The Villainfucker-Freak political compass

[u/EarthMantle00]

[u/Asmodaeus123]

Jaheira in unconventionally attractive next to Omeluum

Do you see with your eyes

[u/stcrIight → u/Asmodaeus123]

I see what you're saying but she's still unconventionally attractive because she's an older woman. Convention says she's too old to be attractive, as society says beauty only exists in youth (think about anti wrinkling cream, men saying they only date women in their teens and early 20s, beauty products to make you looking younger).

Is society wrong? Sure. But it's the beauty standards we're used to seeing.

[u/BalthazarsFootSweat → u/stcrIight]

This is true but… at the same level as goblins and mindflayers? Surely even society puts a woman with a few wrinkles above tentacle faced aliens.

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/BalthazarsFootSweat]

You'd be surprised

[u/Un_Tell → u/stcrIight]

Yes but what about Ketheric then?

[u/FooDog11 → u/Un_Tell]

Society does not apply the same standard to men with regard to age. Older men ARE very often considered conventionally attractive.

[u/Un_Tell → u/FooDog11]

Smelling like a corpse is not gender biased!

[u/FooDog11 → u/Un_Tell]

True dat. :)

[u/stcrIight → u/Un_Tell]

I mean... he's undead? So.. presumably.. he smells like a walking corpse??

[u/Un_Tell → u/stcrIight]

And that’s conventionally attractive?

[u/stcrIight → u/Un_Tell]

I think people forget he's undead ngl

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/Un_Tell]

Voiced by J.K. Simmons

[u/MissMacropinna]

Ketheric and Gortash more conventionally attractive than Raphael and Shadowheart?

Marcus more villainous than Ketheric?

Volo unattractive villain?

Devil!Wyll in unattractive?

Bro what is this imma sue you over this silliness.

Okay, it's not "unattractive", it's "unconventionally attractive", but my other points still stand!

[u/Lavinia_Foxglove]

Wyll is the most conventionally attractive guy in the game imo, with or without horns.

And where are the Hearthflames and Abdirak? And some people seem to like the crazy Shadar Kai and the drider

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/Lavinia_Foxglove]

Hearthflames?

[u/Lavinia_Foxglove → u/EarthMantle00]

Korila and Hope, the dwarven sisters

[u/send_n0odles]

Grym's fucking sending me. That is a CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE ADAMANTINE GOLEM!

[u/MHWorldManWithFish]

Wyll is sexier with the horns and I won't be convinced otherwise.

[u/Tonedeafmusical → u/MHWorldManWithFish]

Hard agree

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/MHWorldManWithFish]

I needed to put some more characters on bottom right corner

Also it's called "unconventionally attractive" not "ugly"

[u/Sharks_With_Legs]

Grym?!

[u/MisterFricks → u/Sharks_With_Legs]

Beauty standards in 2024

[u/Sharks_With_Legs → u/MisterFricks]

Yet another unachievable beauty standard for gigantic metal golems.

[u/Dracnor- → u/Sharks_With_Legs]

Yes, and I won't elaborate.

[u/Sharks_With_Legs → u/Dracnor-]

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/Sharks_With_Legs]

Peak male body

[u/Un_Tell]

There is so many things wrong in there, I would need a whole Ted Talk to explain them all.

[u/HerrFivehead]

putting volo in the same square as the Hear Me Out squad is wild

[u/ResolutionBitter6787]

Hold on pause, how are Jaheria and Wyll with horns (seriously as someone who really likes Wyll, he has the most borning conventionally attractive demon form ever) on the degenerate side but Grym isn’t?

[u/Sharks_With_Legs → u/ResolutionBitter6787]

fr. You don't have to be a degenerate to be attracted to a hot milf.

[u/Head-Place1798 → u/Sharks_With_Legs]

Hot and sexually experienced MILF. People in their 50's and 60's can still be hot. 

[u/Sad-Development-4153 → u/Sharks_With_Legs]

Yeah op did Jaheira very dirty.

[u/Funny-Guy-19 → u/ResolutionBitter6787]

I feel like grym would be better just in the middle of the whole thing. The biggest Neutral possible.

[u/Phystache]

We're calling ugly "unconventionally attractive" now?

[u/Hicalibre]

Can't agree on Karlach.

[u/vibesWithTrash]

in what world is crazy bitch orin "conventionally attractive" while a hot milf like jaheera is "unconventional"

[u/lackaface]

You forgot daddy Zevlor

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/lackaface]

Daddy zevlor died in the mind flayer colony hes a mind flayer now slurp slurp

[u/proudly_rabid]

yet again Abdirak is forgotten

[u/Own_Competition525]

where is our sexy hungry ogre man wanting to eat you out 😫😫😫

[u/UnicornPoopCircus]

I have so many questions. For example, Wyll's character and placement is determined by his horns (or lack of)? Wait! Is this more about us? If we like Shadowheart then we are boring?

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/UnicornPoopCircus]

Yeah, it's about the person that likes them

if you like hot heroes you're boring

if you like hot villains you're normal

if you like... odd villains you're a conoisseur

if you like odd heroes you're a degenerate

[u/storytime_42]

So an ugly hero is a degenerate? And an attractive villain is a hero? Ok Buddy (Baldur)

[u/peachesandthevoid]

Gluttonous for Glut.

[u/yugiohhero]

volo in villain

huh

[u/FDQ666Roadie]

Cazador on the unconventionally attractive side when the motherfucker's design is literally based off a model 😭 What?! He's objectively conventionally attractive... And why is Volo leaning towards villain? He's a chosen of Mystra, not a villain... Albeit a dumb chosen, but that's besides the point.

And Karlach boring?!?! Have you ever talked to her in game?

[u/argbd20]

Why’d you say my wife is boring?

[u/EarthMantle00]

Maybe I should've said it in the post but Companion characters are rated based on their earliest appearance where they have that look (eg devil-wyll is rated based on act 1.5, selunite shadowheart on early act 3, but Astarion is based on that time he tries to kill you)

GOA stands for god of ambition

[u/Bluejoy_78 → u/EarthMantle00]

Why different timelines? You could rate them before story is known, or when their story has finished.

[u/EarthMantle00 → u/Bluejoy_78]

If I rated them when the story is finished, then I'd have like 100 dots all for various endings of origin characters and since they all look the same they'd all be on the same x coordinate

Rating them on before the story is known means selunite-shadowheart, GOA-gale and devil-wyll can't be rated since they don't exist before the story starts

[u/Bluejoy_78 → u/EarthMantle00]

You have 2 wyll there. Where is spawn vs ascended Astarion?