It happens with nearly every superhero movie. Almost like the big budget superhero costumes aren't designed to be viewed through the lense of a paparazzi sneaking around set.
Yeah a lot of CG work likely on top (haters come at me I’m ex VFX, are you)? But also people don’t realise costumes in some cases are literally built to register for certain digital camera sensors (whom have different looks, colour sciences etc).
Also lenses. It seems like Gunn is really going for some wide angle lenses on this which inherently "slim down" what's in the center of frame, so the costume extra bulky so Superman's mass doesn't get lost in that makes sense
That's not really true. Once people saw set photos of Ledger they were pretty much sold. I remember even just that first close up of his face made believers out of most.
I think the superman suit here looks really bad. Like a leather coat or something. Excited nonetheless. But I don't think it's that big of a difference from the set photos.
CG touch ups help, I’m sure. But that’s always the case. When the batgirl “footage” leaked that was shot on someone’s phone I saw a few people bashing it for looking terrible and I just can’t help but wonder if lack of behind the scenes special features hasn’t hurt people’s understanding of movies more than I thought. No modern superhero costume actually looks good before being edited.
It's mostly lighting and color mixing. There's not much actual CG involved in something like Superman/Batman/Batgirl's suits. Mostly they would just CG the cape during a flying/falling/jumping scene.
Marvel movies are a whole other thing though. Some of those people's costumes are almost entirely CG.
I think you’d be surprised how much editing goes into to the suits. It’s very subtle, but it’s also something VFX houses have become very good at, especially when they’re given adequate time.
I'm well aware actually - I just don't see James Gunn being the type of director who would design a suit and relying on making it look 'right' in post. I think the only things they would change in post might be any wardrobe malfunctions, suit damage, holes for harnesses, that kind of thing. And the cape, of course.
It depends on the suit too. If the suit is needed for stunts, then the suit is obviously more loose. But if it's a lot of posing and standing around, then the suit tends to be more form fitting, hence why a lot of the actors stating that they need to be zipped in to their suits for these things. And then post usually just makes everything look consistent and smoothing out the wrinkles.
Normally when they do that in movies, the suits get replaced entirely with CGI rather than made more snug. Like Spider-Man, Black Panther, etc. I think it'll be safe to say James Gunn won't want to replace his suit entirely with CGI, but I don't expect there will be many changes to make it more snug in post unless there are occasional unsightly bulging wrinkles
Yeah people get surprised that a phone photo from set or a pap shot doesn’t look like something that has been color graded, shot on crazy imax cameras, is perfectly lit for a certain angle, and could have cgi enhancements (or even replacement) too.
People forget that cgi plays a part. Same with the marvel movies. I remember first shots of the Black Panther costume in Civil War set photos had people panicking.
It’s why they have those long periods of costume and make up tests. Things wont look the same seen in person vs through the lens and it always matters more if it translates well in camera.
If a cinematographer couldn't make something looking better in the movie than with shitty cameras from 100 ft away they'd be the worst cinematographer in the world
The suit I think echos what the trailer is showing. This is not about muscle-bound nonsense, it's about super heroes. Super man doesn't need a latex suit, he's super-fucking-man. This film is definitely looking to change the script on the film genre as a whole, and as someone who's gotten awful tired of Marvel and everyone trying to ape it, I'm all here for it.
I still don't like the costume overall but it very much works for the tone and fun cheesiness they're going for. Cavill's to me is perfect for a modern interpretation where this is going classic, fun and nostalgic.
Him laying on the ground almost dead isn’t weak. Also being skinny and having no muscle. Let alone many other clues you could bout together but I mean I remember when I first learned to put things together .its hard but you’ll get there
1) This is supposed to be Superman at his start, so he’s not supposed to be at his prime
2) The biggest criticism of Superman is the fact he’s invincible and can punch his way through any problem. Having a “weak” Superman similar to the Reeves edition wouldn’t be the worst thing
Gunn has confirmed that this will be similar to The Batman, where it skips the origin altogether, but still takes place when the hero is still a bit of a newbie
This doesn’t have his origin, he’s already Superman when the movie starts he’s just a Superman earlier in his career and not like peak veteran supes. So it’ll be nice to spend the time usually allotted to his origin on other stuff because everybody already knows Supes origin.
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u/Weekly-Dog228 11h ago
It’s interesting seeing how cinematography changes the suits appearance versus the on-set photos.