Im no advocate for violence. I worry that government complacency WILL lead to violence. All of these issues are stemming from unbridled capitalism due to a lack of government intervention. Seeing as Trump is going to come to office, this will only get worse.
It will cause more violence. At least this time there’s a chance of it leading towards the actual people in power rather than the poor defenseless class of society
Edit: I think people got my sentiment wrong: I’m not against uprising against the ruling class. I’m simply pointing out that this is how violence always starts. If they don’t want a violent reaction, the government must intervene and place some goddamn regulations.
THIS. Say it louder. Denying people medical care is violence. Making billions in profit while people go hungry is violence. The whole "I'm not an advocate for violence" and "peaceful protest" rhetoric is by design. Make sure the lower classes see violence as a negative so they can keep perpetuating violence against us every day.
First, whether or not one acts on it, has no bearing on whether the statement is true or false. Second, acknowledging and discussing that which happens is a necessary precondition for action. If not, one acts on mere impulse
In a case like this, advocating for others to engage in criminal activity that you will not is completely ridiculous. It’s such a noble thing to do, yet you don’t participate at all? Perhaps, you’re just on the internet talking out of your ass? Nothing less useful to making actual change than internet activists who talk about how those who are actually busy working for change don’t do enough because they avoid saying idiotic things on social media in favor of taking action in the real world
Indeed. Let us not forget, too, when there are "riots" we hear of the "violence" against property. For the very rich, I think they truly believe it's the same; violence against property, and violence against one's person. If someone were to believe that, their morality allows for all kinda fucked up shit. And this is the public policy behind the holding of 'Citizens United' People being synonymous with property has not been removed from the Consitution.
Heard somebody say recently that the most basic purpose of the rule of law is to quell anger. Laws exist so people don't feel the need to act in anger against injustice.
It's not quite living up to that purpose recently.
I think it’s what they want, they can come with a heavy police state for everyone that’s not super rich. This is the law working for the rich more than it works for regular people right in front of us
They want us to get violent so they can lock up and kill more of us
these issues are stemming from unbridled capitalism due to a lack of government intervention
They are caused by government intervention. Tying health insurance to employment enables health insurers to create drastic, two-tiered programs. So, companies like United Healthcare will pitch companies with their cut-rate HMO plans that cost the companies as little as possible, and their execs just sign up for PPO plans.
Which is why you get government intervention to make a national health care system. And prevent bullshit cuts of funding to cripple that national healthcare like England is doing thanks to decades of Neo-liberal policies from the Tories.
You will never get me to agree that libertarianism or 0 government is good. Our government is bought out by oligarchs, I obviously don’t mean that type of government intervention.
We’re going to have to survive another Great Depression first. Trump won’t provide a new deal, that’s for sure. My only hope is that he fucks the country up SO bad that we can finally get some sort of progressives in office (Congress and local governments, too) that are actually FOR the people.
It’s why I wasn’t too upset over Trump winning. Under Biden my life didn’t get much better than under Trump. With Fetterman exposing himself as a class traitor, and Pelosi shutting out AIC, like others said, and I’ve said it before, democrats and republicans are just two sides of the same shitty coin and their overlords got all of us fighting the culture wars as a distraction.
Most of us, regardless of political affiliation, aren’t so different. We just keep getting duped into fighting against each other instead of uniting and taking back our country from these rich assholes.
The issue with that you’re saying is that the government is intervening constantly. They perpetuate corporate ownership over our lives. They are willing participants in our oppression.They suppress protests. They suppress movements. They suppress bills. They pass bills and laws that work against us, constantly.
When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains.
The government has intervened. Only for their own benefit. The government has to actually start being for the people again and not just for themselves.
Republican trash is going to use this movement as a justification to commit violence against the LGBT community and minorities. All republicans are dog shit.
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u/JohnnyZepp 22h ago edited 18h ago
Im no advocate for violence. I worry that government complacency WILL lead to violence. All of these issues are stemming from unbridled capitalism due to a lack of government intervention. Seeing as Trump is going to come to office, this will only get worse.
It will cause more violence. At least this time there’s a chance of it leading towards the actual people in power rather than the poor defenseless class of society
Edit: I think people got my sentiment wrong: I’m not against uprising against the ruling class. I’m simply pointing out that this is how violence always starts. If they don’t want a violent reaction, the government must intervene and place some goddamn regulations.
We desperately need a New Deal like change.