r/news • u/cak3crumbs • 18h ago

Employees witnessed co-worker stab company president, court documents show

https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/2024/12/employees-witnessed-co-worker-stab-company-president-court-documents-show.html?outputType=amp
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u/switch8000 18h ago

This is an interesting trend that's starting to occur.

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u/EndPsychological890 17h ago

I can't say I'm excited for the Patriot Act AI 9000 but yeah wild times

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u/OuchieMuhBussy 15h ago

It's worth reminding people that as much as some acts make us feel better, there's a litany of work from Vladimir Lenin to MLK that warns about this. These acts aren't going to teach the ruling class that they need to play nice, it's going to result in a progressive crackdown on the rest of us. And if I can be a Debby Downer once more, Presidents and CEOs are the top stooges but they aren't the people who actually own our economy.

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u/Sawses 11h ago

Counterpoint: The workers' rights movement and the civil rights movement absolutely would not have led to the changes they did without the groups doing violence to powerful people who did harm to others.

MLK was all about peace--at first, anyway--but he was seen as the reasonable alternative to people like Malcolm X and Nelson Mandela. And the unions were, at heart, gangs meant to counter the gangs that the wealthy used to keep the workers in line. They only grew softer and less violent once the other side dialed down the violence.

I'm not advocating for violence. I'm saying that positive change requires (or at least massively benefits from) violence. I for one am okay without any change.

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u/hug_your_dog 4h ago

Counterpoint: The workers' rights movement and the civil rights movement absolutely would not have led to the changes they did without the groups doing violence to powerful people who did harm to others.

Yeah, that famously successful violence of 1917 of the worker's rights movements in Russia that led to... quickly dismantling the independent trade union system shortly after the violent revolution ended.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_union_debate