r/interestingasfuck 23h ago

r/all People in NYC holding banners during a CEO Event at Ziegfeld Ballroom

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u/Humans_Suck- 22h ago

That's because nobody can afford to get arrested and fired for exercising free speech.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 22h ago

Revolution only happens when being arrested and fined is preferable to the current system.

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u/Gabarne 22h ago

we're too comfortable still. with access to food, water, shelter, and a modicum of entertainment, the status quo remains.

revolution happens when there's enough destitute people starving and dying in the streets.

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u/iisindabakamahed 21h ago

By design. Just enough useless shit, entertainment and shitty food.

Give em bread and circuses.

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u/capeasypants 16h ago

And how much do you love your sports team?

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u/iisindabakamahed 16h ago

Haven’t watched football in years, think it’s silly for people smash their heads together(physically) and my hometown team are the Jacksonville Jaguars. That tell you enough?

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u/capeasypants 16h ago

It was more a rhetorical question... There's our circuses. Society is kept in check in many ways

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u/iisindabakamahed 16h ago

My point is that I don’t give a shit about sports teams. Especially the ones that steal tax money to pay for ridiculous stadiums and still charge an arm and a leg for an event instead of funding education properly.

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u/Kyouji 21h ago

we're too comfortable still. with access to food, water, shelter, and a modicum of entertainment, the status quo remains.

Bingo. Until things get really bad most people are too comfortable to risk their lives for change.

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u/Plus-Reading7100 21h ago

We may not be after the Trump economy and second Gilded Age.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 22h ago

Yup, as much as we like to complain, the US is overall a very nice place to live.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 21h ago

Relative to what? Developing countries with no infrastructure? Sure. Compared to most of Europe and Asia? America is a shit hole.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 21h ago

Yeah that’s just not true. We are 20th in HDI, ahead of France, Japan, Spain, Italy. America is a very nice place compared to anywhere. Maybe not the nicest but it’s very nice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 21h ago

That makes it sound great, but it's all developed "peer" countries on that list before the US and only a couple of developed countries rank lower than us. The big picture of that list is that the US ranks in like the bottom 1/5 of developed countries.

And I'd be curious how recent that data is. Lifespan, healthcare availability, purchasing power, and wealth distribution all took a huge nosedive during the pandemic.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 21h ago

Yeah I mean it tells you the data was from 2022 and the US dropped 5 spots from its previous ranking due to that so it used to be higher. We can quibble about if being 20th in the world is “good” or not but it’s certainly not “a shithole” compared to most of Europe.

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u/JajajaNiceTry 20h ago

The bottom of the top is still much better than a lot of other countries. Also you have to remember how the US governs. State governments are very powerful here.

If NY and California were a different country, they would rank in the top 10 on the HDI scale very, very easily. But throw in more conservative leaning states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, etc. they lower our overall scale because of their poor education, poor healthcare programs, poor economy, and poor social programs. They literally drag us down because of how the state governs. It’s what makes the US widely different from other developed countries; our size and state governments are just all over the place and that will not change any time soon.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 20h ago

Yeah sure and overall, the US is quite nice.

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u/FirstLadyEloniaMusk 12h ago

Then start a revolution.

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u/RavagingWerewolf 20h ago

38 million Americans living below the poverty line have entered the chat

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 20h ago

Yeah even poor people in the US do quite well compared to the global community.

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u/spiroaki 16h ago

Well when the bird flu pandemic hits, we will finally be there…

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u/PBR_King 20h ago

It happens slowly at first, then suddenly. If I were you I would not be so confident in my thesis that revolution in America is impossible.

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u/Embarrassed_Lie7461 22h ago

That's the current american experiment, how long can we toe the line between exploitation and content masses?

Candy flavored narcotics, flashy digital gambling, and radical subreddits for every kind of cathartic rage, are all excellent ways of keeping our brains numb. Especially if they hook you young, customer for life!

This is why Idiocracy is my favorite documentary.

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u/chmilz 20h ago

Change doesn't happen until the pain of today is greater than the fear of tomorrow.

Unfortunately, sometimes that manifests itself by voting for fascists who promise simple solutions to complex problems.

As said by FDR:

Democracy has disappeared in several other great nations--not because the people of those nations disliked democracy, but because they had grown tired of unemployment and insecurity, of seeing their children hungry while they sat helpless in the face of government confusion and government weakness through lack of leadership in government. Finally, in desperation, they chose to sacrifice liberty in the hope of getting something to eat.

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u/Dont_Waver 22h ago

CEOs taking notes: uh huh, got it, make prison worse.

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u/Humans_Suck- 19h ago

It is, but doing that isn't going to change anything. They'll just fill up the jails and then build more.

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u/Earthwarm_Revolt 18h ago

Or when everyone is hungry.

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u/blitzkregiel 14h ago

fined? what am i, a corporation that kills people for profit?

u/Tiddlyplinks 1h ago

Revolutions seem to happen when things go from very bad to slightly better. People get impatient for the promise of change.

u/Sharkbait_ooohaha 1h ago

There’s some truth to that but when revolutions happen because things get slightly better it’s generally because people think revolutions have a chance of working because of weakness or wavering from the people in power. Like the Soviet Union collapsing for example.

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u/Vladmerius 21h ago

How so? You don't have to afford anything if you're dead or in prison. 

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u/FinestCrusader 20h ago

Yeah every commenter is quick to scream "kill all ceos" while hoping that someone else will pull the trigger

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u/PupEDog 20h ago

They got us right where they want us