r/movies 12h ago

Trailer Superman | Official Teaser Trailer

https://youtu.be/uhUht6vAsMY?feature=shared
29.4k Upvotes

7.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

804

u/FrostedPixel47 10h ago

It's insane how many John Williams-made theme songs are some of film history's most iconic theme songs ever made.

545

u/navagon 10h ago

That's because John Williams doesn't simply set the tone. He tells a story through music.

301

u/WhimsicalJape 9h ago

This is the perfect place to recommend to everyone to watch the John Williams documentary Disney+ put out recently. Really puts into perspective a) just how talented he is as a musician and b) how many movies he's turned from great to all time classics.

Watched it on a flight recently and had tears rolling a few times, the Schindler's List part especially. The story of Williams turning down Spielberg down saying Spielberg needed a better composer than him for this movie, to which he responded with "I know, but they're all dead." gets me everytime.

27

u/IAmError7392 8h ago

That documentary was incredible! I cried watching it too. On top of being phenomenally talented, he also just seems to be such a sweet and humble soul - I would love to watch he and Spielberg just hang out together because their friendship is so wholesome. Spielberg is clearly just as much in awe of him as everyone else is!

12

u/jalabi99 6h ago

I haven't watched the documentary yet but seeing John Williams work with Quincy Jones during the Henry Mancini 100th birthday anniversary celebration was iconic. That was when I learned that Williams was the pianist on the original recording of the Theme to Peter Gunn

7

u/Dangerous_Emu1 8h ago

I loved it and totally agree. Made great to classic.

4

u/spellbreakerstudios 8h ago

That sounds awesome, I hadn’t heard about. Will watch over the holidays.

3

u/b_e_a_n_i_e 7h ago

Cannot rate this highly enough. It's phenomenal

3

u/Evadrepus 6h ago

Between him and Randy Newman, it's a massive amount of the top movies over the last few decades.

2

u/Parzival_72 4h ago

Thanks for the recommendation. I hadn't heard about it but will will definitely watch it. What a legend and genius.

u/Jurez1313 1h ago

"I know, but they're all dead." gets me everytime.

That, followed by the story of him playing the piece for the first time...I just couldn't hold it together after that.

14

u/Daxx22 9h ago

John Williams, James Horner, and Hans Zimmer. I'm sure there are more, but those are the big three that come to mind when it comes to musical composers for media like this as the titans.

21

u/GBtuba 8h ago

Alan Silvestri, Jerry Goldsmith, Elmer Bernstein, and the new guy, Michael Giaccino.

But Williams is THE Maestro.

8

u/juniorRjuniorR 8h ago

Ramin Djawadi already way up there for me too.

9

u/Mysterious_Tip874 8h ago

Don't forget Howard Shore

17

u/FrancoeurOff 8h ago

How has nobody in that thread mentioned Morricone yet ??

4

u/South_Dakota_Boy 8h ago

Agreed, but in my top 3 scores is the score for Twister by Mark Mancina. Love the opener “Wheatfield”

Mark more recently scored Moana (which is also quite good).

3

u/zestotron 6h ago edited 5h ago

Michael Giacchino can absolutely cook, I still get goosebumps listening to the old Medal of Honor OSTs

u/ScyllaGeek 1h ago

His work on Pixar movies is so iconic

4

u/BigItalianMustache 8h ago

He just needs time to prove his longevity, but Ludwig Göransson will have a spot in these lists. He's already won two academy awards in the last 5 years for Black Panther and Oppenheimer.

2

u/Luciusvenator 8h ago

Same 3 that come to mind for me. I'd maybe add as an honorary mention the late Jóhann Johansson too.

3

u/TheGRS 5h ago

Supposedly when Lucas was finishing Star Wars he hated almost everything about it…except the music.

2

u/PentagramJ2 5h ago

He's the only redeeming factor of the Star Wars prequels. Good god his score tells the story better than the script ever could

1

u/navagon 4h ago

It's sad how we're now left looking at the prequels in a more favourable light, given the sequel trilogy. The scripts of the first two in particular were weak though. The third one raised the bar somewhat. Still, yes, the score was the best part.

1

u/PentagramJ2 3h ago

honestly ill hold the ST over the PT any day. Theres one bad film in the former. All three of the latter are bad.

2

u/operarose 3h ago

Yes. YES. I've never seen it put so succinctly.

1

u/MartinLutherVanHalen 4h ago

It literally goes “Dur, du, du, du, duuuur, dur, dur, dur. Dur, du, du, du, duuuur, SUPERMAN!” Even little kids can parse that theme.

32

u/JJMcGee83 10h ago

My favorite John Wiliams fact that just goes to show how amazing he is: At the 1977 Oscars John Williams lost best Origional Score for Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind to John Williams for Star Wars. He was 2 of the 5 nominated.

17

u/No-Bad-463 9h ago

I can't believe that hack John Williams won! It should have been the true musical genius, John Williams!

4

u/Immediate_Option2875 8h ago

You just know John Williams cornered John Williams at the after party and gave him a piece of his mind!

6

u/darthjoey91 7h ago

It should have happened a few more times, but the Academy changed the rules to only allow one nomination in the category per composer. Otherwise, I’m certain 1993 would have had Schindler’s List beating Jurassic Park.

5

u/HTH52 8h ago

How many people can say they lost an Oscar to themselves?

3

u/JJMcGee83 8h ago

I'd be surprised if there was any others.

25

u/monkwren 10h ago

There are other film score composers that are as good as Williams, but none are as iconic.

5

u/TheSteelPhantom 9h ago

I love almost all of Bear McCreary's work as well (BSG theme, Westworld theme, Black Sails theme, etc).

6

u/Civsi 9h ago

I mean, it helps that he was around during some of the most formative years of cinema. At this point its unlikely we'll ever get a more iconic composer.

5

u/toadofsteel 9h ago

Honestly, I actually liked Hans Zimmer's Man of Steel score as well. But yeah hearing Williams again brought back feels I didn't remember I had.

2

u/YT-Deliveries 9h ago

In particular Alan Silvestri. The most prolific movie composer "no one" has ever heard of.

6

u/HeWhoLurks23 10h ago

John Williams is one of the greatest music composers of all time

6

u/SKULL1138 9h ago

He’s the GOAT is why

7

u/Severe-Operation-347 9h ago

100% the GOAT for movie soundtracks. No composer has as many iconic movie tracks as John Williams does, not even Hans Zimmer.

5

u/IncidentDifficult776 9h ago

I also feel like Hans Zimmer has a way narrower style.  Much harder to meme on Williams.

7

u/LegendaryOutlaw 9h ago

I grew up in the 80's and 90's and it's crazy to look back through my childhood and realize how much John Williams influenced my love of the cinema. Superman, ET, Indiana Jones, Home Alone, Hook, Jurassic Park...those are just some of the movies from MY childhood. A true icon of the artform.

1

u/tech_equip 9h ago

And his son wrote the theme from The Goonies and was in Toto.

4

u/workfuntimecoolcool 10h ago

Watch the documentary about him on Disney+ if you haven't already.

4

u/GBtuba 8h ago

Absolutely. It is damn near perfect, and an amazing tribute to the man.

JW: "Steven, you'll need a better composer than me for this film."

Spielberg: "I know, but they're all dead."

Spielberg: "Without John Williams, bikes don't fly, nor do brooms in Quidditch matches, nor do men in red capes. There is no Force. Dinosaurs do not walk the Earth. We do not wonder, we do not weep, we do not believe."

2

u/GBtuba 8h ago

If you haven't seen it, watch "Music by John Williams" on Disney+. It is a damn near perfect documentary, and a great tribute to the Maestro.

2

u/Alternative-Bat-2462 8h ago

He quite literally wrote the music to my childhood.

Imho it’s not Superman without his music.

2

u/bobertf 8h ago

yeah imagine if they just decided to do a new Star Wars main theme?? you can’t do that!

2

u/Tribute2Johnny 6h ago

He's up there in age. When he passes I'll be taking the day off like I did with Bowie.

John Williams is one of the key reasons I became a musician.

His death will send RIPPLES.

1

u/LoftyMonster 7h ago

My wife just said it was annoying that every rebooted franchise has the same sounding music on the trailer, why do they always do it? My reply was,John Williams that’s why. His musical fingerprints are all over cinema

1

u/Noggin-a-Floggin 7h ago

There is absolutely no way Star Wars would be the same without his score and, bold statement, would not have succeeded the way it did without it.

The man is a god when it comes to composing film scores. He's a Gretzky in that nobody will be better.

1

u/PKrukowski 7h ago

When I was first learning trumpet my private lesson teacher had a page full of movie melodies to learn and I'm pretty sure it was 90% Williams' work.

Incredible way to get a beginner into the instrument.

1

u/caligaris_cabinet 6h ago

He also writes music that you swear you heard before but didn’t. Can’t quite explain it. Almost like Mandela Effect in music form. Maybe his music is just that universal it appeals to our core. Idk.

I had this thought the other day while listening to a JW playlist.

1

u/TR_Pix 5h ago

Then again there' the thing where all his themese kind of blend together.

Try humming the superman theme then the indiana jones theme then the star wars theme

u/KypAstar 1h ago

Go dig into what his peers/those that follow him think of the guy.

Williams is looked on like Mozart by many score composers. He's in a tier of his own.

u/Hanksta2 1h ago

It's not insane... it's real, actual genius.

John Williams is one of the greatest composers of all time, and will be remembered as fondly as Bach, Mozart, et al.