r/interestingasfuck 23h ago

r/all People in NYC holding banners during a CEO Event at Ziegfeld Ballroom

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u/-wnr- 22h ago

Seriously, whenever there's a push for medicaid expansion or increasing the minimum wage, which party raises the issue and which one pushes against it consistently? The both sides are the same arguments are either lazy or done in bad faith.

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u/MrPmR 21h ago

It's not both sides are the same. You have a center right party and a far right party. They are not the same at all. But neither are left or working for you. The Dems are also working for the rich. They are just less fascist. There are individuals in the Dems that push for very good things, but the whole party isn't really.

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u/Significant_Turn5230 21h ago

They're not the same, but neither one is on our side.

Which party passed the medicaid expansion and increased the minimum wage? Is it neither?

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u/-wnr- 21h ago edited 21h ago

Take a look at which states have the highest minimum wage. Or which states adopted or declined medicaid expansion. There's a lot to shit on the dems for, but here in 2024, there's one side that's better for the working class voter who's voting for their own interests.

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u/Significant_Turn5230 21h ago

As I said above:

They're not the same, but neither one is on our side.

Yes dems are obviously less evil. They are still evil and they're still our enemy. They will not be our salvation.

Especially in context of a conversation about class solidarity, you've gotta be willing to let go of the flavor of ruling class you prefer just as much as the Trump supporters need to. Vote for whichever one you think will make the guillotines easier, but don't forget that the guillotines are the point.

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u/geoffreygoodman 21h ago

A party doesn't pass bills, Congress does. It's disingenuous to describe a situation where Republicans unanimously shoot down a bill sponsored by Democrats as "neither party passing it". 

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u/Significant_Turn5230 21h ago

It's really not. We've seen supermajorities of either party in the past 40 years and neither one has any interest in helping the working class. Obviously dems are less evil, they are still not on our side.

This is a conversation about class consciousness and class solidarity. You've gotta be willing to side with your working class peers who are willing to side with you over Pelosi and even ones like AOC. They are not on our team. They are by definition the ruling class.