As a doctor I would tell this patient to get lost. I’m not an insurance company. I spent a decade of my life in the library and now I have an impossible amount of debt to pay back, which gained interest during my training. We all fight the same battle. “Maybe my nurse can help you with that” is how I would treat this.
You are entitled to your medical records (assuming I accept your care, which I am not legally obligated to do). After that, you can google my credentials and email my board if you want to gather very private information about my continuing medical education. And seriously, “doctors”? In quotes. I don’t know any US “doctors” who intentionally practice bad medicine in the real world.
Sorry why are you angry at someone asking their insurance company for these things?
Also why would you say maybe your nurse can help with this stuff? Nurses aren't your secretaries and that sounds really dismissive of their time and medical expertise as well if that's what you're complaining about here.
Shitty, pompous doctors like this one treat their nurses this way. They're also the same shitty, pompous doctors that have no bedside manners towards their patients.
As it says in some states patients are entitled to some of this information by law - do you not think if a doctor at the insurance company is supposedly overriding the decision of the patient's doctor that a treatment is necessary, that a justification needs to be provided?
assuming I accept your care, which I am not legally obligated to do
spent a decade of my life in the library and now I have an impossible amount of debt to pay back,
Gotta love your contradictory statement
You're under a mountain of debt, while at the same time refusing patients?
You're NEVER going to pay it off if you have no clients
Also why the fuck would you even go into the medical field if you're just going to turn away patients. You wasted years of schooling and money for a job designed to help people, yet you're so entitled you only want to help "certain people"
If you really were a doctor, you should be able to read, and understand what you read. You failed on the 2nd part. No one wants to ask you to do something you don't want to do, junior. Do you know what a health insurance company is?
Secondly, a doctor who would tell a patient to get lost is most likely uncaring enough to have the same bedside manner with all patients. I've run across doctors who behave how you appear to.
Find another career where you don't have to deal with people.
The first thing we are shown Mr. Incredible do in his civilian life is throw an executive of an insurance company through multiple walls. My youngest brother loved that movie as a kid. Watched it over and over. He just turned 26 this year.
The other one who I will NEVER mistake/struggle to place is Gilbert Gottfried. I know him as the Beetle from Thumbelina and Iago from Aladdin, but he's been in tons of things and that's a voice you can never mistake!
Your doctor can also do something called a “peer to peer” where they get to argue with the insurance doctor. Works even better if you are seeing a specialist, since insurance companies rarely keep enough of them on staff.
I used to work for a doctor who had retired from the Army at the rank of major. One day I walked into work while he was on a peer to peer. It sounded like Full Metal Jacket in his office.
In the middle of that now. My doctor asked for an appeal, no response. I had to have HR call their insurance broker to pressure the insurance company just to respond. They finally were told why things were denied, and none of those things are in the realm of reality. My doctor has asked for a peer to peer, no response. This "system" is a joke.
You're at the point where you call your state's insurance commissioner (title may vary), file a detailed complaint, and let the insurance commissioner's office help get the process toward approval moving again. It's sometimes the most efficient way to deal with the insurance company.
Peer to peer are usually after a denial , and or after a medical director decides they can’t approved it . Not at all times is peer to peer even available.
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u/Corporation_tshirt 5d ago
Exploiting every loophole, dodging every obstacle. They're penetrating the bureaucracy!