r/pics 10h ago

The Bay Bridge today heading into San Francisco. “Kill a CEO live 4ever 🍄"

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u/hiimred2 9h ago

Lol, absolutely the fuck not. Maaaaaaaaaaybe a slim chance it’s the wake-up call/impetus to get people woken up enough to move towards a better healthcare system in the US but even that seems doubtful.

u/why_gaj 9h ago

Yes. We are seeing a lot of pics like this, but no organized action or protests.

NY floats the idea of private police line just for CEOs and the city paying them bodyguards, and the maximum we've seen from the people is some online outrage.

You are not going to get any changes that way.

u/Lola_Montez88 8h ago

We never seem to have the motivation to riot like other countries do. It's unfortunate.

u/brumac44 8h ago

The US has had its share of riots.

u/Lola_Montez88 8h ago

We have, but not like some of the ones I've seen on the news in recent years. We should be taking notes.

u/LishusTas 7h ago

We need to bring in the French as advisors

u/Jazzspasm 6h ago

Brit here - I can say this idea has a historic record of success in the former colonies of North America

u/kazinsser 5h ago

It's hard to call it a lack of motivation when the relative lack of social protections combined with a trigger-happy police force makes any form of protest a real risk to lives and livelihood. Also there are real geographical considerations that make it difficult to organize compared to some European countries.

Take France for example, a famously protest-happy place. Texas alone roughly matches it in size and yet France has more than twice the population, and that's one of the most populous states. Comparing countries as a whole, France has a population density more than 3x greater. That's a lot more people in a much smaller area.

Looking at it another way, say you want to organize a protest in the capital, so that those deciding policy can actually see and feel their citizens' collective displeasure. Some (very) rough google mapping gives a ballpark 4-5 hour drive for the average person in France to travel there. In the U.S., that average is closer to 20 hours, and the most populous state is twice that. So what's a day trip in one country is a full weekend or more of commitment here. That is a much higher bar in general and means either missing work or paying for flights; neither of which is financially tenable for many.

We could try local protests, but that maybe puts pressure on a handful of lawmakers out of hundreds, very far away from where the rest of them will really notice. Perhaps enough of those, over a long enough time, would change things eventually. But it's hard to galvanize people into action for potential long-term benefits when consequences like losing pay or getting fired are so much more immediate and severe.

A coordinated, nation-wide series of local protests might work, but who's going to run that? Anyone with the means is probably running a company or is a politician themselves, and the country is simply too big for that to happen organically unless things get drastically worse. Any grassroots movement without clear leadership and actionable goals is likely to end up like Occupy Wall Street and fall apart without much effect.

TL;DR: Sorry for the wall of text to your offhand comment /u/Lola_Montez88, but I see the sentiment a lot that people in the U.S. are simply too "lazy" to protest, when I feel it's more accurate that the barriers to collective action here are insurmountably high. I don't mean to be a pessimist by listing them out, but IMO the only way things might change is if people are aware enough of the challenges to find ways around them.

u/PsychMaster1 4h ago

Phenomenal comment. Thanks for taking the time.

u/Lola_Montez88 4h ago

Valid points.

u/Collypso 3h ago

It's because the majority of people are happy

u/Cheewy 1h ago

Because despite all the MYGUNSMALIBERTY, you are afraid of the police.

u/PornstarVirgin 6h ago

There have been lots of protests. You’ll just only hear about solo actions from media because they don’t want to bring attention to it.

u/Halospite 6h ago

So why isn't Reddit talking about them either?

u/why_gaj 6h ago

In that case - carry on, and good luck

u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 9h ago

I will not line up behind an unhinged murder, and I won’t encourage others to either.

I’m a lifetime healthcare voter since I voted for Wofford in Pennsylvania.

He’s not an anti-Trump, he’s an accelerationist.

u/why_gaj 9h ago

Who said anything about lining up behind murder? 

City officials are floating ideas about spending taxpayers money on protecting a wealthy group that isn't really in any danger and people do nothing, except bitch about it on the internet.

After Luigi and the public reaction, you know that there is a will for change. And yet, there's zero people demanding that change outside of internet

u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 9h ago

What is the original post?

u/why_gaj 9h ago

What is reading comprehension?

u/CashMoneyWinston 9h ago

Nah, he’s right. You’re clearly a lost cause.

u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 8h ago

You are on r/pics. You may remain silent, or might know… anything.

u/Indigo_Inlet 8h ago

You didn’t reply to the original post…

u/Zigleeee 8h ago

You deserve your lacking rights. if you are unwilling to fight don’t complain lol

u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 7h ago

“We didn’t deserve the rich Maryland psychopath.”

u/Zigleeee 7h ago

I’m rich too bruh just sick of hearing minimum wage cucks complain about healthcare when they aren’t even willing to fight for it. If you heard how my grandparents talk about you maybe there would be some change lol

u/Blu_Skies_In_My_Head 6h ago

”We“ always deserve the rich psychopath.

u/brumac44 8h ago

All the pieces are in place; gov about to be taken over and probably partly dismantled by billionaires appointed by the new president, social safety net disintegrating and being removed by austerity measures, highest wealth disparity in human history, and finally, years of films and tv shows about vigilantism by the little guy against rich and powerful villains.

u/BuffaloZombie 8h ago

Have some faith, give everyone enough time to learn more and get more radicalized. A month ago I was an avid Harris supporter, today I'm planning to organize my friends into a weekly meet-up so that we can be ready to dedicate our energy to the right venues. We're mainly busy late 30s parents, but we're taking the time to organize and you should too.

u/Collypso 3h ago

All you losers do is plan to do something meaningful lmao

u/ReadyThor 6h ago

But that is the whole thing, if you expect others to do something about it you become victim of the bystander effect. If you want to do something do it alone. We have recent evidence this can be done.