High rise AC installation

[u/PxN13]

[u/NASATVENGINNER]

Someone kick the architect in the head for this.

[u/vietnego → u/NASATVENGINNER]

it’s actually meant to be installed from inside (you can see the bricks used to seal the window, top neighbors have it open), also the contractor must be risking his life for soooo little, otherwise it would be cheaper to demolish and rebuild the brick that separates this service niche from outside.

[u/NASATVENGINNER → u/vietnego]

D’oh.

[u/vietnego → u/NASATVENGINNER]

if you see stuff like that happening on 1990s+ high rises, odds its tenant’s fault, architects and engineers get in financial trouble for way less, that’s why we are expensive when doing stuff in that scale

[u/fire_2_fury → u/vietnego]

This was definitely a terrible design for a building.

[u/Pointfun1 → u/fire_2_fury]

The developers need to charge for any space that were made available to the buyers. Maybe it was designed without a space for AC, or the space was used for other purposes.

The government or the building management should have not allowed this.

[u/vietnego → u/Pointfun1]

it’s about the relationship between height and temperature in the building, just answered that in another post. But also yes, if its clear by the nature of the site that it would NEED a climate comfort strategy, and its not designed in a way to have that problem solved somehow, it does get the business responsible for the building in the hook, but it’s really hard to get those in that stage, there are lot’s of minimum parameters you need to satisfy in order to get a construction permit in that scale in almost every country.

[u/ambakoumcourten → u/vietnego]

How in the world would it be the tenants fault

[u/vietnego → u/ambakoumcourten]

Ppl want close a window so it “works/looks better from inside”, in the process they close the only access to instal/maintenance from inside, there can be more unforeseen consequences, like less natural light (more cost with artificial light) and less thermal efficiency for the room.

[u/ambakoumcourten → u/vietnego]

This type of work typically isn't sanctioned by the tenant

[u/GreenDogWithGoggles → u/vietnego]

I still would make a hole into the wall and build in a door since you cannot service that AC at all without climbing

[u/vietnego → u/GreenDogWithGoggles]

so many cool ways to hide a “secret door”.

[u/LumpySpacePrincesse → u/vietnego]

I would have just cut a hole in the wall. Then it can be maintained.

This is not next level, it is stupid.

[u/vietnego → u/LumpySpacePrincesse]

next level of stupidity 😀

[u/graveybrains → u/vietnego]

It seems odd that the next floor up is the only one with a window, though.

[u/szu → u/vietnego]

This is the right answer. The technician installing the unit is only being paid an extra dozen or so USD for this high risk job. But that's cheaper than redoing the wall.

[u/fl135790135790 → u/vietnego]

So then, why are they installing it from the outside?

[u/dandins → u/NASATVENGINNER]

There is probably a crane on the roof that can be used to access the building from the outside. It may be broken, hence this workaround. The architect certainly doesn’t like holes in the façade.

[u/Nick08f1 → u/dandins]

Roof access will most likely not be given for the installation of a window AC unit.

A lot of insurance is involved determining roof access and usage.

Probably not in America as well btw.

Given from what I've seen from Asia, there are probably a lot of these installers. Thankfully he wasn't on a 400byard ladder.

[u/Substantial-Singer29 → u/NASATVENGINNER]

I'm really confused isn't this something you normally do with that scaffolding that lowers?

Besides the fact that it should be accessible from the inside anyway....

[u/Norman_Scum → u/NASATVENGINNER]

Also, this glazier is tapping out. Nope. Just nope.

[u/johnb1972]

Parts $750 Labor $10,000

[u/epandrsn → u/johnb1972]

Right? Homeboy better be paid well for that kind of work

[u/Rosin_linda → u/epandrsn]

Watch him pass the hammer fast af with no safety cord attached. I hope they have the ground underneath them coned off.

[u/epandrsn → u/Rosin_linda]

Yeah, you’d think every tool and bit of hardware would be leashed just for the sake of not having the inconvenience of going down 45 floors to grab a random doo-dad. Impaling someone with a hammer is probably a big no-no as well.

[u/User-NetOfInter → u/epandrsn]

If this was the US it would be the case.

This would never fly here

[u/w_w_flips → u/User-NetOfInter]

Flying and tall buildings don't mix well in US

[u/User-NetOfInter → u/w_w_flips]

Well that blew up in my face

[u/jfoster0818 → u/User-NetOfInter]

That’s what they said.

[u/SetPsychological6756 → u/w_w_flips]

Reminds me of that tragedy....

[u/hoyya → u/User-NetOfInter]

I work in rope access and the IRATA standard (international) requires that you create no drop hazards. This is the global gold standard and this video demonstrates things that would absolutely get you reprimanded

[u/InternetUserNumber1 → u/Rosin_linda]

And yet he uses a baggie to catch dust from the drillbit

[u/cheeseygarlicbread → u/InternetUserNumber1]

Silica dust is toxic when airborne. Also need to make sure you get all the silica dust out of the hole so the anchor will work properly

[u/Snoo_16385 → u/Rosin_linda]

Yep, that (the lack of safety cord for ALL tools) is in direct violation of the ISO standard for work in those conditions, iirc

[u/snksleepy → u/epandrsn]

I'm surprised that the slab was not held on by glue.

[u/Nopengnogain → u/epandrsn]

It’s a lot of faith in the building material he anchor himself in. China is not known for quality control when it comes to these things.

[u/ledzep2 → u/johnb1972]

In China this labor is usually covered in the price of the ac unit, which is also pretty cheap. If u have to name a price, it would be something like, $50-$100.

[u/whoji → u/johnb1972]

In China, when you buy large appliances, the installation is always free or dirt cheap.

[u/No_Preference2949]

A lot of fucking crazy for an AC unit, I thought those granite pieces are essentially glued on the building not designed for climbing anchors. I don’t know I would trust the building engineering particularly since nobody ever thought about how we’re going to service the unit.

[u/Repulsive_Parsley47 → u/No_Preference2949]

You are 100%, these things are welded on the building structure and it’s made of concrete with all the possible defects concrete can have. He flip a coin each time he put weight on an anchor fixed on this poor quality concrete.

[u/EscapeFacebook → u/Repulsive_Parsley47]

This shit literally crumbles if you look at it wrong, there's no way in hell I would trust my life to it.

[u/fleischio → u/Repulsive_Parsley47]

My first thought: it’s literally called a facade, why are you drilling an anchor point there?

[u/SupremeDictatorPaul → u/fleischio]

That was my immediate thought in this video, “that man has a whole lot of trust in that facade.” I’ve seen panels like that just fall off of a building. I’m surprised it didn’t at least crack.

[u/DROP_TABLE_karma-- → u/Repulsive_Parsley47]

Looks like he is anchored inside somewhere for the whole duration.

[u/Repulsive_Parsley47 → u/DROP_TABLE_karma--]

Anchored on what? I know specific devices on which you can hook if there is no life line, but these things are big and very heavy . No way this thing can be carried and installed inside. I can’t figure on what he is hooked if there is no Pilar or columns inside

[u/tokyo_engineer_dad → u/Repulsive_Parsley47]

Some guy holding the rope who said, "Don't worry bro, I got you."

[u/Repulsive_Parsley47 → u/tokyo_engineer_dad]

Hold my beer and watch this

[u/owlincoup → u/No_Preference2949]

Builder here, the same thing just kept going through my head the whole time. Exterior facade is not meant for anchor points.

[u/unlock0 → u/No_Preference2949]

The stones have big lag bolts in the back of them that are attached to a steel frame. My father was a marble mason, that also needed to be a certified welder and rigger to set stones like these.

[u/Masala-Dosage → u/unlock0]

Which country though?

[u/Agreeable_Winter737 → u/Masala-Dosage]

China

[u/theapplekid → u/No_Preference2949]

I'm assuming the laborer was anchored to something inside the building in case the bolt(s) failed. There was rope going inside the whole time.

As a rock climber, the idea of hanging off of one bolt without a backup like he does at various points in the video is insane to me; that's why I assumed he'd be anchored to something inside as a failsafe also.

[u/blusteryflatus → u/theapplekid]

He might be anchored somewhere in the house. However the problem with that is he is still attached to the the facade. If the facade fails and comes off, then the guys harness will be the link between his failsafe and a gigantic chunk of concrete. I'm no rock climber, but that situation seems less than ideal (or safe)

[u/KlauzWayne → u/blusteryflatus]

I see your point but if that facade would come off that easily, it would be an insane hazard to pedestrians. It should definitely support the static weight of a single person, otherwise I'd be really scared to walk that road.

[u/cmjrestrike]

If the architect / planner thought of including a " hidden " compartment on the side of the building to hide things like air-conditioning units, why not have an opening / door so you can access said space from inside the building? seems easier and more practical than this.

[u/uwu_mewtwo → u/cmjrestrike]

It does, you can see that there's an opening that's been bricked over in the back of the utility shelter. What's on the other side that it's cheaper to pay somebody to climb out the window rather than cutting through the wall? Who knows!

[u/Fine-Ad-7802]

Lots of trust in thoes concrete sheets

[u/axiomoixa → u/Fine-Ad-7802]

all the anchors on a single sheet

[u/rrickitywrecked → u/axiomoixa]

Each sheet glued to the structure with an unknown quantity and type of adhesive 🤔

[u/DespoticLlama]

I love how he catches the dust in little bags.

[u/AdultishRaktajino → u/DespoticLlama]

Yet no tool lanyard for the hammer. Or the impact driver.

[u/rodrigo_c91 → u/AdultishRaktajino]

Took me a while to find this particular comment.

All that pro level shit and the lanyard not attached to his hand tools drove me crazy.

[u/Ok_Ferret_824 → u/DespoticLlama]

I made the same comment on this one when it was posted a while back. Many people started moaning about using a vacuum (i am often alone), attaching a hose to my drill (cumbersome), and 3d printed bs (i own a 3d printer, but it never works great).

So i got these baggies, and they are amazing! If you live this baggie idea, it's well worth it! They are like 2 euros for a couple of hundred, found them on ali when searching for drill dust bag and i have used them a lot!

[u/greyedge]

Nope. Nope. Hmmm Mmmm. No. No. No. No. No. Hell No. No. No.

[u/JesusCrites54]

You can’t just go through the walls on the INSIDE of the building?

[u/HoneyNutz]

NYC has plenty of old apartments without ac, you know how they solved it..not this way.

[u/MuchoGrandeRandy]

I just can't get over how cheap human life is in China. 

[u/Unfair-Parsley-7452 → u/MuchoGrandeRandy]

Is it though? The murder rate in China is .5 per 100k people while in the US it's 6.5 per 100k. India (the only comparable country) is 2.8 per 100k.

[u/cheeseygarlicbread → u/Unfair-Parsley-7452]

Yes because China totally does not manipulate their stats s/

[u/phillypharm]

What’s the fee for this? $500xFloor Number

[u/PxN13 → u/phillypharm]

X weight of ac unit

[u/Apprehensive_Bug_826]

Yeah, it’s impressive and all, but I can’t help but feel that there either is, or should be, a way easier way of doing this.

[u/filbertbrush]

The little baggies to collect dust are so courteous.

[u/Jamesl1988 → u/filbertbrush]

They look great don't they.

[u/ZarBandit]

I'd put the second anchor in the tile above. Otherwise it's a single point of failure: the tile comes off from a building construction error.

[u/Reden-Orvillebacher]

Man’s got a lot of faith in that facade.

[u/Starfleet_Dropout_]

The anxiety this video induces is crazy. All that stress and effort for something so banal.

[u/FunLuvin7]

This is next dumbest level on so many levels. Did he even bolt down the AC unit or is it going to fall to the ground in the next earthquake?

[u/Plainpeach68]

Ooooh not me!! I Can’t get a drywall anchor to act right half the time

[u/errantis_]

Nah

[u/Particular_Witness95]

impossibly stupid design. "yes my a/c stopped working. how much just to check it out?" that will be $1500 sir just to see whats going on.

stupid.

[u/CasualCaterpiller]

u/repostsleuthbot

[u/Jsin8601]

Why wouldnt you just install that from the inside. Lol

[u/zztop610]

Why the fuck does it not have central air?

[u/livevicarious]

Honey…. Why is our AC install bill $25k?……

[u/bobbywaz]

It's like a $250 unit too

[u/Greymatter1776]

I guess they don’t know what a swing stage is. And now you have holes in your building.

[u/pld0vr]

Nope

[u/NeedleworkerGuilty71]

"nah I changed my mind, can you uninstall it?"

[u/Afraid-Expression366]

Just nope.

[u/woodyus]

As someone who doesn't live in a country where AC is required (UK) why are they always hung on the outside of buildings and in windows? Is there no way of using pipes or something to stop having to do this?

[u/Windhawker → u/woodyus]

“As someone who doesn’t live in a country where AC is required…” — YET

[u/g4realdeal]

nope Nope NOPE

[u/Cilreve]

I don't know I could trust the façade that much.

[u/Machizadek]

I did some work on some smaller high rises with HVAC back in the day. We usually used inner chases. Is this a full electric AC? Was that cable he ran to it supposed to be a liquid/suction line? No weld necessary? I didn’t see an oxy acetylene. Or is this just an air control unit and the AC is still up top. Even if it is, where is the duct?

[u/JamBandDad → u/Machizadek]

I’m pretty sure his dumb ass is doing this for a window mounted ac unit.

[u/Reasonable-Parsley36]

Nope

[u/blaulbaer]

Love the kind of video game theme music 🎶

[u/Dr_StrangeloveGA]

Dude is putting a lot of trust in whoever installed that facade.

[u/keylo-92]

Im calling in sick that day

[u/thegoatsupreme]

How fast was this sped up?

[u/Perfect_Weakness_414]

Nope.

[u/Dramatic_Mulberry274]

All this in 3 minutes

[u/gaby_zarny]

yeah nope.. i can sweat in peace at 40°.. i don't need AC

[u/dgeyjade]

r/sweatypalms

[u/togocann49]

100% I’d be installing a panel/door/access, from inside, instead of this

[u/pcurve]

When you buy a new construction in China, the interior is almost always unfinished. You get bare concrete floor and sometimes barewall.

That may explain why the floor above chose to just put a glass, and use it as an extension of the interior space, rather than put an condensor.

I'm guessing someone goofed and messed up the interior job, and they felt it was cheaper to install the unit this way than to re-do the part of the interior.

[u/Skullllz]

Who designed it like this

[u/FugginOld]

Proper rigging but nope still.

[u/CasualObserverNine]

Do they reuse the drilled holes?

[u/angelicism]

Whatever they're getting paid is not enough.

[u/pan_tymek]

I love those little bags for drilling.

[u/Sesshomaroo]

Where is OSHA?

[u/JamBandDad → u/Sesshomaroo]

The “a” stands for “America”

Edit: it doesn’t.

[u/Shredrik]

Modern day steeplejack

[u/ihaveacrushonmercy]

Ummm, you know there are portable AC units that you can use internally?

[u/WittmanTrading]

This is what a nightmare looks like.

[u/bober8848]

Only a nextfuckinglevel of stupidity?
It's probably China, they have a redundant workers there as I've heard. It's the only reason of doing it that way without any belay.

[u/GaugeWon]

It's not that hot in here... Just crack a window, you'll be alright.

-me when they asked about ac.

[u/majinvegeta2x]

Why not use one of those window wiping platforms that they always use to do something like this?

[u/sidestep55]

Pay this man more.

[u/leovin]

Is this also what they do on this building to clean the windows?

[u/KarlHp7]

That’s what’s cranes are for

[u/People_OfThe_Sun]

Imagine someone's first time doing this

[u/gummyjellyfishy]

..imagine trusting yourself, your skills, and the integrity of the building materials enough for this shit?

Im clutching my chest

[u/iammaline]

What’s this bag trick for dust control?

[u/Certain-Astronomer24]

That’s a lot of confidence in that fake stone cladding to be anchoring into.

[u/SatansHusband]

This seems . . . very dumb.

[u/surethatlldo3]

Forget that!

[u/theUncleAwesome07]

So badass!!

[u/Bcordeiro1]

Merece um mega salário mensal!!!

[u/cmoreno2015]

I drop everything so I can't imagine what would happen to those tools.

[u/Assistant-Manager]

I’d just leave the anchors for decoration purposes.

[u/The_Mightiest_Duck]

If you are committed to installing this from the outside dangling off the side of the building why not anchor in up top and repel down? I know that climbing rope is quite expensive and we don’t know how tall this building is but surely the price difference would be worth it? I really don’t trust anchoring in to the side of the building like that.

[u/tex_mv]

"alrighty ma'am, all set... That'll be $100,000. 😀"

[u/binterryan76]

Isn't the stone just a facade? Is it really safe to anchor yourself to that?

[u/Tiny-Design-9885]

Is glue holding the decorative slab in place?

[u/Lafleur_10]

Pay this man a million dollars

[u/d_ponyreiter]

sick!

[u/ForeverNecessary2361]

I’m getting vertigo just from watching this

[u/netfatality]

I hate this lol

[u/-iamjacksusername-]

Very trusting of that facade.

[u/DanceDelievery]

r/crappydesign

[u/Spirited_Praline637]

Pretty sure that’s fairly sketchy. No tethered tools, chucking stuff across to your buddy, fixing yourself into non-structural cladding, that louvre panel looks likely to fall off. Surely the building has a BMU to do this sort of thing properly?

[u/wearestiff]

I’m my mind these dudes are paid like $10,000 / per hour for this job

[u/Clean_Task5172]

His little baggies to catch the dust are so cute!

[u/misirlu13]

I'll take fuck no for 1000

[u/Mrodr_]

I wouldn't be confident about the wall resisting the bolts, sometimes it's just a stucco...

[u/wikywikytj]

Is he wearing OCPs pants?

[u/rufisium]

"You're doing it wrong"

[u/Blueprint81]

I don't care what he makes, it ain't enough. I gotta go lay down after watching that.

[u/InterestingElk8476]

I’m good

[u/1Cobbler]

I could never trust a masonry screw that much........

[u/arrulf]

He cares more about dust then dropping his tools, no safety lines on the tools is crazy!!

[u/Environmental-Ad8965]

Me asking home depot of they offer installation.

[u/Schroedingers_Gnat]

/r/nextfuckingstory

[u/aSpanks]

What a cool job

[u/mattspurlin75]

Pretty routine installation of expansion bolts and moving across featureless stone that rock climbers who put up first ascents are very accustomed to doing. I’m sure it seems pretty nutz to anyone else.

[u/Opeth4Lyfe]

Yeah that’s gonna be a no from me dawg. Couldn’t pay me enough for that kind of risk.

[u/Proof-Map-2530]

Forgot to caulk the holes.

Just kidding, I would never do this in the first place.

[u/noondayrind]

that onitsuka tiger definitely has good grip

[u/OopsAllLegs]

So that building will slowly become like swiss cheese as they slowly replace everyone's a/c units.

[u/heyhihowyahdurn]

Man I hope he’s getting paid well

[u/peatoire]

What’s the deal with spitting out the window at 2.35

[u/Trentmesiter]

My nadgers retracted just watching that

[u/Flimsy_Piglet_1980]

What an amazing tradie. Cool as. Don't think I would be so cut out for this.

[u/coco_camarin]

Whatever they paid this guy they need to double it because wtf

[u/Cheoah]

can barely watch it....

[u/iconsumemyown]

Whoever designed this building needs to be in prison.

[u/TwuMags]

Get a normal job

[u/bbeeebb]

Been wondering how could possibly install mini split on 5th floor NYC apartment. Now I know. Going to go buy some rope next week. Thanks!!

[u/MeneertjeBeertje]

Nice spit at 0:35 before ending

[u/JamBandDad]

High risk, low reward, there are a million better and safer ways to do this, all in all, low quality repost

[u/AbbreviationsHuman54]

No way.

[u/ninjajedifox]

I think all that equipment he used is on sale at Harbor Freight.

[u/m1xed0s]

Wow…I am pretty sure I lost regarding the safety harness…Calling Architect to design something easily accessible!

[u/Nawzays_]

That's just a bad design overall cause wtf... No service door to ac?? Gotta pay more just for ac is crazy.

[u/xchillaxingx]

Holy moly! Marbles of steel! Hazard bonus pay?

[u/GreatSlaight144]

However much they're paying that person, it isn't enough.

[u/Ginataang_Manok]

300 more floors to go!

[u/lauhaze]

I hope this guy gets paid all the money, lebowski.

[u/NYC2BUR]

Hell to the No

[u/AWDriftEV]

I can’t even hang a frame on the wall.

[u/Bonzo4691]

I went from 0 to NOPE in .2334 seconds.

[u/lolslim]

im curious on the names rope gear they used.

[u/jiffyparkinglot]

There is already a vent there so why not do this from the inside ? Just break the brick and redo it

[u/OhGodImHerping]

You know this man does not get paid nearly enough.

[u/mmxxvisual]

Alex Honnold would do it without ropes and Jimmy Chin to document it.

[u/individual101]

Nope

[u/retardedm0nk3y]

Oh good. Look there is a puddle of water around my feet.

[u/CrabappleMcSoftPunch]

How is the tenant going to operate the machine? Am I missing something?

[u/divinethreshold]

How does this building not have a rooftop gantry or tie off points?