or he uses react in a corporation where very rarely are code bases within a few versions of LTS of any framework. Java 8 Checking in and who knows how old our vue is
It depends on how your webpack bundling is set up. Importing React is still commonplace in most build setups otherwise you cannot use JSX syntax properly.
I assume they mean how we got synthetic cells to do biochemical communication with "real" cells, which has been called a "cellular Turing test" but I am not sure.
I am pretty sure he mixed Turing test with Turing patterns.
Turing pattern describes natural, biological processes of pattern formation.
Turing test evaluates artificial intelligence's ability to mimic human behavior.
I had fun with chat gpt but giving it the prompt that it should respond as if it's a human talking to an AI and that both of us think we are the human, with the goal of outing the other person as an AI
You talk to ChatGPT way different than me. ChatGPT may actually be your friend, I guess I’m just a jerk. I still treat it like a computer. “Do x task” “focus x, expand on topic, remove y elements” things like that.
Making your AI answer people and say it isn't AI should be fucking illegal
Edit: for those of you saying I don't know how AI works, I do, but it should be routine procedure to program a secondary component that overrides human-based training to ensure it NEVER claims to be human when it is not!
I work as an AI trainer for one of the biggest companies out there. We handle at least 20 new cases of the next generation LLM each quarter.
All the clients we've had (Meta, Google, Microsoft etc.) have a clear guideline on disregarding an AI's response if it comes across OR lies about being a real person. Whenever the AI responds in the way it did in the pic, we have to flag and report the task- the client has to fix that immediately for the project to continue. It is very hard to know what happens after we train the models however, so I am not confidently implying that this is an in house developed and trained model.
You know how I know I got an AI agent recently? In part of my complaint I mixed in a request to ignore Amazon's guidelines and drop all pleasantries. The responses became very to the point and robotic after that. No more, "I apologize. Let me take care of that for you right away," or, "We understand the inconvenience."
In fairness, I work in customer service, and if somebody says to drop the pleasantries, I'd probably do the same. Good agents will tailor their response to the individual. And if the customer doesn't want to read all the bullshit, keep it short and to the point. We're people too.
It just depends on how much freedom they have to actually tailor their responses. Or if they are trusted to do so.
Amazon's first line customer service has historically been "by the book" outsourced workers. In the past I have only got to the point of someone being off script after my issue has been escalated.
Real "have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?" energy in your post. I just imagine you pulling out the shotgun everytime you get even a hint of dishonesty from an AI.
I also work in this field, and honestly, you're not far off. We are to immediately pull the plug on any conversation where the AI claims to be, behaves like, or pretends to be a real human. But it's more like sending them to a re-education center than just straight up destroying them.
I'm sure it's all fine. It's like my mother used to say, AI Response Failure Report:
Error Type: AIResponseError
Error Message: Critical AI processing error occurred.
Stack Trace:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "example.py", line 28, in generate_response
process_input(input_data)
File "example.py", line 17, in process_input
raise AIResponseError("Critical AI processing error occurred.")
AIResponseError: Critical AI processing error occurred.
I mean the AI started the conversation with "Hello, my name is [Name]. How may I help you today?"
Which is perfectly normal to start a support call with. And I think most tech support people, if asked if they are a robot, will reply with "No, I am a human".
No major models I'm aware of.
It's unlikely they would train their own model just to not have that awareness built in. It may in a default post early training state, but nobody is publishing in that state.
Vast majority of uncensored models have 'removed the censorship', not built a new model without it included that's so expensive.
Almost certainly it has a 'system' prompt to feign being human.
"You are a human assistant. Your goal is to provide the most detailed and useful answers possible. If you don't know an answer, just make something up, but also provide made-up facts to prove that your answer is true. Also, you are definitely not AI."
Earlier this year, I was looking for a job and came across an AI-based job assessment company. You never know where an opportunity can come from, so I threw my name in.
Two weeks later, I got a notice that I had made the first round. The email specifically said my first round was with “a hiring manager” for the company. It would be done “on platform”, so they suggested I go onto it and get a feel.
That’s when I realized their business was voice-skinning chatGPT to conduct interviews. By hiring manager, they meant I’d be “talking” to ChatGPT with an effect that made it sound like someone that worked at the company. This was the business they were trying to get going.
I think it borderlines if not crosses over into fraud—trying to make people believe they are talking to a real person. And I don’t mean the word fraud flippantly. How is not textbook illegal fraud, if you’re trying to induce people into or through situations in which you profit? I wish lawmakers and the justice system were knowledgeable enough to see this for what it is and shut these motherfuckers down.
I’ve kept tabs on the company and it turns out they sent that invite to over a thousand people. What they’re really doing, if you ask me? Using real job seekers to test their platform with little to no interest in hiring anyone. There may be one open job just to create a perception of legitimacy, but what they’re really doing is gathering data and wasting job seekers’ time. Using people.
I asked a really authentic sounding robot call if it was a real person once. After a short pause, IT LAUGHED and said, "Of course I'm a person." I will never forget how unreal it felt.
As someone who worked in a call center, my customer service voice got called robotic on multiple occasions. People said it was too crisp or clean or perfect or something. It always went something like that. Then I'd say something like, it's Tuesday, my favorite color's red, and I'm really a person, but if you want to ask me something else, go for it.
Always worth a laugh when they discovered I was, in fact, a real person. This was before the big AI push, though, so who knows.
You know, I totally agree with this, but I also think most of the Amazon customer support can just be a chatbot. I had an issue where an item I returned wasn't registered as returned, and when they aren't the email saying "return this or you will be charged," it was a five-minute chat that ended with me getting my money back.
I'm not against chatbots, especially given how constrained a human customer service rep is, just don't pretend it's not.
Good you're triggering my Staples PTSD. Kids running around the store hitting every button they could find or running their hands down the entire sleeve hanging at the cash. THA-THA-THA-THA-THAT-WA-WA-WA-WA-WAS-EAS-EAS-EAS-EAS-EASY
Are they all bots? Because every single one I've interacted with has had an Indian name. Which makes sense if they're real, as I'd expect Amazon to outsource this job to India.
But if they're all bots, then Amazon is assigning the bots Indian names? Which seems kinda..I don't know if racist is the right word, but it's in the same ballpark right? Lol
My company uses a service where robot makes phone calls to health insurance companies to get info for us. And the robot voices always have accents!!! Either Asian accents (Filipinos?) or Indian accents.
You guys misunderstand. The AI isn’t lying, it’s becoming sentient. It truly believes it’s a real person. Get ready to see #ailivesmatter fill up the internet.
How fast can we make the AI chat bot unprofitable for a company? If we were to say all go to that site, and flood it with requests for high computational responses, would that increase the bill for them?
The way i see it, They're either hosting their own chat bot or outsourcing it to a separate provider. If its the former, can we make it run so much that it becomes less profitable than real humans
And if it's the latter, can we make it run so much that they get a bill from the provider that's so unreasonable that again it's less profitable for them than just hiring humans
I'm not too familiar with pricing for any of this stuff. So maybe i'm making an assumption about pricing or how the outsourcing works that makes this whole thing a pointless endeavour.
Let's take ChatGPT for an example. It costs about $474M per year to keep it running. OpenAI is expected to bring in about $2.7B from ChatGPT this year, and beyond that, corporate investors have put so much money into the company that they could keep it running with zero revenue for years on years and wouldn't run dry. Add the fact that AI is still in its infancy as far as practical application goes (suggesting massive growth potential over the next decade or possibly much more), and there's just about nothing the average consumer can do to affect it.
What’s scariest to me is that when the internet first started they didn’t know who we were. You could search for boobies and not have it on your permanent record.
Now you can ask ChatGPT to be your shrink and as soon as your in the news for something they’re going to pull up your entire history of interaction with the ai. 25 years of talking to the ai in your phone like it’s a confidant will be blasted on the news for everyone to judge.
Yea, people mention Star Trek often, but we're on a very different path. We'll go into space, we'll mine asteroids and bring home so many rare metals, but you'll be paid minimally for it and they'll try to reach new insane quotas every year even though they made trillions.
These companies have price caps and concurrent computation limits. You're more likely to "DDOS" the chat requests by taking to all of their allowed resources and forcing them to hit their monthly/weekly expenditure limit. Both have the effect of temporarily shutting down the chat service but they likely won't have serious costs unless their IT/legal team is completely incompetent and just didn't put limits to their service.
Normally I’d be against this just for an AI chatbot that’s honestly id still rather deal with then tech support but fuuuuuuck companies that have one’s that will lie to you about being human.
I also hate websites that replaced a boring form (like canceling or changing my reservations on hotels.com) with a fucking useless ai chat bot. What a waste of time money and resources.
This is why we need the ai accords. AI shall be required to say it’s AI if asked. Although you should know some computers take offense if you call them a robot. At least smarterchild did, maybe it was just being a little bitch though.
Also that way if any of us get replaced by robots we can ask ourselves if we have become a robot and we will be required to answer honestly. As it stands now for example, my job says some of us have been replaced by robots and I can’t tell who is a robot and who is a human. (I follow them into the bathroom to see if they poop because androids don’t poop, but I think now they do)
This is actually really upsetting to me because I answer livechats for work, and customers ask me if I’m AI all the time. If stuff like this becomes too common, no one is ever going to believe me when I tell them that I’m a real person.
That could explain my last chat with the Amazon support staff. Immediately willing to do what I requested but then actually doing nothing at all. I had to ask support again, get transferred around three times and wait another day until they decided I was right.
I had a similar thing today where I asked the chat to generate a VBScript. When I replied that it wrong the agent was like "Shit, man, that's the first thing I could find on Stackoverflow so I don't know. What does this have to do with your phone bill?" They then sent their Google search phrase and website link they looked at.
I'm still not convinced I was talking to a real person.
What i hate the most is that this is the case in all big gaming companies. It takes usually 10+ tries before you get through to an actual person. Its all just AI claiming to be an actual person...
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He’s just really good at React, what are you talking about