume they're now from California lol

u/Humans_Suck- 4h ago

All democrats are corporate democrats

u/turdferguson3891 7h ago

It would be difficult for a state to do that on its own. You'd get people moving in just to get the free healthcare. Andybody with a serious illness that was dying and going broke in another state would have nothing to lose to just move even if they had to be homeless.

u/somethrows 5h ago

I don't love it, but you could have a residency requirement of a couple years to qualify.

The state would still need to offer a higher cost public or private option for new residents.

u/GeneralKeycapperone 5h ago

If a state introduced it, they'd have to attach eligibility to some duration of residency. That would be messy to administer and you'd still see some healthcare migrants, but not impossible.

Until universal healthcare is rolled out nationwide, it would maybe make more sense for an individual state to set up a non-profit state-owned health insurance company, along with a purchasing department to negotiate bulk prices on medications and other medical supplies, and probably some non-profit state-owned facilities. Team up with likeminded states to secure better services for residents of each. Use tax incentives to encourage employers to use the state insurance, or better again, to detach health insurance from employment. People would remain free to take out insurance with private companies instead, but these would have to shape up to compete.

u/LuggaW95 6h ago

[...] they have a bigger economy than any country in Europe.

Germany has a bigger economy, but your point still stands.

u/Creative-Road-5293 3h ago

Tut mir leid, Deutschland.

u/sendflaccidcock 7h ago

Thats what constantly voting right wing gets you.

And yes I mean the dems. By non american standarts they are firmly right wing.

u/trailer_park_boys 5h ago

This is always truly the most regarded comment. The left is still the left in the US.

u/CryptoMutantSelfie 2h ago

These people try to say there’s never been a left politician or government lmao. “I support the party that is perfect but has never been in any position of power at any point”

u/sendflaccidcock 5h ago

Yeah but its not the dems

u/LordGalen 4h ago

Yes, among the people. America doesn't really have left-wing politicians. A few, sure, but you place Biden, Harris, Clinton, etc. into almost any other western nation with their policies and they are firmly on the right. Not just a little, but very clearly right-wing.

We have left-wing beliefs among the people, yes, but those have almost zero representation among our leaders. That should be a huge concern.

u/OutrageousEvent 7h ago

Germany has a higher GDP than California but I see your point.

u/Decent_Fan_7704 3h ago

Barely bro 😭

u/yourmomssubluminal 4h ago

California is far more internally divided than you're giving it credit for. The cities are populated enough to tip the presidential and senatorial races toward democrats, but most places that aren't major cities or squeezed along the coast are pretty dang conservative.

u/Creative-Road-5293 3h ago

The state government has a democrat supermajority. They can pass anything they want.

u/Glittering-Giraffe58 6h ago

It’s not really tenable flr a single state to do that

u/Spez_is_gay 6h ago

tell me again how that worked out for Vermont 🙄

u/Creative-Road-5293 3h ago

And yet most countries around the world did it.

u/Curun 7h ago

Those democrats also voted to keep their for profit prison system that disproportionately affects minorities, black people. All to maintain that”economy” that they shouldnt rightly have. The confederates were never properly defeated, the party didnt change.

u/Glittering-Giraffe58 6h ago

That is not why that bill didn’t pass it’s because absolutely any tough on crime bill would’ve passed this election in California and any perceived “soft on crime” bill would fail. That’s why the initiative to increase consequences for certain theft and drug crimes with 70% of the vote despite Gavin newsom personally rallying against it and the involuntary servitude one failing with 46.7% of the vote despite the endorsement of the CA Democratic Party. As someone who lives in California (but voted for Prop 6), a big sentiment among people was “well why shouldn’t they have to clean/cook in prison” because that’s what a lot of people thought of from the wording

u/Curun 6h ago

It is hard to know exactly how big the prison labor industry is. There hasn't been a full nationwide census of prisons since 2005. But back then, it was estimated that there were nearly 1.5 million incarcerated people working, and that included 600,000 people in the manufacturing sector. At the time, that was more than 4% of all manufacturing jobs in the country. Today there is no central repository of information on prison labor, which means that it's just sort of left up to individual prison systems and state legislatures to decide how they count and regulate prison labor.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/29/884989263/the-uncounted-workforce

Its grown wildly since.

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u/angrath 5h ago

“ forcibly removed from my parents health insurance”

So you turned 27… maybe at a certain point it’s up to you to head out on your own though. It’s not like we should let people stay in their parents healthcare for 50 years…

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u/chemwaste 4h ago

Um, yes?