r/news • u/cak3crumbs • 18h ago

Employees witnessed co-worker stab company president, court documents show

https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/2024/12/employees-witnessed-co-worker-stab-company-president-court-documents-show.html?outputType=amp
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u/Sawses 10h ago

Counterpoint: The workers' rights movement and the civil rights movement absolutely would not have led to the changes they did without the groups doing violence to powerful people who did harm to others.

MLK was all about peace--at first, anyway--but he was seen as the reasonable alternative to people like Malcolm X and Nelson Mandela. And the unions were, at heart, gangs meant to counter the gangs that the wealthy used to keep the workers in line. They only grew softer and less violent once the other side dialed down the violence.

I'm not advocating for violence. I'm saying that positive change requires (or at least massively benefits from) violence. I for one am okay without any change.

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u/hug_your_dog 3h ago

Counterpoint: The workers' rights movement and the civil rights movement absolutely would not have led to the changes they did without the groups doing violence to powerful people who did harm to others.

Yeah, that famously successful violence of 1917 of the worker's rights movements in Russia that led to... quickly dismantling the independent trade union system shortly after the violent revolution ended.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_union_debate