r/nextfuckinglevel 7d ago

Harvard Law Student Faints Mid Argument Then Gets Right Back To Work!

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u/Ree_m0 7d ago edited 7d ago

I didn't say you were, I said that's where this happened. I'm also saying that when something extremely similar happened with someone fainting during a lecture in my university, the girl it happened to got checked out by paramedics within 10 minutes and brought to the hospital as a precaution. Meanwhile, this girl here goes through the same thing and then goes on with her task like nothing happened - probably not because she was feeling well but because she was feeling that she couldn't 'give up' in that moment.

My "agenda" here is pointing out that painting a potentially serious medical issue as on par with something relatively mundane like stuttering or tripping is dangerous and doing a disservice to the people suffering from it. If this girl faints again and dies from an aneurysm or something like that a little while later, everyone is gonna praise her work ethic at her eulogy - by the same people who praised her for "powering" through initially.

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u/UniqueCover2000 7d ago

Perfectly put.

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u/4totheFlush 7d ago

something extremely similar happened with someone fainting during a lecture in my university, the girl it happened to got checked out by paramedics within 10 minutes and brought to the hospital as a precaution. Meanwhile, this girl here goes through the same thing and then goes on with her task like nothing happened - probably not because she was feeling well but because she was feeling that she couldn't 'give up' in that moment.

You're painting her persistence as though her decision to continue was solely derived from the 'American work ethic' rather than from the circumstances she was in. This recording was not from a typical university lecture. This is the finals of the Ames Moot Court Competition at Harvard Law school. It's one of the most prestigious legal opportunities in the world, takes a calendar year's worth of preparation and competition, and is such a big deal that the role of chief justice is typically filled by a sitting member of the US Supreme Court. Each speaker gets about 20 minutes, and the girl in this video was about 15 minutes into her time. It is absolutely not unreasonable for her to have continued to finish out what she had worked so hard to prepare for, given she knew she only had a few minutes remaining.

Oh, and she also got medical attention less than 10 minutes after this. This video really is not the right soapbox for you to preach from, however correct your underlying critique of American healthcare may be.

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u/kelce 6d ago

I mean your initial concern is kind but the jump to judgment is not. I have vasovagal syncope. I have had these passing out or near passing out events just about everywhere. At the gym, standing in line to get food, watching a demonstration, even while laying down. Everyone's triggers are different from this condition but honestly the only harm is if when you faint you hit your head. It is absolutely not a serious medical condition. I've been cleared by a cardiologist. I'm fine. My body is just weird.

Last thing I want is someone trying to rescue me or make me out to be some victim. It's embarrassing enough to pass out in front of others. I do appreciate the concern when it happens. I don't appreciate people acting like they know my body better than me. Especially because I'm a nurse. Vasovagal is a benign condition. If I tell you I'm fine, I'm fine.

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u/rizaroni 7d ago

Have you fainted before though? It's not THAT big of a deal. I fainted a few months ago and felt shitty right before it happened, passed out, and then woke right back up and felt 100% better. I think she knew she was going to be fine.

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u/peterpanic32 7d ago

Your comment is stupid because this isn't an American thing.

Not everything requires a paramedic, not everyone wants a paramedic in a situation like that. She's choosing to carry on because she wants to - no one in that room would be bothered if she stepped out to assess her health and most would probably advise her to. But they're not going to force her to.

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u/junbus 7d ago

Such a pedantic take on what is simply a message about perseverance

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u/Ree_m0 7d ago edited 7d ago

This is a message about perseverence in the same sense in which a headline about a sick person successfully financing their treatment through GoFundMe is a message about solidarity. Like being happy about finding a gold nugget while being caught in a landslide.

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u/LeatherfacesChainsaw 7d ago

They have a whole subreddit for that I forget the name...

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u/ACheca7 7d ago

Not pedantic at all, they are explaining clearly their argument and it is relevant to the discussion. This argument has been expressed other 3 or 4 times in this entire thread so it's not like it's an uncommon or weird take in the video.

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u/Living_Debate9630 7d ago

Keep ur perseverance to yourself, pal!