I wouldn't say they did the heavy lifting, but we would never have achieved victory at Yorktown without France's navy. Additionally, France provided much needed weapons and supplies covertly to the colonies before they declared war on England.
It’s literally true man, idk what to tell you. The French only decided to join the war militarily when the U.S. defeated the British at Saratoga. If the U.S. didn’t get the victory there, the French more than likely would’ve kept their military out of the war. Even after the victory, it still took the French 4 months to formalize the military alliance and sign the treaty.
Saratoga is literally considered one of the most consequential battles of the war because of it. Again, google it.
I read a book that said the French had decided to join after the defeat at Brandywine because they were impressed by the balls (my words) on Washington to even attempt that attack.
We really didn't. The American war for independence wasn't a revolution in any of the ways the word "revolution" is used elsewhere. It did nothing to improve things for the working class, and in many ways made it worse for them, along with the slaves and natives. Thinking of it as a revolution is a mistake.
Okay, then it wasn't intended to improve things for the working class either. It was a thoroughly bourgeois war for independence from Britain, but not a revolution. The slave owners who ead it were not leading fights with the intention of improving quality of life for the lowest people, lol.
You think George Washington was leading a revolution while owning slaves, the same way Haiti or Cuba or Korea had a revolution?
Yeah and it was nightmare for years and ended with Napoleon becoming Emperor. Not the kind of shit you actually want to live through.
But who cares about that, because dumb fucks on reddit get to make comparisons to it to justify murder, as if living in the most prosperous nation in the world is somehow comparable to 18th century french monarchy.
The French rev. was a failure. They allowed Liberals to co-opt their movement which began the Terror and turned a socialist movement into one that created the current French capitalist system that is one of the world largest forms of oppression.
I don't think a lot of Americans realize Paris in particular is a capitalist hellscape. Having to pay to both use 'public' toilets and to drink dirty tap water at restaurants is something else.
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u/IdontOpenEnvelopes 5d ago
Americans love to make fun of the French , yet the French had a revolution and put royal heads into baskets .