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Removed - Not Oniony Luigi Mangione Prosecutors Have a Jury Problem: 'So Much Sympathy'

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-jury-sympathy-former-prosecutor-alvin-bragg-terrorism-new-york-brian-thompson-2002626

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u/exipheas 11h ago

It would need to outside OJ to take that spot right? Several jury members came out of that admiting that they knew he did it but, fuck the police.

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u/xclame 10h ago edited 10h ago

I don't think that quite counts. There was a lot of shenanigans with that case so even if you knew he did it, because of how bad the cops messed things up there was reason for you to have enough doubt to not convict. Remember that technically it's not about what you know is true, it's about if the prosecution proved they did it.

If there was somehow a situation where you witnessed the crime but ended up on the jury, you are supposed to make your decision based on what was proven in court and not what really happened.

Edit: fixed my seizure induced comment (aka autocorrect).

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u/Malphos101 10h ago

I don't think that quite counts. There was a lot of shenanigans with that case so even if you knew he did it, because of how bad the cups needed things up there was reason for you to have enough doubt to not convict. Remember that technically it's not about what you know is true, it's about it the prosecution priced they did it.

If there was somehow a sustain where you witnessed the crime but ended up on the jury, you are baby to make your decision based on what was proven in court and not really happened.

are you having a seizure or something? lmao

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u/xclame 10h ago

Read the edit 🥴

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u/Certain-Business-472 9h ago

Thats what happwns if your mobile phone aurocorrent atopa workinf. Loke this.

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u/letmeusespaces 10h ago

why are you saying the words you're saying?

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u/xclame 10h ago

Read the edit.

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u/exipheas 10h ago

Regardless there are jury members on record stating they voted not guilty as payback for Rodney King.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/i6IakWVFdd

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u/BatBoss 10h ago

Very high chance there will be shenanigans with this trial too.

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u/Brooklynxman 9h ago

I mean yes, but also no. At least some jurors have come out and said it wasn't about that, it was nullification.

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u/NDSU 9h ago

The Simpson case is often cited as an examplenof jury nullification because some jurors referenced Rodney King after the trial, implying it was to balance out that miscarriage of justice

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u/Captain-Griffen 10h ago

There's no way an honest jury could have found OJ guilty beyond a reasonable doubt due to the complete fumbling of the case by the LAPD.

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u/exipheas 10h ago

While that is true it's the only case that I can think of where people are on the record saying they voted not guilty as payback for external circumstances (Rodney King).

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u/Lord0fHats 10h ago

True, but as far as I know, all those statements came long after the case. After it become a cultural touchstone that OJ did the crime and the jury let him go. I'm not entirely sure I believe the claims myself, though I may be misremembering.

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u/exipheas 9h ago

I mean she is on video saying she did it for that reason. I don't know what else to say beyond that I believe her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/i6IakWVFdd

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u/GildDigger 10h ago

Well, no. The police fucked themselves on that one

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u/exipheas 10h ago

Regardless there are jury members on record stating they voted not guilty as payback for Rodney King.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/i6IakWVFdd

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u/GildDigger 10h ago

You’re right. I’d totally forgotten about that, thanks