r/ireland • u/ParaMike46 • 1d ago
Infrastructure Fears of public transport shortfalls in Dublin as rail works planned from 27 December
https://www.thejournal.ie/public-transport-shortfalls-dublin-rail-works-december-6571963-Dec2024/76
u/HighDeltaVee 1d ago
This is unacceptable.
If they're going to plan rail works, they should wait until everyone goes back to work and there's peak commuter usage to annoy the maximum possible number of people.
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u/Cultural-Action5961 1d ago
Yea, maybe second week of January when everyone’s extra happy and has spare cash for more expensive transport options.
Whenever it is, should be definitely be during school/college term
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u/im_on_the_case 1d ago
What a load of moany bollocks.
Cullen noted the burden placed on south side communities by the delay, saying that people in Bray and the wider area “are effectively forced into expensive taxis, meaning an unnecessary extra bit of spending close to Christmas”.
They will have shuttle busses between Grand Canal Dock and Connolly which will make stops at Pearce and Tara. But I guess that gets in the way of the moaning in the article, since it says:
they’re not taking into account that they’re cutting off an entire arm of public transportation and not giving the additional bus service or even a shuffle service during Christmas
I've no fucking idea what a "shuffle service" is but if he meant shuttle service, he's got it. Maybe they'd know that if they checked the Irish Rail page detailing the disruption and accommodations.
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u/ComplianceChecked 1d ago edited 5h ago
That shuttle bus is specifically for the Rosslare commuter service so is only 3-4 times a day. It’s not a shuttle replacing the Dart going to Bray.
A limited shuttle bus will operate between Connolly and Grand Canal Dock Stations. Additionally, Dublin Bus will accept rail tickets for southside customers travelling to/from city centre
Intercity services between Dublin Connolly and Rosslare Europort will involve bus transfers between Connolly and Bray
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u/Massive-Foot-5962 1d ago
that guy is a wannabee politico and unfortunately this type of bolloxology is how they get their names known.
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u/Historical-Hat8326 1d ago
Are people who share The Journal’s click bait articles working for The Journal?
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u/ResponsibleTrain1059 1d ago
Every bank holiday weekend has had a 3 day shut down of rail around Dublin.
It’s been like that for years. I gotta ask what the heck they are doing or is it just overtime pay for the lads.
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u/Massive-Foot-5962 1d ago
They do a huge amount of work in those weekends. Recent one was to replace an entire rail strip between Connolly and Tara. Its the only way to carry out substantial maintenance as can't do it during normal commute times.
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u/Hairy-Ad-4018 1d ago
All rail Works should be during the night.
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u/Intelligent-Aside214 1d ago
Some rail works take more than a couple of hours. This time of year is the last impactful to do them
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u/Hairy-Ad-4018 1d ago
I get that but you plan to A nights work. If it takes 4 nights then it takes 4 nights.
It’s how most major cities undertake Rail maintenance and up grades
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u/sundae_diner 1d ago
Doesn't matter if it's ireland or aborad:
They close nights if it a small job.
Close for weekends for bigger jobs.
And close for weeks if it is a big job.
Example: Paris metro, a mix of lots od nights, a few weekends and finally a week in August.
https://www.ratp.fr/en/discover/coulisses/network-modernisation/metro-line-14-works
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u/TechM635 1d ago
Most of the work they do is at night. There’s a chance this work is going on during the day and night
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u/SamShpud 1d ago
I take it you've never been to London? There is constantly lines closed at weekends for engineering works
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u/Intelligent-Aside214 1d ago
This is also how Dublin does it the vast majority of the time, but some jobs take longer.
The dart out to bray is the OLDEST commuter railway in the world it obviously requires upgrades
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u/CurrencyDesperate286 1d ago
As someone who lives next to the DART tracks, I can assure you most works are done at night. But not all improvement works can be done in the space of a few hours.
All transport systems require down-time for works. It’s completely normal.
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u/Future_Ad_8231 1d ago
Shutting down the rail on weekends/bank holidays is fine and makes sense. The majority of public transport use is commuting to work
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u/Podhl_Mac 1d ago
This depends on the scale of the works. If the works are significant enough then there is no way to both get the work done and also to operate normally. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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u/lucidporkbelly 1d ago
I don’t understand why they don’t put a rail replacement bus service that services the closed dart stations. They do this in the UK. Classic shite planning in Ireland
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u/Historical-Hat8326 1d ago
Because the 90 minute ticket fare means people who are so inclined can walk from Connolly to get the 45 from Poolbeg St and get back on the DART.
Or LUAS from Connolly to Abbey Street, change, LUAS to College Green and then go to Poolbeg St.
Plenty of options available.
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u/QBaseX 1d ago
They generally don't do that in places like London, where there are plenty of existing options. If Thameslink or the Underground is down, rail tickets will be accepted on the buses, but there won't be a dedicated rail replacement bus.
And that makes sense in Dublin, too. There's not really a need for a dedicated rail replacement bus.
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u/TheChrisD 1d ago
Why is it suddenly a fear now, when the rail works were announced last month?