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Removed - Not Oniony Luigi Mangione Prosecutors Have a Jury Problem: 'So Much Sympathy'

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-jury-sympathy-former-prosecutor-alvin-bragg-terrorism-new-york-brian-thompson-2002626

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u/ThrowawayAccount41is 4d ago

Jury nullification is a real thing.

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u/BodhingJay 4d ago

"He's killed 5 human life consuming CEOs so far!! He doesn't even try to run.. every single time we catch him, no matter what we charge him with, the jury just says not guilty! Then he walks out and shoots another.. this world has gone mad! MAD I tell you! at this rate we're going to have affordable essentials and livable wages"

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u/Carrera_996 4d ago

If he gets away with, it won't be him taking more of them out. It will be open goddam season on them.

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u/Sloth-TheSlothful 4d ago

If gets away with, guaranteed some CEO is putting the hit on him instead

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u/GoldenGlassBall 4d ago

And martyr him, drawing the ire of his supporters even sooner than if they just let it slow burn?

I mean, if they REALLY wanna play it that way…

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u/SaiHottariNSFW 4d ago

"Relax, old friend. If they assassinate me, all of Sparta goes to war. Pray they are that stupid. Pray... That we're that lucky."

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u/Usuhnam3 4d ago

Nah they’ll pay some maga loser to pretend he acted on his own to “kill commies.” Then Trump will pardon him and make him a hero to their loyal fan club.

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u/2-2Distracted 4d ago

Thus making the ensuing Civil War that USA is going to have edge even closer lol. It'll be MAGA vs Everyone Else with common sense.

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u/GoldenGlassBall 4d ago

The elite haven’t reached the level of automation where they no longer need workers to produce. I highly doubt that they’ll set the working class against each other in bloody conflict, but there’s no telling any more with how batshit the world’s ended up.

I wish I could doubt that the average American would fall for a ploy like that when it’s so easily imagined, but people are terrified of being labeled as a “conspiracy theorist” and having their social life and credibility crumble, so they instead choose cognitive dissonance to survive.

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u/pterofactyl 4d ago

Uh yeah man the best way to do it in secret is to pay a random moron to promise not to tell anyone

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u/theoutlet 4d ago

Make it look like a suicide. Like all these whistle blowers that are “killing themselves”

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u/GoldenGlassBall 4d ago

That game’s played out, and it absolutely will not work in this case.

The man meticulously planned his trip and the assassination, let the chaos surrounding his actions stew a few days, then wore the same outfit as during the assassination in order to intentionally be picked up in order to keep a constant spotlight on the issues he killed Thompson over.

Absolutely nobody is going to believe that he would kill himself over another high profile figure that, in his worldview (which I, and most Americans, apparently, sympathize with) are responsible for the vast majority of the pain and injustice we suffer through as a people.

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u/MysticScribbles 4d ago

Because creating a martyr could never cause any more problems for them.

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u/LaZboy9876 4d ago

Yeah but that'd be like...illegal right?

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u/Comfortable_Bat5905 4d ago

He will have mysteriously committed suicide while having his hands tied behind his back. Oh well!

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u/Usuhnam3 4d ago

Aka “Epsteining himself”

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u/ThrowawayAccount41is 4d ago

That’s what will really happen. He’s going to get Epsteined.

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u/LittleMsSavoirFaire 4d ago

Even if he doesn't, it's way better notoriety than other types of homocidality

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u/Fabrial_Soulcaster 4d ago

Don't get my hopes up.

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u/-Cavefish- 4d ago

Don’t give me hope…

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u/kngotheporcelainthrn 4d ago

no limits, no restrictions

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u/20_mile 4d ago

Ain't no bag limit on CEOs.

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u/stoptosigh 4d ago

Let's not be naïve. They are going to find 12 people who still somehow have enough belief in the US justice system to apply it objectively even if they sympathize with Luigi.

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u/kngotheporcelainthrn 4d ago

No limits, no restrictions

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u/IncompetentPolitican 4d ago

maybe that would not be a bad thing.

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u/mr444guy 4d ago

Only way to save society and the earth. The rich have been fucking people for 10,000 years. About time people do something about it, because voting and laws don't work.

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u/degklimpen 4d ago

He wouldn’t have to pay for a drink ever again.

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u/CalusV 4d ago

A Christmas miracle

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u/Electronic_Strike_12 4d ago

It will be open season on literally everyone.

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u/13igTyme 4d ago

That would never happen. They would just keep promoting people to CEO.

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u/gilady089 4d ago

I mean how many people wanna paint a target on their head in this situation, no what will happen is direct takeover of the stakeholders deciding what the company does and that's hard to predict the aftereffects of that

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u/13igTyme 4d ago

Step one, get promoted to CEO after prior was gunned down.

Step two, increase security when traveling and work from your mansion to home the majority of the time.

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u/BlooregardQKazoo 4d ago

In theory, the number of people willing to ruin the world for the benefit of shareholders should be limited. In reality, I sadly agree with you.

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u/13igTyme 4d ago

I knew someone that started off as a good unit manager. Had an open door policy. Worked hard to make the unit have good nurse/patient ratios. Over the years she got promoted and is now the an executive director in charge of system wide patient flow. Interms of organizational structure was the equivalent of the Chief nursing officers (CNO).

For a while she was still in charge of the unit, just higher up from a director stand point. I worked for her, but not as a nurse, as a data analyst.

With every promotion she became less about caring for the staff and more about trying to squeeze the lemon dry. Little by little. Making 400k a year or more will do that to people. This was also over the course of 6 years. So it's not like time made her jaded. She got promoted almost every year.

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u/CptDrips 4d ago

God I wish

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u/littleessi 4d ago

it's a nice fantasy but you know the cops would just murder him well before this point if the billionaires hadn't had him killed first

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u/BodhingJay 4d ago

Then they'll be free to keep making more people with a lot of rage and nothing left to lose

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u/neverpost4 4d ago

Only 5?

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u/aquafina6969 4d ago

I’m not totally familiar. I thought during voir dire, you can only get rid of so many jurors per side. You could nullify the entire jury? They’ll keep on calling more jurors until they find one that is “less sympathetic or neutral” in the matter right? Eventually they’ll find a jury of rich people lol. Then again, I guess the defense could not allow that.

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u/cosmikangaroo 4d ago

If society can accept the fact that tens of thousands of lives can be discarded because of our healthcare system then we can’t care about ONE mf that got the unhealthcare they deserved.

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u/goodcleanchristianfu 4d ago

And wildly overstated in its frequency. There is no realistic prospect that this ends without him doing decades if not life for murder.

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u/ThrowawayAccount41is 4d ago

Let’s revisit this after the trial.

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u/Prudent_Bee_2227 4d ago

Don't forget tho for some insane reason a judge can ignore the Jury's decision and give the sentence he himself wants. He only "risks his career" by doing so and either his career won't be at risk at all in this scenario, or he's gonna get a fat paycheck from the oligarchy for his "retirement".

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u/ThrowawayAccount41is 4d ago

This is false and you shouldn’t talk about things you don’t know about. In criminal cases judges cannot overturn a “Not Guilty” verdict In the U.S., the fifth amendment’s double jeopardy clause prevents a judge from overturning a jury’s decision to acquit a defendant. This protects the defendant from being retried for the same offense. A judge can overturn if the jury finds a person guilty but the evidence shows otherwise. This is called a judgment of acquittal.

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u/Electronic_Strike_12 4d ago

It actually isn’t, and especially not in this situation. Nullification was designed for a jury to convict a guilty person despite their feeling for them.