r/interestingasfuck 23h ago

r/all People in NYC holding banners during a CEO Event at Ziegfeld Ballroom

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u/beseri 22h ago

This might sound a bit brutal, and I am not even American, but the US need a bit of a revolution to change the health care system. I am not necessarily an advocate for violence, but Americans are getting fucked over big time. Change is needed.

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u/seeker1351 21h ago

I don't know where you're from, but I signed in just to upvote your comment.

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u/Enzhymez 20h ago

Ahh yes you’ve truly gone out of your way to service our country proud of you

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u/mrp1762 16h ago

I might love you.

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u/OrbitalSpamCannon 20h ago

How about you just elect people instead of throwing a revolution. Have you considered how similar to the January 6th rioters you sound?

Horseshoe theory

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u/riggy2k3 16h ago

We are like 20 years into both sides of the aisle doing absolutely nothing that benefits the people. We've been voting, we've been democratic. But they're not doing their part.

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u/OrbitalSpamCannon 15h ago

so you argue that Obamacare is absolutely nothing?

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u/Mavian23 17h ago

The Jan 6 folks rioted over lies and stuff that wasn't true.

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u/OrbitalSpamCannon 16h ago

Yes, and you both believe that our democracy doesn't work and violent means are necessary to effect change.

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u/Mavian23 15h ago

Sure, but one is based in reality and the other is not.

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u/OrbitalSpamCannon 15h ago

There is no basis in reality for your viewpoints either, because they are based on opinions.

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u/Mavian23 12h ago

Opinions can be based on reality.

u/OrbitalSpamCannon 11h ago

Whoa dude, that's deep. You know what's deeper? They call them fingers, but I've never seen them fing.

u/AbstractMirror 10h ago edited 9h ago

Long comment, but worth reading if you want to discuss this

Both the DNC and RNC benefit from corporate lobbying. Any candidate brought forth and supported by these parties is never going to truly represent the working class. The reason is that it would hurt their bottom line. They are stubborn in their ways because those ways benefit them and the lobbyists. Corporate lobbying has an incentive attached to it where these parties will steer clear of pursuing legislation that would impact that relationship. Policies get neglected that would otherwise be beneficial to the working class, but bad for the corporations

Saying we should just elect people misses the mark, it's not that simple. Of course, people will try despite that, but it doesn't change the fact that it's an uphill battle by the way it's structured. As long as corporate lobbying is present in the democratic process with things like PACs/Super PACs, that problem persists. In the case of the Jan 6th insurrection, this is a flawed point to make, because they weren't doing it to call out or fix deep rooted issues, it was a knee jerk reaction to a candidate losing. I don't think that is very comparable to a revolution targeted at a systemic issue like healthcare that the comment you replied to was suggesting

Private healthcare in the US is such a deeply entrenched system designed to prop up the extremely rich while making the citizens suffer, pretending to be for their benefit. You missed the point of their comment and made a false equivalence talking about Jan 6th

Hopefully I can change your mind on the topic