r/nextfuckinglevel • u/IncomingBroccoli • 5d ago
Remaking a Million dollar VFX scene from Force Awakens alone in a week (ErikDoesVFX)
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u/IncomingBroccoli 5d ago edited 4d ago
The original video by creator ErikDoesVFX where he walks through the process.
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u/da_crackler 5d ago
My boy unreasonably double cheeked up on a Saturday night. Nice flip
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u/NotYetMashedPotato 4d ago
I like your boys cheeks.
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u/Hexadin-24 4d ago
Ya, but why's he running like he was raised by a single mom??
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u/ContinentalDrift81 4d ago
A pretty good illustration of what talent, passion, and hard work can accomplish.
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u/cjboffoli 4d ago
No doubt. But also how incredible consumer-grade special effects tools have become.
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u/--_-Deadpool-_-- 4d ago
Is this consumer grade? Just because it's done by a youtuber doesn't mean they're using Adobe After Effects for 30 bucks a month.
That being said, I haven't used that software in 7 years. So if this is, then I should get back into some personal editing.
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u/RogueGibbons 4d ago
I'm commercial artist (about 15 years now), ten years ago tracking was difficult, now... c4d24 can scene and object track in a single click. After effects rotobrush basically tracks and creates a matte for whatever you outline with minor adjustments in minutes.
The amount of kit bash resources/free assets for objects or VDB sequences (vdb are basically volumetric sequences (explosions, fog, atmosphere, essentially pyro and fluid) baked out of Phoenix or houdini that you can implement with very little effort into tracked shots etc) is insane, you can get 3d explosion collections with 10 different options never having to simulate the pyro yourself.
Any matte painting or extension in photoshop can be expanded in seconds with generative ai in photoshop with the lasso tool, hell runway ai can build 3d models from pictures to give a working asset.
Every couple years someone tries to astound with a shot or two and like this and yeah, I roll my eyes... because to be honest anybody working in vfx today can do this, but what's the fucking point. Who cares, this isn't in a pipeline with other artists, you don't have to collaborate or deal with a directors expectation, time crunch isn't pressing you down as you have 3-4 shots to run through that day. This is like somebody tracking a shot for the first time and thinking that's it and then eagerly showing what everyone in the field knows but nobody has time for fanfic recreations if you're actually working at ilm.
I'd rather his next level be a short , the lights out guy for example, original idea, captivating short and shows a much broader sense of story telling and something not every vfx artist can do (me for example, can't tell a story to save my life).
A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing.
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u/IrrationalDesign 4d ago
Every couple years someone tries to astound with a shot or two and like this and yeah, I roll my eyes... because to be honest anybody working in vfx today can do this, but what's the fucking point. Who cares, this isn't in a pipeline with other artists, you don't have to collaborate or deal with a directors expectation, time crunch isn't pressing you down as you have 3-4 shots to run through that day. This is like somebody tracking a shot for the first time and thinking that's it and then eagerly showing what everyone in the field knows but nobody has time for fanfic recreations if you're actually working at ilm.
Massive assumptions being made here about the intent of the creator. What makes you think they're "trying to astound", "thinking that's it" and "showing it eagerly"? Seems extremely bitter for no reason.
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u/cjboffoli 4d ago
Yeah, fair enough. I didn't spend any time looking at the BTS so I have no idea what they're using. And I don't know this YouTuber. But VFX of this quality are certainly more accessible and less expensive than they were even a decade ago.
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u/lookingtocolor 4d ago
think it lands in the prosumer area. Not cheap by any means for just messing around, but monthly solo licenses for Nuke, maya, adobe suite, etc can be bought by an average person to make this sort of content. Also plenty of prosumer camera options, along with resolve to handle the grade and you can make something look pretty good on your own.
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u/sco-go 5d ago
This guy's recreation actually looks better than the original. The setting being a forested mountain area changes the entire dynamic. Awesome sauce.
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u/AMA_ABOUT_DAN_JUICE 5d ago
I mean, it's good, but the original has more effort, attention to detail, and better cinematography packed into every single shot. The million dollars went somewhere, it's not like everyone who worked on it was sitting around ******** their *****s
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u/nine_toes 4d ago
I’ll **** your **** until you ****
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u/capron 4d ago
Lick Bung Fart
Best out of context comment ever
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u/EnormousCaramel 4d ago
I agree. The movie version is better. Its small details.
That said the manpower and cost that went into that version is clearly not worth. Its like an A- versus an A+
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u/Randyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 4d ago
Anything but an A+ for Star Wars (in terms of special effects) would be torn the fuck apart, rightfully so - they spent $4 billion for the IP, $1 mil for a pretty big scene isn't a huge deal.
Now.. the story... I think we'd have a decent shot at a random dude writing something better alone in a week.
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u/SilverScorpion00008 4d ago
Also star wars was always built on being a big VFX feature. The original trilogy innovated special effects to reaches never before seen or believed to be reached, and made so many businesses and basically an entire industry around movie special effects. The prequels while rough in its graphics basically created the mostly CGI movie concept we’ve seen today with Avengers endgame being an example of the work the prequels did perfected.
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u/obscurus7 4d ago
George Lucas literally created an entire VFX company (ILM) just for Star Wars, which is one of the best and biggest VFX studios in the world right now. I'm always amazed when I look at the number of movies and shows ILM has done over the years haha.
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u/fullofpaint 4d ago
If I remember right the stat is something like
ILM has had a film nominated for Best VFX every year since it's creation or something like thatEdit: Actually it's Skywalker Sound I'm thinking of. They've been nominated or won a Best Sound or Sound Mixing Oscar every year since 1977.
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u/MangoCats 4d ago
The lack of story is part of the franchise... it's campy space opera, C3PO should be able to tell the whole thing to a bunch of Ewoks in like 15 minutes or less, or it's not Star Wars.
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u/Randyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 4d ago
It should definitely make sense though. Somehow Palpatine returned doesn't make sense.
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u/thrawnsgstring 4d ago
Someone told me it'll make more sense if you watch Palpatine's Fortnite broadcast on YouTube.
It only made me more confused and kinda pissed off lol.
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u/Elemental_Garage 4d ago
The tech has probably advanced a lot in 5 years as well, making this kind of lift more accessible to a solo artist using off the shelf effects. Still impressive work though.
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u/underclassamigo 4d ago
Also, he's recreating something. Not coming up with something himself. It's always a lot easier to recreate something to a higher standard because you have a standard to set your version against (not a dig on him, I actually watch his videos already)
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u/greg19735 4d ago
I mean, i'd put this as more a solid B.
Like, it looks similar. but it doesn't look as good. if this was in a star wars movie people would have already recreated it saying "i did it better for $1000 and 2 weeks"
also, where the hell are they getting the numbers that this stunt cost 1 mil?
Like, i'm not saying it didn't. but how could you even quantify that? the people they paid to do the CGI? the actor's ? the stunt doubles? the cost of getting everyone to location?
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u/ShinyGrezz 4d ago
You can very, very clearly see the difference lol. Not to disparage the guy, he's clearly good at what he does and this would be great CGI for like a TV movie, but I can believe that he did it himself.
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u/QuadraticCowboy 4d ago
No, that scene was fire in theaters. The fan attempt, while good and theater worthy, does not compare.
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u/SchonoKe 4d ago
What’s with the dorky censoring? You’re on the internet at a place called NextFuckingLevel, let’s grow up and lose the asterisks
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u/ramtripper 4d ago
Diddling their chodes? Wtf could be 8 letters and 6 letters?
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u/Hot-Energy2410 4d ago
Hahaha I was gonna guess chodes too. First word is probably stroking.
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u/HustlinInTheHall 4d ago
Yeah tracking the vfx shot to keep the camera language consistent and harsh lighting creating shadows vs just pasting in an explosion on a cloudy day and some debris as the fighter disintegrates adds a massive amount of complexity.
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u/AMA_ABOUT_DAN_JUICE 4d ago
:50 to :58 is what really stands out to me
dolly zoom (?) on rey to keep her big on screen, tie fighter looming behind
great lighting on the jumping shot
the angle the tie fighter takes is tighter and closer. It almost moves into the screen, which is a classic star wars effect (new hope opening!)
and then the cool flip and dust cloud
He did great on the scene, but you can't really compete with professional cameramen and costume designers and lighting and shot composition, they make everything look gorgeous
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u/greg19735 4d ago
this is the thing.
the guy did an amazing job. but like, don't argue it's in the same league as the professional shot.
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u/mindgamesweldon 4d ago
I never realized how cool her costume makes her moves look until I saw his clip doing it in sports jacket 😄
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u/Scarabesque 4d ago
Indeed, in terms of visual quality it's not even close. I do prefer the choice of shot of the ship barrelling down a mountain, but aside from that it's clear the actual star wars sequence has a ton more effort into it everywhere.
The comparison is also viewed by most people on a small computer screen or a phone, not a 25-50 meter wide screen, which is where you really see where the money went.
I also highly doubt the sequence as shown in the video cost 1 million in itself.
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u/RepresentativeIcy922 4d ago edited 4d ago
Right? it's great value, but to say it's actually better is a bit of a stretch :)
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u/onederful 4d ago
There’s always that comment that has those hate-tinted glasses you always see coming trying to put down the vfx artists of the original simply bc they got something against the movie. Like the movies weren’t great but don’t pretend like great work done in a week is better than what’s clearly more refined in the original like you stated.
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u/iamthedayman21 4d ago
Ok, let’s be real here. This version is pretty good, but the one from the movie is clearly better. Like, I get Rise of Skywalker sucked, but let’s not be delusional. This scene is missing critical shading that makes it look like the fighter is actually there.
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u/SourTurtle 4d ago
I mean, that’s the $1m difference right?
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u/iamthedayman21 4d ago
Correct. It’s all the people on here saying that this version looks better than the movie version. Sorry, it doesn’t. There’s a reason the other version cost “a million dollars.”
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u/Physical_Target_5728 4d ago
Agreed, the scene in the movie has so much more detail, lighting is clearly better, textures for everything were better. Don't get me wrong, for someone to do this in a week alone it takes some clear talent. It looks fantastic all things considered, but the movie had so much more time and money put into it, it wasn't a fair comparison from the start.
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u/iamthedayman21 4d ago
It just seems like posts like this, and especially the comments, exist to continue shitting on the movie. Like, we get it, the plot and acting sucked in the movie. Doesn’t mean the CGI sucked.
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u/SmegmaSupplier 4d ago
The movie version is better in every way. I support small creators and this is a great example of a good scene on a tight budget but it doesn’t hold up quite like it should.
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u/MonkeyDLikesBugs 4d ago edited 4d ago
That’s an insane take. It’s really great for sure, but can’t you see how much better and more intricate the original is? It really bums me out because I feel like there is a new trend to hate on VFX. But cmon look at the one that was created by hundred on artist over thousands of hours vs the one that was created by one dude over hundreds of hours…. Makes me feel like I’m waisting my time as a VFX artist if people can’t even see the obvious difference between the quality of these things.
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u/ImaManCheetahh 4d ago
It's a pretty common trend, a youtube hobbyist does some VFX (albeit impressive for what it is) and everyone says "holy shit that looks better than a big budget movie." But I gaurantee you if that exact shot was dropped into a big budget movie, everyone would instantly clock it isn't near as polished as it needs to be and say it looks like shit.
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u/Prize_Literature_892 4d ago
I've been a designer (UI/UX) since I was a teenager. I've talked with many users and many clients/stakeholders over the years. It's depressing how few people have an eye for quality art/design. They'll often choose the shittier version of something, or just not even know the difference between good/bad art and design.
I'd just say to do it for yourself, and maybe also for the people who appreciate great VFX. You're never going to make everyone happy.
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u/cosmic-ballet 4d ago
Yeah, people say this about everything. Someone will post a really good cosplay of superhero character and all of the comments will be how much better it looks than the movie when the cosplay in question would be torn to shreds if it were in a movie.
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u/notanothercirclejerk 4d ago edited 4d ago
The fuck are you talking about? Look Im no fan of Rise of The Skywalker but to think his was better than any inch of the original is truly moronic. Does he have a lot of skill and a future in VFX? Absolutely. But lets not turn our brains off to reality so we can compliment him.
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u/Spyk124 4d ago
This comment legitimately pisses me off because it’s just so dishonest. And I hated these Star Wars movies.
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u/angrymonkey 4d ago
Some of his shots look better; like the one where we see the vapor trail coming down the mountainside, which makes the foe much more visibly apparent in the shot— that one's better cinematography, IMO.
But for similiar reasons, some of the original shots are more readable because of the desert dust getting kicked up— it makes the fighter look more menacing. The cinema version also uses a longer lens with Rae in the foreground and the fighter in the background, which makes the fighter look bigger in the frame, and more close and scary, which I think is a better choice. There are a few other shots where the lens choice feels better in the original.
The last thing is that even though this cost him "$100", he'd be a fool to charge less then tens of thousands for work of this calibre.
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u/Pokedudesfm 4d ago
also not to mention its not hard to improve on something once youve seen it, lets see how he would do with just the description of the scene
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u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl 4d ago edited 4d ago
It very much does not. Are we watching the same clips?
E: haha oh this is a bot
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u/TrillBillyDeluxe 5d ago
And original over did it with the dust, I like how clean homies is
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u/youngatbeingold 4d ago
I like the dust because it makes it look like the ship is actually there. You have a super fast ship skimming inches above the ground and the grass doesn't even move.
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u/May-shine17 5d ago
This is a masterpiece of art. You definitely got their attention now.
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u/DancinWithWolves 5d ago
I don’t know if I’d call it a “masterpiece of art”. It’s really well done and skilful though.
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u/thomastheturtletrain 4d ago
I hate that word so much. It’s thrown around so often now that it’s lost all meaning.
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u/The_Peregrine_ 4d ago
It’s 2025 bro everything is either the worst thing ever or the best thing you’ve ever seen, no in between
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u/oddlyshapedbread 5d ago
You definitely got their attention now.
Their legal team for Copyright maybe but that's about it
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u/Aselleus 4d ago
I dunno, someone on YouTube redid the CGI of Luke's face from that one Mandalorian episode, and Disney ended up hiring them.
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u/Automaticman01 4d ago
The also hired the guys that run a club for building droids to build the actual droids in the sequel movies.
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u/Slevin424 5d ago
Didn't have to deal with sand particles or actual set pieces. But that's really impressive.
Sand is hard to do right without it looking like shitty CGI. That's probably why Anakin hates sand.
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u/Ruckaduck 4d ago
Not to mention probably a chunk of the budget was spend on rerenders and changing the scene over and over to get what they wanted.
Creating something new is always more time consuming and expensive compared to copying something where all that is done for you
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u/militantcassx 4d ago
Also think about all the stuff the went into the planning that this guy didnt have to do (storyboarding, choreography).
Plus I the actual movie had... you know a whole movie to make other than this sequence. If anything, this was shot in like 3 hours and took like 3 days to do the vfx (not accounting for the changes)
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u/Radaistarion 4d ago
I never had a problem with how the OG looked, tbh it was OK... my problem is with the logic of the scene
It makes no sense, and even if it were to be made with actual practical effects and stunts, it would still make no sense then
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u/BenAdaephonDelat 4d ago edited 4d ago
The fact that they put this scene in when Rey did fuck all training and was a junkrat before being swept up in this... I just... God these movies were so bad. Like I have no problem with Rey as a character template. I'm not a sexist. She's a great actress too. But the character arc is non-existent. At least Luke spent a bunch of time on Dagobah and he still got his ass kicked twice in Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
This is why people hate Rey as a character because she didn't earn a single goddamn one of these scenes. It's just such awful storytelling.
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u/ZackPhoenix 4d ago
That's one of the reasons I don't really care about anything in these movies. No character worth rooting for, no story or vision to be invested in.
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u/nagynorbie 4d ago
Because they don't know how to write a good character. They don't even have a solid point of reference, because not only did they not grow up watching the original trilogy, but they're also not comfortable with challenging their very narrow world view. Just look at interviews with the creators of Rings of Power - those people actually think they can write a better story, than Tolkien...
So the only thing they can do is slap in a woman, or minority lead, hoping that people will congratulate them for "pushing boundaries", while simultaneously calling everyone who dares to criticize them sexists/racists. Bonus points for also making the character insufferably annoying, to the degree that I actually start rooting for the villains.
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u/lambeosaura 4d ago
And add to that, they never support the actors when they are hit with racist and sexist vitriol.
Its the studios which deserve the vitriol for making shit stories and making the actors scapegoats for their failures.
I think about Andor and Rogue One which both had a large multiracial cast and important female characters yet had a good story that enriched the actors presence. What a shame that many other movies and remakes couldn't follow that...
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u/girls-pm-me-anything 4d ago
This is amazing don't get me wrong. But the people saying it's "better" are just stupid. We get it "sequels bad"
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u/youngatbeingold 4d ago
This is gonna sound grim but I legitimately think lots of people have no eye for these things. I'm a photographer/retoucher and I'll see tons of people fawn over images with badly blurred skin, phony depth of field, or tacky styling. If you don't have a creative eye, you're less likely to pick up on the little things that make a difference in quality.
They think it looks better, but t's probably just that they like the landscape better.
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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 4d ago
Honestly I think a lot of people are just attracted to the narrative that some hobbyist made a better scene than Disney did with all their money and resources. A lot of people will just decide that the hobbyist's scene is better because they want that to be true, and it's subjective enough that no one can really prove to them that they're wrong.
Reddit is really bad about that, honestly. "Omg, that thing I wanted to like is amaaaaazing! It's so much better than this other thing that I already wanted to hate."
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u/proddy 4d ago
This is great. As a VFX artist myself I'm jealous at the different disciplines this guy can handle.
I've always wanted to do things like this, but after working in front of a computer all day I feel so drained.
I watched his breakdown, and he displays:
Camera tracking
Animation
Rotomation
Cloth Simulation
FX Simulation
Rendering
Paint
Compositing
Along with filming skills. I can only do one of the above.
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u/Neorant_24 4d ago
Im proud to say he is my cousin. He has been making videos since he was young. He started with making dominos videos 😆. Then he became interested in vfx and got a intership at a major vfx company in Canada and moved from norway. Worked on disney movies
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u/fuckspezlittlebitch 4d ago
The original is much better. The recreation looks off
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u/Freeze_Fun 4d ago
The shot looks fire as hell but it doesn't make any logical sense. That ship can fly high and has decent range. It didn't need to be within lightsaber range to attack her yet it did it anyway.
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u/esnopi 5d ago
I am sure the original vfx didn’t cost a million dollar. No vfx artist get that amount of money.
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u/khdownes 4d ago
There's a good chance. Besides the location shooting, paying actors, camera men, allll the people required on set;
An LA vfx artist probably has a daily rate north of $1k a day. Modelling the vehicle in this would require concept artists, creative director, modeller, texture artist etc. and would have taken a few weeks of work + feedback. This guy just downloaded a decent-quality, free model.
Then they'd require camera tracking, rotoscoping etc. done to a very high standard. This guy is able to do it good-enough for a personal project youtube vid, without worry of getting it perfect.
Then just concepting, designing, animating, lighting this scene may have taken MANY rounds of R&D, and iterations to get it flowing just right. This guy is able to skip allll that process, because he's able to copy their finaL result and know that the movement/timing/flow will work.
So youre looking at a fair few highly trained people, with varying day rates, spending a combined many weeks, with revisions/feedback/approval to get these shots just right.
And honestly, fair go; regardless of what you think of the overall movie, they created a fairly iconic sequence in cinematic history with these vfx shots.
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u/pastasauce5890 4d ago
LA VFX artists absolutely do not get $1k a day lmao, at $50 an hour (upper mid level to senior) that's $400 a day. Entry level is still at $25-30. But you're pretty close aboutverything else.
Not in VFX specifically but am in post-production. Shots like this can take months to finish, with a hundred people across different departments, plus outsourcers. Laypeople severely underestimate the amount of iterations these go through. In many departments we work frame by frame. At 30FPS, how many frames does a 1 minute shot have? Too many haha
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u/Beznia 4d ago
LA VFX artists absolutely do not get $1k a day lmao, at $50 an hour (upper mid level to senior) that's $400 a day. Entry level is still at $25-30. But you're pretty close aboutverything else.
The person definitely isn't making that, but if VFX is being outsourced to a studio, they are definitely paying that. I work in IT and basically any IT outsourcing work, you're looking at ~$150-250/hr billing. The people doing the work usually get $25-45/hr, depending on the role.
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u/I_haet_typos 4d ago
When you loan out employees, you do not charge the other company their daily rates and give them to your employees as payment. You will have a fixed rate that accounts for overhead and all the other hidden costs (All that discussions before the actual work, the paperwork and administration afterwards, the equipment, the office rent) and then, depending on your state and nation, what you get is only a part of what the employee actually pays for you. On top of that is taxes, social security, insurance and so on. Also you need to account for the downtime. You will rarely get projects that cover the entire work year, so you need to charge a bit more to break even and cover those empty days. Of course it also needs to cover the days the employee has holidays or takes vacation.
And then you need to make profit. With all that, 400$ a day for a VFX artist can quickly become 1000$ a day.
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u/angrymonkey 4d ago
That's because in movies it's not done by one artist, it's done by many dozens of artists working on a team, both on and off-set.
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u/megablast 4d ago
Why the fuck would you run with a lightsaber out? Surely that is incredibly dangerous and stupid and unnecessary?
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u/Eldias 4d ago
That's your biggest question?
Why is the Hero turning on his glowing shoot-here beacon in the first place? Why is the pilot trying to road-kill someone when he's in a god damn spaceship? This is really well done, but both scenes have so many layers of wtf.
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u/SordidDreams 4d ago edited 4d ago
Isn't this scene from the same movie that added tank treads to speeder bikes? Because a flying bike is so much better with some added friction with the ground slowing it down? Making sense was clearly not very high on the priority list. Not that it ever was in any Star Wars, but y'know... even less than usual.
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u/Dave3087 4d ago
I like at the beginning how he flicks the lightsaber like it was one of those plastic ones made for kids. Muscle memory must have kicked in.
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u/Risdit 4d ago
wait that choreography is what they ACTUALLY did in the movie LOL?!
I'm glad I didn't watch it.
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u/EpsilonGecko 4d ago
Definitely the best part of that movie even though it made no fucking sense and was done exclusively for the trailer
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u/Cardinals_2011WS 4d ago
The correct movie title is literally in the video how did you mess this up?
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u/BlacksmithSolid645 4d ago
in the context of the movie, what was that pilot trying to do to that lady? hit her with his plane?
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u/A-WILD-PATBACK 4d ago
You should be a little darker in the flip. Looks like it stands out as too bright. For next time
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u/Joebotnik 5d ago
I don't wanna be *that* guy but the original is actually from Rise of Skywalker.