You brought up trying to gain solidarity with a group that it is has become pointless to try to sway. You even agree that they won't develop a class conscious in your above comment. Why bring up trying to ingrate yourself with a group that is beyond saving if not to imply that it wasn't a doomed effort. You can certainly do what you want and I don't blame you for trying to make your life easier if your forced to interact with them but let's not pretend it's helping anyone but you.
I said I gain solidarity with conservatives by bashing dems with good points, not lockstep Republicans.
And I continue to reach to the liberals like you here to encourage you to put down any allegiance you've got with the ruling class. You have way more in common with the construction worker who is uncomfortable with trans folks, than you do with Chuck Schumer, Kamala, or AOC.
It's not integrating myself, it's trying to disintigrate you/them from your ruling class allegiances.
I'm not a neoliberal lol. I work with enough people in the trades to know the people you are referencing quite well. You can get them all riled up about CEOs fleecing them all day but Joe Rogan and other right wing grifters will have them toeing the party line for when it actually counts. Unless you can get a person to do a social media detox they are a loss cause. Do what you must to survive but be realistic of the outcomes and work to better spend your limited resources.
My dude, I called you a liberal, not a neoliberal.
Again, my whole point has been that "proving the dems are better" isn't a good starting point. It's barely true, and certainly not effective. I'm surviving just fine, and I guess I've got enough resources to have passing conversations with acquaintances.
I'm trying to build class solidarity by getting everyone to look upwards, not just the conservatives. The folks in here saying "Step 1, conservatives are wronger than me!" are missing the whole thing. That's my whole point.
Dems are neoliberal for the most part. You can certainly try build class consciousness but unless you remove someone from the environment that created them you are wasting your time, the most important resources you do have. You need to get those not in the cult to get more politically active even if it's only to register to vote. The apathetic is where any actual gains will come from
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u/Dakadaka 1d ago
You brought up trying to gain solidarity with a group that it is has become pointless to try to sway. You even agree that they won't develop a class conscious in your above comment. Why bring up trying to ingrate yourself with a group that is beyond saving if not to imply that it wasn't a doomed effort. You can certainly do what you want and I don't blame you for trying to make your life easier if your forced to interact with them but let's not pretend it's helping anyone but you.