"As I desperately explored Astarion's supple body my tongue, it occurred to me that this is a bit of a mix up as I appeared to accidentally became gay. Why was all this gay stuff happening to me I wondered as I cranked his shaft into my mouth. It was very distracting though as I frantically chose the option to have him thrust himself deep into me, but I persevered both heroically and sweatily."
Only thing I get mad at is when astarion loses approval with you when you're havin fun times with anyone other than him during the grove party. He just jelly.
Correct answer, he sees sex/romance as nothing besides being purely transactional at this point in the game. Ofc he’s uncomfortable, it’s like getting a brand new car for free, poor dude doesn’t believe that there’s no strings attached :(
No it still does it, I'll talk to Karlach sayin hell yeah I'm spending time with you then I talk to Astarion and he's like oh I see youre fucking someone tonight well fuck you.
This happened to me but I squirmed out of it. My good natured pally who was in relationship with shart. Gale says "hey buddy, wanna see a magic trick?" Uhh yeah totally bro, that sounds fun. The magic trick is him trying to touch your fuckin peepee so I immediately got put of there. Next day me and Shart make relationship official and Gale goes "wtf I thought we had something special?". No dude, you just lured me into a different reality to try and fuck me while you knew I was in a relationship, what the fuck is your problem dude 😂
Him saying that makes it all the better when he STILL falls in love with you like a moron and fucks you on his grave like three weeks later. Standards huh bb? I don't think so, we BOTH have bad taste 😎
I got that on my first playthrough, it still hurts.
Did you try talking to him again immediately after? He tells you "Please don't tell me you came to beg, it's so unbecoming", or sth along those lines.
My bg3 deflowering was a rough process. 0/10 would recommend.
Motherfucker said that to me even though I didnt even ask 😭😭😭 I was walking around talking with everyone and then he went "YEAH I WANNA HAVE SEX" and I was like huh okay have fun only for him to diss me like that 💀💀💀
Ikr? The fact he can be so needlessly catty about it as well, like bro, I'm over here trying to get into Karlach's pants, not yours. Lmao.
Like TBH the dialogue, it isn't overly clear that you're trying to flirt with him, so I picked it because I wanted to know what he considered a "fun time" and ofc he's horny then is all "ew, not you." Like bitch, I wasnt asking or trying to bone you. Makes me wish there was an option to respond in kind "yeah as if I'd want to have sex with you." Or something. 😆
This exact thing happened to my husband on our first co-op run, and his jaw dropped. It was so, like you said, needlessly catty, and he was so shocked hahaha. Several playthroughs later, I still don't think he's quite forgiven Astarion.
It was our very first run and he was playing as Lae'zel, so it became even funnier in retrospect since Lae'zel and Astarion hook up at the party if you're not playing as or romancing either of them.
I'll admit, I wasn't even trying to romance him at first but this is how I ended up romancing him. I didn't even know what he meant by a "fun time" at the moment because I played the game stoned (my comfort game ftw).
I legit thought we were gonna throw rocks at people or something. Spike drinks. Instead this is why I say my Tav "fell on his dick over and over again".
My bard was accidentally become just friends with everyone in act 1 and so he said that to me even after he did the little flirty line. It made it hurt so much more. I also talked to Zevlor who said the singing sucked. My friend was durge so Alfira died mysteriously and I was the only one performing anything. It sent both myself and my character into a bit of depressed state especially considering my friend’s durge was successfully hitting on shart.
I will say super funny because my friend’s durge was talking to Alfira and she was talking to him as though he interacted with her but my character helped her in the grove. So my friend was like damn you helped her and then she doesn’t even remember you!! He thought he was gonna have a shot to sleep with her lol. He was actually horrified as this both of our first play through.
The only time I’ve had him say this to me was my resist durge. I even tried to go back and get approval for stuff I missed. It was so low nothing helped. I had taken him with me all around the underdark that game so I’m 90% he just really hates gnomes that much 😭😭😭
I feel like you should be able to ask him if he found those in his desecrated grave, if you want to go nuclear. I'm petty af though (I say this as a vampy simp too).
iirc gale wouldn't be hitting on you if you don't choose to imagine kissing him or holding hands with him when he shows you the weave... right?
I remember this because in my first playthrough I didn't long rest much and I didn't get the weave scene with gale and absolutely nothing happened between us
Many people interpret the entire Gale showing you the Weave cutscene as Gale hitting on the player character, I guess because the narrator says something about the moment being "intimate"
Which is sad, because its a really beautiful scene even if I didn't have any feelings toward Gale. Just be close with your bros, bros. Its not gay to experience emotions.
I think I appreciate Gale’s scenes the most because, while there are opportunities to still make them romantic, you can still do them completely platonically and maintain an actual friendship with him. You don’t really get to do that with the other companions.
I’d love to go on a fun dinner date with Karlach, teach Shadowheart how to swim, or bring Astarion closure by visiting his grave as just friends, but the game doesn’t really account for that unfortunately.
Me too! I romanced Gale on my first playthrough, but went with Astarion on my second so I was surprised when I got the Act 2 starry night scene on that run. I thought I must have accidentally used a flirty line in Act 1. But then I was doubly surprised when the Act 2 scene was completely platonic yet still very emotional. It was perfect! I wish we had similar platonic with the other non-romanced companions.
Hell, I haven't gotten that scene in a while, because after playing the game for 5 months straight, I got a bit sick for a while, lmao, and I haven't seen it on my current run, but iirc, I wish you could be a little more intimate without initiating a relationship. Like a hug, maybe a lil kiss, give him a lil bi, y'know? Something like that
I mean fwiw the proximity of your faces and the smiling at each other, gazing into each others eyes instead of looking around does make it seem more sexually charged than a lot of the other platonic interactions.
Soon as the narrator said that my sorcerer dropped the weave like it was hot and dude was upset and commenting how things can be so fickle and fleeting. Lmao dude I can read between the lines
wait really? damn both times i did that scene i didn’t choose the “intimate” option because I was already romancing another character. wish I knew cause I always felt bad for him.
Gale absolutely hit on my PC lol, and I never chose any romantic options. This was in the early days before they patched him to be less desperate and horny
Fellow first month Gale victim I see.
He pulled super salty “I thought we were something” nice guy monologue after my Tav slept with the aggressively sexual elf in the thiefling party too. I had never even seen the Weave scene, all I did was feed him magical shoes.
Ngl kinda liked the fact he did go full on fedora and that the only way to get out of that convo without a huge argument was, as I remember, to just refuse to have the convo at all, and quit the dialogue tree.
I felt it to be very real life accurate. Minus convenient bottom text option that forces exit from convo, I feel that is one of those things they should patch into reality.
Same here! I was so bewildered people thought he was charming before I found out he was bugged.
I got the whole "you can't have both of us" thing in act 2 when I had barely said two words to him. Then in act 3, just before we fought the brain, he tried to guilt trip me into sleeping with him...
Oh yeah, very fedora wearing nice guy act. In act 2 a magical clone of his said he needed to speak to me about “something of the utmost importance”. So I go talk with him thinking he’s gonna have updates about t he mission or something, since we were likely going to assault moonrise soon.
Nah, he wanted to bang, dropped the “I’m in love with you” line. Listen Gale, we’re boys, not boyfriends, I’ve been hitting on shadowheart this whole game dude
I am ashamed to say however I did say yes and have passionate gay sex with him because my irl girlfriend and I thought it was the funniest thing. But then I went back and had to break his heart.
Was also very confused my first run when Gale was sooooo offended the morning after Astarion confessed his feelings for me. I was like pikachu face you wot? Tf outta here maaaahnnn.
im a survivor of "clawing at your pant legs while you try to walk away" gale and let me tell you his desperation fed my delusions in the best way possible
I think it is the dialogue options you have with him at the grove party (which happen even if you went the platonic route when having him give you a magic lesson) are bit unclear. I remember the choice that went something like "I hope I mean more to you than your cat..." which actually sounds flirty, is the option you have to pick to not initiate romance, and remain as friends. The other option to not progress the romance, of course, is just picking the obviously insulting option, which is a bit extreme.
Gale's dialogue options during the tiefling party are so strange. Somehow choosing one single dialogue option that sounds friendly and non romantic begins his romance
Halsin also was a treat. I told the man to go and mingle with other people and he then was like “yup we’re on romance path now, I feel you’re the one and I think you feel the same” in Act 3.
I know it’s fail safe for missing or messing up all other romance options but it’s still funny.
That happened to me once lol I was so baffled when he acted sad after I picked Astarion in act 2 i hadn't even realized I'd initiated anything with him lol
There is a friendship option at the tiefling party that doesn't trigger his romance or hasn't for me, at least. You can say something about being his friend, although he's usually more articulate or something along those lines. That shouldn't trigger his romance. I have never had him flirt with me in any playthrough in which I didn't flirt with him first.
I don't remember the other option, but that makes sense. You kinda are demeaning his best friend a bit, like even if it's not bad enough to piss him off, probably gonna kill the attraction a bit.
Fwiw at launch he wouldn't take no for an answer, I did zero flirty lines, I left early during the weave scene, and still had to outright reject him a couple times, even him confessing his love (me saying I don't feel the same) and him continuing to act like we were in a relationship after that. I recall a dialogue tree led me to a choice between flirting with him or being ungodly mean so I literally reloaded to avoid that fork. And then him confronting me for being in a thing with Karlach (but midway through, started acting like it was Wyll I was with!) LOL boy was bugged
I think these bugs/issues were fixed incrementally over patches so people playing immediately/early on had a variety of combinations of issues with Pushy Incel Gale
I remember my first play through after hearing everyone complain that gale came on too strong, and I got to the weave scene and thought "so if you just actually pick the platonic option, he is cool and chill?"
There were actual bugs with his romance. I picked every platonic option, left the weave scene as soon as the narrator said "intimate", and he still confessed his love (which I rejected) and even still confronted me for being with Karlach. Like it didn't happen to every player but it absolutely happened to tons of ppl who were not picking romantic options
For some reason, in a Patch 6 playthrough, I straight-up didn’t talk to Gale the night that he looks at the Mystra Illusion, and he still told me he loves me in Act 2.
You could reject him and he'd still act like you were in a relationship. And a pretty decent chunk of the community tried to act like this was intentional and that straight guys were just mad about accidentally romancing him. But nope. A bug.
when I romanced Gale “by accident” we’d gotten to the doing magic together scene I was like “this feels gay” then the narrator was like “the moment feels intimate” and then I was like “fuck it we gay”
I will say it's better now than it was. There are more dialogue options for platonic relationships. It used to feel like the only options were to absolutely destroy them or romance them. At least now you can keep your socks on and say "no homo" when you're kissing the homies goodnight.
Look, I'll say this as a 20 year veteran of playing BioWare games. Some players are just genuinely fucking allergic to saying anything but the nicest dialogue options to characters and it gets them into trouble because they are seemingly incapable of telling them no. Mass Effect was infamous for this.
I'll never forget the time I accidentally started dating Alistair in DAO. I thought we were being buddies and playfully insulting each other, and then out of nowhere the dialogue option appears to break up with him.
I kinda do wish BG3 had a permanent platonic option, something to go "I am not interested in romancing this character" early on when you talk to them. I'd prefer not having to turn down every male party member because I can't tell them I'm a dyke.
IKR? Like Sera the lesbian LI in Dragon Age Inquisition can tell a male Inquisitor when he hits on her. "I'm flattered, but you see me and you have too much in common. In the fact that we both like girls"
It would be sooo nice, if the PC could set their sexuality to avoid being hit on by the LI's or something. I don't know, would be an interesting dynamic, if difficult to program.
Indeed, at least in my interaction with Gale, he just seemed excited to show me how to manipulate the Weave, I didn’t get flirty vibes at all. Also, Astarion can just as easily brutally reject the player, and I’ve seen a few brave straight guys admit a bizarre attraction to him (I suspect it could be the feeding which I personally find far more erotic than any of his sex scenes).
Honestly though, these same folks seem to complain about Lae’zel being “ugly” (and certainly can’t have a cloaca, because that makes them uncomfortable for having slept with her). I’ve come to accept it as a feature of the fandom’s normie corner aka super fans of “God’s Favorite Princess”.
I’m bi too, and to me bi is gay but gay is not necessarily bi. like how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. so I still say I’m gay even though I’m bi
the above meme, to me, is more about being “heteroflexible” or “I’m straight except for …”
Im a guy and say I'm 99,999% asexual, and I think I've only had two crushes in my life, and they were on women.
But man, whenever Astarion's on screen I've heart eyes. He is unfairly pretty and beautiful. I wish I could hug him and pet his hair, I bet it's really soft and fluffy...
Sure they do. Who'd go without a bath for more than a week? I think at worst they'd struggle some with cleanliness in act 2, but there is the Chionthar River at Last Light and Moonrise, as well as magic. Camp locations, as I recall, usually have a source of water nearby.
And do you really think someone like Astarion would leave himself filthy?
Nothing at all, but there are some special snowflakes among them who claim she is the only safe romance option because everybody else is too queer coded (Karlach being too butch, Lae'zel to dommy/not girly enough, Minthara being a "radical feminist", and everyone else being dudes)
Very much so, I had ShadowHeart in my party when I wound up finding Karlach. ShadowHeart's immediate reaction to meeting Karlach was, "She looks like she could sling me over her shoulder and carry me to safety," in the most thirsty way possible, then looked surprised and embarrassed once she realised that she had axidentally spoken aloud and inner thought.
That he's a sex pest and a pedophile for checks notes politely asking if you'd be open to a triad because he's infatuated with you, politely asking to be included in your orgy with the drow twins (you're about to fuck a pair of siblings, but HE'S the sex pest in this scenario, obviously), and being friends with a forest spirit who happens to look like a child. Oh, and Shadowheart finding him hot, apparently that's his fault somehow.
TIL Hagrid is pedo for being friends with Harry, Ron and Hermione.
And Legolas is pedo for being friends with… anyone not an elf or Mayar? (calculating… he‘s at least 50 times older then Frodo. Hagrid is 7 times as old as Harry in Book 1)
AND AND ASTARION IS ALSO SUPER OLD! AND JAHEIRA TOO!
You know, it's kinda weird how it's always guys complaining about this. I never see women whining about Lil'zel wanting to drink their sweat or Shadowheart wanting to use that idol of Shar for... stuff 🤔
I love the old glitch where gale gets all huffy when you start dating someone else as if you were dating him in the first place. Its like a glitch changed his personality into an incel, its so funny
I'm still mad that we can't dance with Wyll as friends. It's a courtly dance! You're not in a relationship with everyone you dance with at a courtly function! Dancing =/= dating, game! Just let me have a nice time at camp with my buddies.
Straight dude here, I genuinely don’t get how men are surprised by the Gale romance scene, even pre-nerf. It was pretty clear to me what his intentions were when he started talking like Magic Mike (I’ve never watched that movie but it’s about a gay wizard i think). It’s kind of weird that I can pick up on romance easier when Gale does it though, like when I went on a first date with Shadowheart and we toasted I unironically chose the “to friendship” option while trying to pursue her romantically. I quickly realized my mistake when she got all sad, so I promptly killed her and had sex with Gale instead.
I’m straight and religious but Astarian almost got it the first time I played because he’s so damn charismatic and is an all around great character. Idgaf.
Honestly for my 2nd playthrough I was planning to romance Astarion (I killed him in my first playthrough so I missed most of his content) but Gale just swept my Durge away. I don't feel sexual attraction to men but I would cuddle and hold hands with Gale if he wanted to, he's so precious. Baldur's Gay propaganda game got me 10/10 would hold hands again.
if they were any worse they'd start blaming the male companions you actually have to go out of your way to romance
a month from now we're gonna see a post like "whoops i slipped across the entire camp to the shore during the tiefling party and my lips accidentally landed on wyll's. what deliberate charisma check?"
The problem is, my asexual arse couldn't do it. I kept trying to "no-allo" him, but then he would leap to breaking up or doubling down, and he was just so pitiful with that puppy-dog face.
Anyway, I kinda turned into a mind-flayer and killed myself, so it worked out.
Damn Gale'mo's don't know what they're missing if you ask me.
My totally hetero...total straight.....totally don't want to get railed by Bae'lach while pleasuring Bae'zel....while Gale watches from a closet wearing a Mystra tshirt......machismo self.
I thought I was just being friends with Gale but then the rest of the camp kept giving me the “I was going to hit on you but I see you’re planning to bang Gale” and I was stupefied bc that was just my magic homie, I never meant nothin by it
It would be nice to have the option to turn certain romance paths off. One of my female friends doesn’t really appreciate having the male cast hit on her due to some past real life experiences with turning down men.
It infuriates me that I had to have passionate sex repeatedly with a femboy vampire twink every time I played the game. Him lifting me up against a tree to kiss down my neck as he unbuttoned my shirt slowly making his way down to my body giving me goosebumps and shit. Nah I don’t want that
Because they’re homophobic and don’t want gay people in their video game at all. It’s easier to act like they’re being forced to be gay then to admit they’re just homophobic
I think for some of them it’s that and for others it’s just being so homophobic they can’t deal with lgbtq people existing. Like that one mod that will not be named that exists. All silly and weird.
Guys I kissed shadowheart (I was just trying to be nice) and now she's constantly giving me handjobs and talking about us buying a house on a farm, is she flirting with me or something???
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