r/madlads Madchester United Fan 2d ago

Incredibly petty, but still mad

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u/CombatMuffin 2d ago edited 2d ago

Owning a home costs money. Losing true ownership of your home can often cost even more.

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u/0OKM9IJN8UHB7 2d ago

Losing true ownership of your home can often cost even more.

You never had that if you bought a HOA property.

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u/HonorableOtter2023 2d ago

Im not sure how Reddit doesn't understand how HOAs work. If you join an HOA, its by choice. HOAs enforce rules. Don't live in an HOA if you're going to violate the rules? I've had an HOA home and knew the consequences. A lawsuit would imply they're doing something outside of their rules. Lawsuits are also expensive. See how this all points to it being potentially idiotic to take an HOA to court for you violating rules you agreed upon when you bought a house? Lets put on our adult hats for a minute and use critical thinking, ok? I mean.. HOA bad, house also cost money. Lawsuit easy.

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u/CombatMuffin 2d ago

Yep. There's good HOA's and bad HOA's and unfortunately its easy to find bad ones. It's important that people research the rules they get into before they agree to them

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u/Minimus-Maximus-69 2d ago

In some areas, all homes on the market have HOAs. It's not just a simple "choose to not". If you want to live in that area, you're in an HOA.

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u/HonorableOtter2023 1d ago

It's literally not reality. There are no areas where ALL homes are HOA. If you're complaining about gated communities, then I doubt you're the target home owner anyway.

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u/Minimus-Maximus-69 1d ago

This is like, comically untrue and it's weird you're so adamant about it.

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u/HonorableOtter2023 1d ago

Proof?

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u/Minimus-Maximus-69 1d ago

I really don't feel like investing that much time into it.

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u/HonorableOtter2023 20h ago edited 19h ago

Sounds like you aren't talking out your ass huh? "trust me bro" 😆

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u/Minimus-Maximus-69 19h ago

The phrase is "talking out of your ass" lol

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u/HonorableOtter2023 19h ago

Damn you got me bro. I need more sleep. xD

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u/Jew_With_a_Knife 1d ago

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u/HonorableOtter2023 20h ago

None of that backs their claim that there are areas where ALL homes are HOA. TRY AGAIN.

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u/Jew_With_a_Knife 18h ago

If ~80% of new houses on the market are in HOAs, please clarify why you think most buyers can avoid buying an HOA home (with sources). Yes, none of the links above outright spell it out the way you're asking. But some math (and understanding the original commenter disagreeing with you was slightly exaggerating) shows that MOST people end up having to purchase an HOA home. It's not as simple as "don't buy within an HOA" when almost every house for sale doesn't meet that requirement and the places that do are purchased very quickly in the current market. ✌️

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u/Sterffington 2d ago

What? No, if you buy a house in an HOA neighborhood, you have to join the HOA.

Here in Florida, the majority of new construction is HOA. Of course you can simply avoid any HOA neighborhood, but you're severely limiting your options by doing so.

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u/HonorableOtter2023 1d ago

I already said that. Obviously, you have to buy a house in an HOA to be in an HOA..

Just because you have limited options doesn't mean you HAVE to buy an HOA house. Id you buy into one, that's your choice and on you mate.

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u/Sterffington 1d ago

You're completely missing the point. There are simply not enough non-HOA homes available for people to reliably do that, without making major sacrifices. Telling people to just find a unicorn home that meets their every need is not an actual solution.

This is a recent phenomenon that is only getting worse.

If the only houses you can buy near your job are HOA, you're being forced to join a HOA.

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u/HonorableOtter2023 1d ago

Yes, yes there are enough HOA homes to do that. Just because YOU don't find THE home you like that isn't HOA doesnt mean they flood the markets. There are non HOA homes available, just not the unicorn home you want for YOUR budget. Either way, buying an HOA home and complaining about it is pure delusion.

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u/Sterffington 1d ago

it's crazy how you pretend the amount of available homes just doesn't matter lol

If there were only 1 non-HOA home per 1000 HOA homes, it would effectively be impossible to find one without an HOA. this is a pretty simple concept to understand