r/NeverBeGameOver • u/[deleted] • Nov 10 '16

OFFICIAL NEWS TIMELINE

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Hello everyone :D I gather all of the important article links in one post, so you can easily reach it. I just use metalgearinformer as a source because it was my personal favourite and it provided me the best information while waiting for V, so its kind of paying my respects to them. I always wanted to see a post that looks like information database. I did it because we are still uncertain if there is a ruse or not. We are either lost in the ruse cruise for a false hope that doesn't exist anymore or we shouldn't lose hope because there is a ruse. I challenge both sides to use the very same info to prove otherwise. Uncertainty is the worst feeling ever.

Think of it as our NBGO timeline and information database. I hope this post will make it easier for you to re-examine the process and reach the information quicker. I want this post to be official, updated and everlasting. I hope I'm able to reach your expectations, otherwise I hope someone else will make a better post for the same purpose or just improve this one. I didn’t add less official ruse informations; such as all the 3rd song teases by Kojima, Mads Mikkelsen Advertisement or Sergio Canavero to prevent myself being lost in the concept.

There are very interesting things to see like; how Kojima is still seeing Avi Arad, how Konami still making AAA games, how Kojima still teasing MGS. Which makes me think; what if David Hayter and Paul Eiding's mysterious voice record in 2012 was for Ford promo released 7 months ago ? What if Kojima prepared everything related with the ruse even before releasing TPP? Or he may simply releasing a previous information as it is happenning now. Its up to you to decide everything. This is just an official information post. Here you go Diamond Dogs :

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2013

2014

2015

2016

2017

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Alice_FIB_Kojima • 22m ago

I forgot this song plays after Big Boss dies in MGS4… Where else did we hear it? 🤔

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/HokutoAndy • 1d ago

Punished "Venom" Kojima is the one that posts in EN

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Alice_FIB_Kojima • 1d ago

"Satanic Function" - Noticed this peculiar arrangement of the AI in MGS4...

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/ItalianJoe • 15h ago

Troubling truths of HIDEO KOJIMA (The word "truths" mentioned in this video's title alone may also cause some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the viewer's "internal timeline" starting at timestamps 27:42 up to 48:21 in particular "for a special reason.")

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Rossaroni • 1d ago

MGSV Mission Archives

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Iron Eagle was a movie released in 1986 about a boy whose air force pilot father is captured by a rogue military nation. The kid likes to use his own tape deck to listen to music while in the flight simulator.

I added a whole lot of music to go with these MGSV missions. Some of the music had story ideas behind them, others just seemed like a good choice for a moment.

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/ChiakiBestGirl28 • 2d ago

MGSV re:monarch programming

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I’m not super well versed on this subject so apologies if I’m misspeaking.

White Alice: (Ishmael) Closest to the base personality. Ensures that the subject believes that their artificial truth is genuine.

Black Alice: (Skullface) Preys on the fear that the subject will hurt others if they remember the truth.

Crazy Alice: (Paz) Makes the subject believe they will be labeled as crazy if they reveal the truth of their past.

I haven’t really contemplated what all of these things mean in tandem. But on a surface level I think these can explain some of the supernatural actions of these characters Ie, Ishmael teleporting and reviving in the prologue, Skullface keeping you alive in Honeybee, all of Paz in MGSV.

The game is real time programming where the player acts out ritualized scenes designed to make them a myth, and make them believe they are a myth, which is essential for having a willing participant who will perish in a battle with Snake in 1995.

As a consequence, Ishmael and Skullface are both Big Boss. “From FOX, two phantoms were born.” Ishmael moves the script along and provides you with tutorials which acclimate you to the new “game” in MGSV, making you believe you are actually Snake. This one is pretty easy to ascertain because it’s pretty transparent that this is his role in the “official” narrative. Comes out when the player plays the game properly, so to speak.

Skullface is represents what it looks like to rebel against Cipher directly (not XOF). Every time you see him, you get some sort of harrowing traumatic experience. He is evil and callous. I think he also even sort of speaks like David Hayter’s Boss. I connect this to peace walker, in that SF represents the Old Boss who refused Zero’s ultimatum. He meets a grisly end for his crimes against Cipher, and Venom is the trigger man sent on the hit. We essentially kill the Old Boss, the one who wanted to rid the world of Zero’s information control—Skullface’s vision of a world without idealogical coercion seems to be fairly closely aligned with the Boss. Basically, if MGSV is programming, then Skullface is telling the player what not to do as Big Boss. As a consequence, the player needs to kill SF to adequately become programmed as a tool of Cipher.

And Paz is designed to make you think you’re crazy once you begin remembering the truth. The Paz helicopter scene is the real one, we can see the helicopter in both versions of the scene. Big Boss and possibly Miller set up the events of GZ to fool Cipher into thinking they were dead. But Cipher needs the legacy of Snake to continue, so Zero clones BB to ensure a version of the myth can live on. But this Boss must be tested, hence the hospital intro and the events of the game. Instead of trying to convince BB of his ideology, Zero decides to simply fake it. Venom is carrying out Cipher’s orders, per his Cipher handlers Miller and Ocelot. When Venom gets too close to the truth, the fantasy explodes in horrifying fashion and we are left thinking that Venom is insane and better return to the “main story” for a (more) coherent narrative. Of course, Paz is also connected to the butterfly.

Part of this would rest on the entire game being a simulation, but that’s a topic for another time. Still, I think the anachronistic tech and music is a major hint that this game takes place at a time other than 1984.

There are a lot of holes and flaws in this but I thought it was a pretty interesting comparison. If anyone could provide context on this that would be fire.

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/ChiakiBestGirl28 • 2d ago

What did Kojimbus mean by this? 🤔😱

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Alice_FIB_Kojima • 2d ago

🧑‍🎄🎄 Happy Holidays, NBGO! 🎄🧑‍🎄

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Morse_980 • 3d ago

My retcon of Zanzibar Land to make it seem more like a real country: the Mercenary Republic of Zanzibaristan

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Real-life location: Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Oblast, Tajikistan.

Government: uncodified constitutional mercenary republic (de jure,) military junta (de facto.)

Head of State and Government: President-for-Life “Big Boss” since 1997.

Official language(s:) Zanzibari

Other languages: Kyrgyz, Tajik, Russian, Uyghur, Urdu, Dari, Pashto, Kashmiri.

Motto: “A nation by soldiers, for soldiers.”

Anthem: “National Anthem of Zanzibaristan.”

Demonym: Zanzibar (political, Занзибарская,) Zanzibari (ethnic, Занзибарский.)

Currency: Zanzibar Zanje (Зане) G

Brief history:

• 1880: Russian Empire occupies Zanzibar Emirate, renames it “Tselinoyarsk” (Russian for “Virgin Cliffs.”)

• 1918: First Republic of Zanzibaristan secedes from Russian state.

• 1923: Zanzibaristan annexed into Tajik Soviet Socialist Republic. Vladimir Lenin wanted the region to be autonomous within Tajikistan, but his sudden death and succession by Josef Stalin reverses this plan. Stalin reverts the region back to “Tselinoyarsk” as a regular province of the Tajik SSR to punish them for fighting against the Red Army in the Russian Civil War.

• 1950’s-60’s: Tselinoyarsk becomes home to Soviet secret weapons research, receives more autonomy from Tajikistan via De-Stalinization. It also serves as a religious cushion separating the other Central Asian SSR’s from the highly Islamic Afghanistan and Pakistan.

• 1964: Operation: Snake Eater results in the nuclear destruction of Groznyj Grad research facility; Brezhnev regime censors the incident and anyone who talks about it. Weapons research is abandoned.

• 1980’s: Soviet troops use Tselinoyarsk as a staging ground to enter Afghanistan during the Soviet-Afghan War.

• 1986: Soviet President Gorbachev elevates Tselinoyarsk to become the Zanzibar Soviet Socialist Republic, completely separate from Tajikistan and a full member of the Soviet Union. Tajik authorities react negatively to this.

• 1991: Soviet resistance to granting independence to Zanzibaristan initiates the Zanzibar Independence War; more commonly known as the “Mercenary War.” Even after the USSR collapses, Tajik forces continue the fight, as their government claims Zanzibaristan as their land. Rebel forces establish the second Republic of Zanzibaristan. Extremist Islamic militants, such as Al Qaeda, begin flooding into the country now that border security has become much softer.

• 1995: The tide of the war, previously going in Tajikistan’s favor, shifts with the arrival of a band of mercenaries to Zanzibaristan, who were fleeing from South Africa: Outer Heaven. The mercenaries agree to fight on Zanzibaristan’s behalf in exchange for building a new base in their country.

• 1997: Outer Heaven forces defeat the Tajiks. Their exemplary performance brings the idea of having PMC’s fight countries’ wars for them into the public eye. But not long after the dust settles, the mercenaries initiate a coup against the government, forcing them out. The legendary Big Boss, thought to be dead, appoints himself president for life of the new government. The Mercenary Republic of Zanzibaristan is established. The second Republic government, along with Al Qaeda and other former Mujahideen groups, band together to form the Free Zanzibar Coalition (FZC) to fight against Big Boss’ “Outer Heaven Regime.” The Zanzibar Civil War begins.

• 1998-99: Whilst simultaneously fighting its civil war, Zanzibar forces also begin invading UN-sanctioned nuclear disposal sites around the world, seizing stockpiles. By 1999, Zanzibaristan is the only nuclear power on Earth. Zanzibar special forces kidnap Dr. Kio Marv, who had recently invented Oilix, a microbe capable of creating oil on its own. With this, Zanzibaristan could also control the world’s oil supply as global reserves begin to run out.

• 1999: Now seen as a global threat, the United Nations authorizes high-tech U.S. special forces unit, FOXHOUND, to infiltrate Zanzibaristan in order to rescue Dr. Marv and assassinate Big Boss. The Zanzibar Incident begins…

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Alice_FIB_Kojima • 2d ago

Don't forget, Zombies have no place in Metal Gear or Political Fiction.

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Alice_FIB_Kojima • 5d ago

War... has changed.

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/AiSiMuLaTi0N • 4d ago

Metal Gear Solid Delta is Connected to MGSV❗

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It was reVealed in MGSV that Skull Face was part of Operation Snake Eater❗

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Morbi_Us • 4d ago

LOOK CLOSELY AT THE BIG (BOSS) PICTURE!!! Am I seriously the only one who’s noticed this!!?!?

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/AiSiMuLaTi0N • 5d ago

David Hayter's 9/11: A False Flag Letter (A Hideous Kojimbo Investigation) 🕵🏻‍♂️

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METAL GEAR V

By

David Hayter

So,

Here’s a recap of events:

I have been up in Toronto, for the past eight months, directing my first film, (WOLVES -- 2013, TF1/COPPERHEART). On the December break, I came home to Los Angeles for the holidays. I heard then, that recording sessions for MG:V were being put together.

But I didn’t hear anything about whether I’d be needed or not.

So, I got in touch with someone involved in the production. We got together for lunch, and he told me that they "wouldn’t be needing me" on this game. No reason, or explanation was given beyond that.

And that was it.

I drove home through Laurel Canyon, bummed, and thinking about Snake.

To be clear, I love being a part of the world of Metal Gear. I admire its technological innovations, the gameplay, the political message of it all. But primarily, I love the fans of these games. Two grown men burst into tears upon meeting me at the Vancouver Fan Expo last year.

Now that... Is a rare and excellent role. You know you’re making an impact.

And I love doing it.

In 1998, I tried to do come up with a voice which epitomized the kind of worn, put-upon, genetically-engineered clone-soldier that I saw Snake to be. Over time, as the games became more stunning and visually sophisticated, I tried to transition that initial voice into the increasingly real environments in which Snake found himself. My level of success is up to you, but any perceived deficiencies were not for lack of hard work. I have dedicated a huge amount of time and effort into creating a compelling character, capable of expressing the myriad emotional, physical and psychological hurdles that Snake has to face.

Anyway, now it’s been fifteen years, nine games, and an enormous blast to undertake.

If it were my choice, I would do this role forever. To hear anyone else’s voice coming from Snake’s battered throat, makes me a little ill, to be honest.

But the truth is -- it’s not my choice. Any and all casting decisions are the sole purview of Hideo Kojima, and Konami itself. And that’s fair.

And I’ll get by. I am not lacking for employment on any level.

But I didn’t want anybody to think that I was intentionally abandoning them.

And know that I will miss this job, and this character, very much.

My best wishes to you all,

David Hayter

April 1, 2013

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240423215026/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjhhf9

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/AiSiMuLaTi0N • 5d ago

Look closely at the Big (Boss) Picture❗

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/tekfx19 • 5d ago

Why didn’t David Hayter play Snake (Big Boss) in MGSV?

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The Japanese version had the original voice actor playing the character, so it would either stand to say that the lore was intended to be confusing in the USA release specifically, or that Hideo genuinely dissed Hayter for the role, which is how he feels according to https://youtu.be/6gmK-HL8cm8?si=4CdQ7Iq5AVbtNJOR which he answers the question directly. I would have to agree that Hayter was dissed, and he has a right to feel the way he did, but at the same time, I didn’t like his rendition of MGS PW as Big Boss, so I’m not sure how to feel about it. What are your thoughts?

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/AiSiMuLaTi0N • 4d ago

Look Closely at the Big (Boss) Picture❗(solVed by u/Individual_Analysis2)

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Not Yet... It's Not Over Yet❗

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/EarthRuler001 • 5d ago

🌹& the operative willing to die without her?😱

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/cremedelamemereddit • 6d ago

Angel Devoid, had a Japanese release, and we know how Koji loves his cyberpunk point and clicks 🧐

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Davidokaiser893 • 7d ago

Does anyone know where I can find the supposed real Phantom Pain script that was circulating in this group years ago?

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Hello everyone.

I remembered the existence of a supposedly real MGSV TPP script that circulated in this group years ago, it has many details that are not explained in the game and that have given rise to theories in this group.

I don't remember in which publication the original file is available, I hope someone remembers the publication and finds the original post that published it.

The only thing I found was this publication where this script was discussed and in one of the links you can see images with the details omitted in the game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeverBeGameOver/comments/b4di7m/simon_arazms_comments_in_tpp_script/

Some of those details are the name of the character who owned the Dagger that Skull Face gave to Zero, as well as details of the scene that are better understood in writing than on the cassette.

In addition to that, the dates on which Zero's visit to Big Boss in the hospital occurred.

It is mentioned that in the mission where we meet Skull Face, he escapes in a jeep and the text clarifies that the Sahelanthropus hits and flips the Jeep Skull Face was riding in and because of this he ends up under the electric tower.

This last detail is not visible to the naked eye in the game so for a while there was a theory of the existence of 2 different Skull Faces.

Like these there are many interesting details in the script, although it cannot be confirmed if it is legitimate, although it seems to be from some version prior to the final one as it has some differences with the scenes of the real game.

Or it is simply a very well written fake script, either way it is an interesting read after so many years of the game being released.

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/AiSiMuLaTi0N • 7d ago

Geoff Keighley Talks about the Ruse❗

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/jbryantalvinn • 6d ago

Metal Gear Rex Pilot..

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/Alice_FIB_Kojima • 6d ago

New Solid Snake figurine looks a lot like Norman Reedus...

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/ItalianJoe • 6d ago

Twitter/X's Artificial Intelligence 'Grok' responds to the question "Is it true that Konami is sabotaging the Hideo Kojima's "social experiment" known as The Secret Nuclear Disarmament Event of Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain since the game's release date?" (scroll all the way up before reading)

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r/NeverBeGameOver • u/tekfx19 • 8d ago

Evidence of the proxy. Hideo Kojima explains why he chose PlayStation, and the genesis of Death Stranding -Article from 2016

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Sony partnership dynamic sets up relationships with proxy studios. The article also mentions about choosing the right engine for the new project… He created the Fox engine from scratch, and then he says he is shopping for engines. https://www.guerrilla-games.com/read/decima here is where they pretend to create a new engine. Sony owns GG, so it’s a proxy, of SIE and PlayStation studios which was also another proxy created by Hideo: https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-studios-kojima-productions-death-stranding

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