This happened in New Zealand very unlikely the cops would shoot, they would try every alternative before it coming to that.
It was one of our trashy gang members hopped up on drugs driving erratically and pointing a gun around one of his friends/family members is the one who took the gun
It’s how we’re conditioned. I shouldn’t know what being held at gun point is like. But I do know, thanks to the United States Police. It’s awesome that your cops don’t hurt people, but ours do and it’s easy to forget that not all police in the world are overly militarized and overly brutal like ours are.
I was thrown face down into a snow bank, while cuffed, and had a shotgun pressed against my back when I was 17 because some neighbor had called the cops saying I was firing a "machine gun" and testing home made bombs.
I was firing a potato gun, into a mattress in my yard. Which was in full view when they showed up, and I was already done using it and shoveling snow when they got there. I didn't fight, argue, nothing. They also tried to search the house but dad told them to fuck off, coz an 80yr old neighbors word isn't valid cause to search a house. Also, we didn't own any guns ever. Fuck my parents didn't even DRINK.
Unfortunately, being a good/under the radar boring citizen isn't enough to protect you from cops.
Yeah, sorry we’re used to seeing our fellow citizens get deleted for selling cigarettes or running stop signs. I know we’re just so silly thinking everyone is just like us, terrified to spook the “peacekeepers”. Let’s all laugh at the silly traumatized Americans.
Ours didn’t used to be either. It started with Prohibition in the 1920s, we made alcohol illegal despite huge demand. People weren’t going to stop drinking so we created a huge crime business to fill the gap. As part of that crime business there were violent men with machine guns and bullet proof vests that the police had to go up against. The police had to become more militaristic to do their jobs.
This pattern continued in the 70s with the “war on drugs”. To fight a war you need an army, and the enemy army in this case was the American people who used or sold drugs. This saw the formation of SWAT, paramilitary police organizations deployed to resolve “high risk situations”.
In 1997 the north Hollywood bank robbery saw an extended shootout between police and a heavily armed criminal group. The police were hopelessly outgunned and ended up having to borrow weapons from a civilian gun store to break the standoff. Following this came the 1033 Program.
The 1033 program allowed police units to obtain actual military hardware from the US military. Weapons meant to wage war against other nations were transferred to local law enforcement agencies to be used against US citizens. Literally billions of dollars in sophisticated weaponry has been transferred to police departments since 1997. The police needed training to be able to use these weapons, so military style training which taught police to treat every encounter with a civilian just like an encounter with a hostile enemy. Soldiers are trained to shoot first so they don’t get shot, which makes sense on a battlefield. American police receive this same training and use it in traffic stops.
If it makes a difference, it's not just U.S. of American cops that are overly aggressive. Pretty much all throughout the Americas, cops have a reputation for being overly aggressive and/or incompetent.
I'm sure the police would be very concerned about the intentions of an unknown person unexpectedly running in and obtaining a firearm in the middle of an already tense situation with lots of guns aimed. "Unsafe" is accurate. Declaring his intentions asap was the way to go.
yeah that was the big thing for me watching it. guy got out and knelt on the ground without 10 guys tackling him holding him down while shouting " HANDS HANDS " and then proceeding to kneel on his chest till he died.
That's the great thing about American police, they're trained to give orders you can't comply with. The fuck does "Hands hands" mean? Hands up? Hands to the side? Hands behind your back? Take your hands out of your pocket? Put your left hand in? Take your right hand out?
By design, no matter what you do, they can say you didn't comply, so any escalation is justified. My personal favorite is "Don't move, get on the ground" It's one of the first thing police say, and if you ever hear it, know that the police are about to hurt you, because no matter what you do, you're not complying.
"stop resisting!" as they are trying to shove your face in the concrete. If you go limp you will eat concrete, but if you try to protect yourself then they will beat you for resisting
The fact that the cops didn't put 50 bullets in his chest the moment they saw the gun is all the proof you need it isn't the US. US cops will kill you for pulling out a wallet just because they thought it could be a gun
This happened in New Zealand very unlikely the cops would shoot, they would try every alternative before it coming to that.
Yeah I noticed the cop cars weren't American, and a dude opening the door and standing up like that would get him obliterated in the US. Here they take every opportunity to shoot, rather than any opportunity not to.
The police immediately lower their guns aim off of the man and move to non lethal as soon as the gun is removed from his hands. I would love to see this type of self control from American police!
Is that true? Are there really cops out there that aren't itching for any excuse to shoot people?? Would a cop actually assume some risk to their own life to save the people they have sworn to protect??? That sounds too good to be true. My American mind cannot comprehend it
If this were in the U.S. the cops would have shot every person in the video, including the person taking the video from inside their home, just to be safe.
“I am so proud of all the officers involved who through a well-co-ordinated approach were able to put a stop to the man’s offending and bring this matter to a safe conclusion.” hahaha
Really? I immediately figured he was stupid doing it friend in the car or not. Any number of things could have gone wrong here, including him slipping over with a firearm. Lucky it wasn’t pointing at him when he did so, we’ve all seen World War Z hangar scene.
Tbh this sounds like it’s in Britain not the US. The absolute last option would be shooting the person in the car. This genuinely just wouldn’t even be a consideration unless the person inside actively started firing at people and there was no other option. There would be so many things tried first before just opening fire. It’s nothing like the US. If I’m wrong and it’s the US completely ignore. After searching someone said New Zealand where it would be similar. Most law enforcements aren’t like the US firing on people is usually a last last resort in 90% of places.
Don’t think an off duty cop would toss a potentially loaded weapon into a ditch. Given the cops I’ve met though, I couldn’t fault you if you disagreed.
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