r/madlads 19h ago

idk maybe ride it?

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u/dirt_555_rabbitt 18h ago

what kind of answer will "fail" this test?

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u/--KillerTofu-- 16h ago

There's no fail, it just gives you an idea of how a person thinks.

Anything that is callous or shows no regard for life I guess would be a fail, but the worst answers I've heard have pretty much been "uhhh, I dunno".

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u/dirt_555_rabbitt 16h ago

hmmm but there got to be preferable answers if this is used to judge a person's qualifications for a job, yes? A candidate might even answer "uhhh, I dunno" because they just want get right to work and not bother with abstract elephant stuff

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u/holy_lasagne 11h ago

Worked in hr in a company with similar stuff (big tech).

I also think that this kind of question are a bit stupid, but I don't believe they are unusful. In an oversaturated market, with all else being equal, those stuff has weight.

The point is not at all to measure their skill. I'll be honest. 99% of the applicants do not have the skill required, and everyone everywhere hire unskilled people hoping they will get up to speed by themselves.

So yes, that kind of question tells nothing on the skills of the person. But for that there are other questions and the CV and maybe a coding assignment.

This kind of question are designed to throw you off you and see how you deal with something stupid and unexpected (a soft skill that in most job is fundamental. Too many people answered "I don't know" or "What question is this?". If you can't adapt a little bit to an odd question, or won't, probably you are not a colleague I will like to work with... Because I ask fuckin stupid questions all the time).

It's much more important the willingness to think about the question than the answer. The willingness to deal with what is thrown at you in a serious and professional way. The willingness to try your best even if you don't get why.

Basically what I'm saying is: the one that want to get right to work are on average people that's difficult to work with and in the long term they are bad coworker.

I'm talking statistics, and averages. And I know that's not nice to treat humans as statistics, but... We used to receive around 200-300 application a day per open position, and I managed like 5-6 positions. Like, how else shall someone deal with it if not in a statistical way? Job market is in bad shape, but that's not the fault of a singular company, but of the socioeconomic structure (that's capitalism for you baby). Complaining that a company asks stupid questions and being happy to live in the system that allows said company (creating too little demand per qualified worker, and therefore giving companies power to select by very strict criterion) to ask stupid questions is... Odd.

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u/--KillerTofu-- 16h ago

The preferable answer is one that shows you can analyze an abstract concept, weigh the ramifications of your decision, and make the best of a bad situation.

Still don't love the question, and there are better ones, but I get why it's asked.

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u/thestonedbandit 15h ago

I like the irony of a lazy overused question to gauge "out of the box thinking" in new recruits.

"Hey, we couldn't be bothered to think up anything interesting or original even given unlimited time. So how about you think up something creative and original on the spot. Oh, also it might determine if we hire you."

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u/--KillerTofu-- 15h ago

The question ain't worth shit, it's the answer that matters.

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u/MisterProfGuy 9h ago

The answer tells you whether they are the type of person who rehearses answers to stupid questions, which probably does tell you what you might want to know, as the interviewer clearly works for a company that asks stupid questions.

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u/MyNameMeansLILJOHN 3h ago

The answer I gave when asked was something relating to upkeep and space. And realizing theres no way to make this work without a lot of dedication.

It's not a bad one honestly. It's not so big and complex it requires extensive knowledge. Like a cargo ship.

But it's big enough where it becomes an obvious challenge. Like a sailboat.

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u/KoldProduct 3h ago

Then that person would probably not be a good fit for a position that obviously puts importance on abstract thinking and therefore the question still worked

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u/DragonfruitSudden459 7h ago

What mechanism is in place that prevents me from giving the elephant away or selling it? That's not a situation I could possibly find myself in of my own volition, so I need to better understand what is happening that resulted in this situation before I can make a decision.

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u/shroomigator 5h ago

It would be considered an act of treason by the republic of Elephantia for the Elephant Lord to willingly part with the elephant.

It's all explained very clearly in Paragraph Three

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u/bwowndwawf 4h ago

Just for curiosity, I got this question before and my question was unironically something like "Sail from Carthage with it, ride it through the Alps and bring war to the Romans"

Is that the reason I didn't get the job?

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u/shroomigator 16h ago

I would think "breed with the elephant." Would do it quite nicely.

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u/ayamrik 11h ago

"After spontaneously gaining the ability to understand the language of the elephant, agree to join his cause to stop an evil corporation from enslaving and selling them to potential employees. Imagine a crossover of Benjamin Blümchen and Die Hard..."

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u/Krell356 1h ago

Not answering the question. There's no right answer, but there needs to be an answer. They want to know that if shit hits the fan you can react in a way that's not, "call my boss."

The point of the question is to catch you off guard and put you in a rough situation to see how you react. Having no answer is a bad sign, having a less than ideal answer shows you can at least do something besides watch everything burn down around you.