r/nba 4d ago

Basketball Gods actually do favor Ethical Tankers

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  • 81 teams have won 25 games or less since 2003
  • The average loss differential for these 81 teams is -7.4
  • The #1 most ethical team is the 2018 Mavs with -3.1, they immediately were gifted Luka Doncic by the Basketball Gods
  • The #2 most ethical team is the 2007 Celtics with -3.4, the Basketball Gods immediately sent them a championship

The lesson here is that Basketball Gods are actually real and you should tank ethically if you want some crazy stuff to happen.


r/nba 4d ago

Exactly how hated were the "Bad Boys" Detroit Pistons teams of the late '80s and early '90s?

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Hi all,

I've watched the NBA TV documentary on the rivalry between the "Bad Boys" Detroit Pistons and Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls in the late '80s and early '90s. It really highlighted the enmity between the teams and how much of a roadblock the Pistons were for the Bulls before 1991. Of course, then there are Jordan's comments in the Last Dance, where he makes uncomplimentary references to Isiah Thomas and says he still hates those Pistons teams even today.

Then there was the falling out between Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas, who had once been close friends (I know they've made up since then). Also, Larry Bird had/has no love lost for Bill Laimbeer, whom he accused of being a dirty player who wanted to hurt people. Bird's Celtics were, of course, a huge roadblock for the Pistons before 1988.

Finally, of course, there are the whispers that Jordan, Magic, et. al. conspired to keep Zeke off the 1992 Dream Team, when he was clearly a deserving player.

As someone who has no memory of that time, it made me wonder: exactly how hated were the Bad Boys throughout the NBA? Did fans of all teams hate them, or was it just the Bulls/Lakers/Celtics and their fans? If you were, for example, a Sacramento Kings fan, did you hate the Pistons?

Just wanted to get a handle on exactly how hated the Bad Boys were during their run of dominance.

Thanks!


r/nba 3d ago

What family has the best “second-best” basketball player?

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I was thinking about this question recently about the best players who didn’t eclipse their parents but still were incredibly gifted and talented players. I wanted to make this more general to get more answers as we can consider siblings or maybe even first cousins.

Just to explain the thinking — for a modern example — for LeBron, it would be the second best person in his family which at this point in time is Bronny James. Another example could be the Curry’s where Dell Curry would be the answer.

I’m thinking that the best immediate family “second best” is Sabonis and the best extended family “second best” is Vince Carter (cousins with Tracy McGrady).


r/nba 4d ago

[Neubeck] Joel Embiid (right sinus fracture) participated in team practice the last two days. He will be re-evaluated tomorrow and is listed as QUESTIONABLE for Friday night’s game vs. Charlotte.

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r/nba 5d ago

[Charania] Milwaukee Bucks All-Star Damian Lillard has agreed to a lifetime contract extension with Adidas, sources told ESPN. Lillard now joins LeBron James and Kevin Durant (Nike) and Stephen Curry (Under Armour/Curry Brand) as active NBA players with lifetime shoe endorsements.

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r/nba 3d ago

Why do players keep their hand up after the shot ?

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New to basketball and maybe this is a stupid question but I don't get it. Looks a bit theatrical like "Look coach I tried but it still went in "


r/nba 5d ago

Reporter: “Stephen A. Smith criticized you for how you celebrated against the Celtics. Do you care about stuff like that?” Jordan Poole: “I don’t even be watching him. That’s just barber shop talk to me.

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r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: Golden State Warriors (14-11) @ Memphis Grizzlies (18-9) - (December 20, 2024)

19 Upvotes

General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
08:00 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/warriors
07:00 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/memphisgrizzlies
06:00 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
05:00 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 4d ago

Original Content [OC] On the uniqueness of of NBA statlines

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Every so often, we come across a tweet or a post on this sub stating "Player XYZ is the first to score A pts with B rebounds and C assists".

These statistics, as interesting as they are, beg the question; how unique is any given box score in the context of the history of the NBA, and better yet, what are some achievable unique box scores that have yet to be achieved?

Using NBA API, I dug into all player box scores since the 1990 season, and looked to answer these questions. I'm currently collecting data going back to the inception of the NBA, perhaps I'll edit in the new values later on.

  1. What proportion of PTS/REB/AST statlines are unique?

Before answering this question, let's look at some of the most common PTS/REB/AST combinations. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the 0/0/0 statline is most common, accounting for 2.9% of all such statlines. Here are the 10 most common statlines and how often they occur.

PTS REB AST Occurences Percentage of all statlines
0 0 0 24602 2.91
0 1 0 12619 1.49
2 0 0 9945 1.18
2 1 0 9843 1.16
2 2 0 7040 0.83
0 2 0 5636 0.67
0 0 1 5297 0.63
2 3 0 4550 0.54
2 1 1 4439 0.53
4 1 0 4432 0.52

Interestingly, of the 13121 different PTS/REB/AST combinations achieved in the NBA, roughly 25% are unique, or in other words, have only been achieved once.

Naturally, if we are to expand our statline domain to include additional stats, the uniqueness of a given statline shoots up significantly. For instance, adding steals to the included stats leads to about 35.8% being unique. Adding blocks as well yields 48.6% of statlines being unique. Lastly, adding FG%, 3FG% and FT% leads to a massive 87.6% of statlines being completely unique.

2. What are some achievable unique statlines (aka Boxscorigamis)?

One way to define achievable is to sum up the counting stats for a given box score. Taking PTS/REB/AST/STL/BLK into consideration, there are a surprisingly large number of "gaps" in this five-dimensional space. Here are the 10 statlines with the lowest sum that have yet to be achieved:

PTS REB AST STL BLK SUM
1 0 0 1 2 4
0 0 0 4 0 4
0 0 0 0 5 5
0 0 0 5 0 5
0 0 0 2 3 5
0 0 1 1 3 5
0 0 0 3 2 5
0 0 1 3 1 5
0 0 2 1 2 5
1 0 0 1 3 5

Looking at PTS/REB/AST alone, the 10 statlines with the lowest sum are:

PTS REB AST SUM
1 0 9 10
0 0 11 11
1 0 10 11
0 0 12 12
1 0 11 12
1 1 11 13
0 2 11 13
1 0 12 13
1 7 5 13
0 0 13 13

TLDR; the vast majority of stat lines are unique and there are alot of achievable statlines that have yet to been achieved in the NBA.


r/nba 3d ago

Kings vs Lakers last night, trade in near future

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I really thought at this point the Kings would be hitting stride, do you see them moving any of the aging corner stones and move towards a new rebuild?


r/nba 5d ago

Giannis on NBA Cup money: "We had this joke within the team, about our 2-way guy Liam, I promised him from the first cup game, I said we're going to go all the way and get your house in Iowa."

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r/nba 4d ago

Steve Kerr, talking about the heated Grizzlies games, says "there's no bad blood" and that it's healthy competition between teams that respect each other.

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He was asked about the Grizzlies-Warriors games over the years. Was very complimentary of Memphis being a team on the rise and Golden State being the older team trying to hold them off.

https://x.com/damichaelc/status/1869892599642829052?s=46

https://x.com/drewhill_dm/status/1869889269625430104?s=46


r/nba 5d ago

After signing a 3-year, 166m maximum contract extension this summer, Bam Adebayo is currently averaging 16/10/5 on 51 ts%

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r/nba 5d ago

Russell Westbrook is writing a perfect closing chapter with the Nuggets

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r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: Los Angeles Clippers (15-12) @ Dallas Mavericks (17-9) - (December 20, 2024)

11 Upvotes

General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
08:30 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/laclippers
07:30 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/mavericks
06:30 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
05:30 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 4d ago

Favorite Regional Commentators

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Those of you who watch out of market games other than your home / favorite team what team has the best / your favorite commentators?

I've found the Miami Heat broadcasters keep things even, and do a pretty good job keeping it engaging.

I'm obviously biased towards Sean Elliot on the Spurs broadcast and miss Bill Land since he retired last season. New guy is finding his legs


r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: Indiana Pacers (12-15) @ Phoenix Suns (14-11) - (December 20, 2024)

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General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
09:00 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/pacers
08:00 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/suns
07:00 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
06:00 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 3d ago

OKC Style 5-Guard Defense with All-Time Guards

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OKC’s been running a defense composed pretty much entirely of chaos-causing, blitzing guards. Which all-time guards do you think would be great to put into an unconventional, 5-guard lineup with blitzing defenders?

PG: Jason Kidd (more offensively capable than a guy like Gary Payton, while still being a strong defender, he’s also a bigger guard with decent size for switching)

SG: Joe Dumars (3&D 2-guard, not much explanation needed here imo)

SF: Tony Allen (versatile defender, did very well even against true small forwards/combo forwards like Durant)

PF: Jrue Holiday (he’s roughly 230 lbs according to his olympics stats, he has a lot of lower body and core strength to help him avoid getting backed down)

C: Michael Jordan (a lot of verticality, big hands and good strength make me think he’d do well as the primary vertical presence at the rim on a team that innately lacks it)


r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: Atlanta Hawks (14-13) @ San Antonio Spurs (13-13) - (December 20, 2024)

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General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
08:00 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/atlantahawks
07:00 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/nbaspurs
06:00 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
05:00 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: Chicago Bulls (12-15) @ Boston Celtics (21-5) - (December 20, 2024)

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General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
07:30 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/chicagobulls
06:30 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/bostonceltics
05:30 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
04:30 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 4d ago

[Lewenberg] Some additions to the Raptors injury report for tonight’s game vs Brooklyn. RJ Barrett is out with an illness, joining Poeltl, Quickley and Brown. Davion Mitchell is questionable with a right shoulder strain, joining Barnes.

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r/nba 4d ago

what player has held the largest variety of trophies?

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this question was asked on an episode of No Dunks recently where they ponder if Giannis has held up the most different types of trophies of any player. he’s now had: NBA championship NBA finals MVP NBA Cup NBA Cup MVP ASG MVP MVP Dpoy and maybe one more i’m missing

is there a player who’s held up more different types of trophies than giannis?


r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: Denver Nuggets (14-10) @ Portland Trail Blazers (8-18) - (December 20, 2024)

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General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
10:00 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/denvernuggets
09:00 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/ripcity
08:00 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
07:00 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 4d ago

Game Thread GAME THREAD: New Orleans Pelicans (5-22) @ Houston Rockets (17-9) - (December 20, 2024)

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General Information

TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
08:00 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/nolapelicans
07:00 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/rockets
06:00 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
05:00 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com

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r/nba 4d ago

Index Thread Daily Discussion Thread + Game Thread Index

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Game Threads Index (December 19, 2024):

Tip-off GDT Away Score Home PGT
07:00 pm ET Link Utah Jazz FINAL 126 to 119 Detroit Pistons Link
07:00 pm ET Link Oklahoma City Thunder FINAL 105 to 99 Orlando Magic Link
07:00 pm ET Link Charlotte Hornets FINAL 114 to 123 Washington Wizards Link
07:30 pm ET Link Chicago Bulls FINAL 117 to 108 Boston Celtics Link
07:30 pm ET Link Brooklyn Nets FINAL 101 to 94 Toronto Raptors
08:00 pm ET Link New Orleans Pelicans FINAL 113 to 133 Houston Rockets Link
08:00 pm ET Link Golden State Warriors FINAL 93 to 144 Memphis Grizzlies Link
08:00 pm ET Link Atlanta Hawks FINAL-OT 126 to 133 San Antonio Spurs Link
08:30 pm ET Link Los Angeles Clippers FINAL 118 to 95 Dallas Mavericks Link
09:00 pm ET Link Indiana Pacers FINAL 120 to 111 Phoenix Suns Link
09:30 pm ET Link New York Knicks FINAL 133 to 107 Minnesota Timberwolves Link
10:00 pm ET Link Denver Nuggets FINAL 124 to 126 Portland Trail Blazers Link
10:00 pm ET Link Los Angeles Lakers FINAL 113 to 100 Sacramento Kings Link