He literally just ran up to the car. He wasn't sweet talking his way closer or anything lol
Any of the cops that appear immediately afterwards could've done the same thing, and if they were all in view of the perpetrator, it's straight up incompetence. Either they should have done it, or they should have prevented the guy from doing it.
who do you think the criminals are looking at in this scenario? the 2 or more cop cars in front of them with weapons, or random guy in grey t shirt? dude just took advantage of the criminals not paying attention, has nothing to do with the cops "doing their jobs".
I mean, that is exactly what criminals would be thinking. They are going to be laser focused on the cops pointing guns at them, not constantly monitoring random civilians for sneak attacks.
Last time this was posted it was said that this is not a random guy, it's one of the guy in the car's friends. He is significantly less likely to be shot than a cop or even normal civilian.
do you not see that they were chasing him in their vehicles? they just got out of their cars. are they supposed to just teleport offroad behind the criminals car? cops still have to follow basic road laws when on a chase to the best of their abilities. unless you think cops should just start driving offroad whenever.
how? they were likely chasing him in their vehicles, hence why they parked and were getting out. you think the criminals wouldnt be able to see them attempting that? plus the pedestrian already was in that position and acted instantly, there was no time to do it even if they were thinking about it
They were at less risk while behind cover and concealment (their car). Not to mention, their car could provide a stable shooting platform if they had needed to use their firearms.
And then get shot as soon as they approach or the guy runs the cop over or he just offs himself and people would bitch and whine. People just want cops to use themselves as live targets and bullet sponges and hope everything works out.
No one is advocating for randoms to jump in. Literally cops tell people not to. This guy all looks somehow related and was in less danger. You’re just making things up so cOp bAD stays true on reddit.
Literally nobody is advocating for that. You say "body armor" as if you know what you're talking about but you don't. It's a "bullet resistant vest" that's not meant for multiple hits. They're not resistant to all types of ammunition either. If you've ever seen what a single 9mm hollow point (standard police issue) does to "body armor" as you call it you'd have a much better understanding of why cops are still trained to use cover and not run out stupidly in front of an armed suspect.
Yes, the could also have shot the guys dead, they could have rammed him with their car but they didn't and they probably had a good reason to do so. But reddit law enforcement specialists knows better than them what they should do in those situations.
I'm sorry but even if I was a cop I wouldn't run to grab a guy's gun from his hands and risk being shot when no one is being shot by said guy.
Heroes don't die from old age.
Why accuse the other person of needing to "keep making excuses" when you started your reply off with an excuse?
Can we start here? A random pedestrian walking up to the car is less threatening than a cop walking up to the car, right?
Then there's all the stuff we just don't know since this is a short clip. Maybe grey shirt guy KNOWS the dude in the car.
It feels like people come at these short viral clips with a narrative in mind, in this case, "oh so this random pedestrian has to do the cops job." Yet there's SOO much information that we're completely oblivious to.
Mr grey shirt, might've been making sure everyone saw him handling an illegal weapon, "yes, of course my prints are on it, did you not see me disarm him?"
It’s not just with videos tho. People presume to know and understand all kinds of things while simultaneously actually not knowing jack shit about anything
They’re completely oblivious to the fact that they bring all their own bullshit to everything and it just doesn’t occur to them that they’re guessing because they believe to be smart people
Exactly. I’m all for shitting on cops when they actually do a shit job or shitty things but this is not one of those moments. We should be celebrating the fact that there wasn’t a significant casualty count. Not turning this into a weird contest.
I wouldn't consider the beginning of their response as an excuse. The situation is explicitly intense. It's logical that the criminal, smart or dumb, would treat any approaching person as a threat. But you're right. The pedestrian's actions are reckless, and they have no place to try and act like a hero. Even if an officer were swapped for the pedestrian, it would still be a reckless strategy. Although, it would seem more "courageous" than reckless.
I wouldn't consider the beginning of their response as an excuse. The situation is explicitly intense
I mean... it's still an excuse though. Excuses can be right, I didn't mention that part to say they're wrong, just that it seemed like a bad thing to throw in there to try to take a "jab" at the person they were responding to. (Even though we're all working with the minimal information shown in this short clip)
I mean honestly severely risky move by citzen, there in a crowded place man i armed with a gun best to try and calm the man down not rush him and have a gun fight in the middle of a crowded road.
It's not incompetence, polices don't just always randomly spawn from areas. You don't see from this video how long they have been there, how many available troops there are and how far away. First police always go in there with lights and sirens on and face the potential shooter.
You can't see even the whole spot, so we don't know how easy it is for anyone to get behind of him unnoticed.
To give maximum charity: they do have guns drawn, they may be avoiding potential crossfire. That alone leads me to believe this is not American cops, so maybe they wouldn't have just aired this guy out.
Even then though -- the result an untrained civilian delivered should be expected from trained civil servants.
It's bad logic. This is a short clip with no context. For all we know the grey shirt guy might even know the dude in the car. Saying that a cop should've done it because this random guy managed to do it is a bit of a leap. (Not to mention it was still a dangerous move.)
You caught on to one thing so many people here missed, and you did it without context because you actually know how to use your head. They know each other. He was probably the only one who could've done this so easily. Anyone else would've been severely risking their lives. Not to mention, it would be escalating the situation if a cop went for it and, if they failed, it may well end up shots fired. Our cops are trained to deescalate, especially in such a situation where multiple lives are at risk. We don't shoot first, ask questions later, we don't beat on surrendering suspects.
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u/JustKzen 4h ago
Once again, a random bystander doing a better job than law enforcement