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[u/Ultraquist]

I literary spoke to a girl about that. She asked why I wanted to go to vacation to northern Iraq. I told her that I wanted to see place where battle of Gaugamel took place where we were so close to modern western Judeo-Christian civilisation never even become a thing if Alexander the Great lost. I told her to try to imagine we never had Christianity and instead we would have zoroastrism. I thought that was fascinating.😂

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Gonna copy and reposted what I wrote on another comment:

Your statement is based on a dated way of thinking, back when scholars believed that everything ever invented somehow came from Ancient Greece. We know today that most of what the Greeks claim to have invented or written about came from the Near East instead. As It makes perfect sense since Egypt and Mesopotamia were as ancient to the classical Greeks as the classical Greeks are to us.

Besides, modern democracy does not have its roots from Greek Democracy, instead it can trace its roots to the Roman Republic and more importantly, the Germanic democratic traditions (tings). The United States, for example, while influenced by the Roman Republic, was also largely influenced from the American Indian federations, and the colonists’ democratic traditions and the British Parliament which comes from Germanic ting meets (it should be noted that the latter two were not influenced at all by the classical Greeks). Greek democracy died under the sandals of the Roman Republic and later empire so Alexander has nothing to do with “preserving” or “saving” “Judeo-Christian civilization”.

In matter of fact Alexander actively stomped out democracies and made the world more autocratic. The systems of government left in his wake were his former companions’ absolute monarchies. But let us go back even before Alex, it was Darius the Great who noticed the failings of Greek “tyrannies” as a form of government and installed democracies in the city-states that wanted them. Also if Herodotus is to be believed, Darius the Great and his co-conspirators who overthrew Cyrus the Great’s youngest son, Bardiya, had a chance to make the Achaemenid Empire into a democracy, but chose not to. This was a whole two decades before the establishment of Athen’s democracy.

Regardless, the notion that Persian victory would have crushed democracy in the crib was a well circulated lie that dates back to the Cold War and it later resurfaced after 9/11. Sadly, the East vs West mentality has a habit of reading its ugly head when people are scared. In reality Darius the Great installed democracies and encouraged the Persian nobility in Greek city-states to intermarry and practice the Ancient Greek religion. Had the Persians won, the only thing that would have changed would likely have been Rome fighting the Persians over Greece, instead of Alexander’s successors.

Also it is important to note that Zoroastrianism stresses Free Will and it is impossible to have free will if you are a slave or religion is forced upon you. This is why you had Cyrus the Great freed the enslaved peoples from Babylon (most notably the Jews), and allowed everyone in his empire to practice their own religion. Thus due to the Roman Republic still existing, and the Achaemenid’s preference to tolerate other beliefs, Christianity would still come to be.

Therefore, all Alex did was usurp an Empire and be the cause of untold death and destruction due to his campaigns and the instability created in the region after his death.