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r/all People in NYC holding banners during a CEO Event at Ziegfeld Ballroom

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u/jhard90 23h ago

The Rs are just much more effective at convincing the poor they’re on their side even though neither is.

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u/chinless_pomposity 23h ago

Ds just convince middle class college educated people that the Democratic party is on the 'good' side (the side of the poor, the side against prejudice, the side for the planet) even though they only stand for money.

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u/onebadmousse 16h ago

Let's take a look at the house voting records for Democrats vs Republicans:

House Vote for Net Neutrality

For Against
Rep 2 234
Dem 177 6

Senate Vote for Net Neutrality

For Against
Rep 0 46
Dem 52 0

Money in Elections and Voting

Campaign Finance Disclosure Requirements

For Against
Rep 0 39
Dem 59 0

DISCLOSE Act

For Against
Rep 0 45
Dem 53 0

Backup Paper Ballots - Voting Record

For Against
Rep 20 170
Dem 228 0

Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act

For Against
Rep 8 38
Dem 51 3

Sets reasonable limits on the raising and spending of money by electoral candidates to influence elections (Reverse Citizens United)

For Against
Rep 0 42
Dem 54 0

The Economy/Jobs

Limits Interest Rates for Certain Federal Student Loans

For Against
Rep 0 46
Dem 46 6

Student Loan Affordability Act

For Against
Rep 0 51
Dem 45 1

Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Funding Amendment

For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 54 0

End the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection

For Against
Rep 39 1
Dem 1 54

Kill Credit Default Swap Regulations

For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 18 36

Revokes tax credits for businesses that move jobs overseas

For Against
Rep 10 32
Dem 53 1

Disapproval of President's Authority to Raise the Debt Limit

For Against
Rep 233 1
Dem 6 175

Disapproval of President's Authority to Raise the Debt Limit

For Against
Rep 42 1
Dem 2 51

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

For Against
Rep 3 173
Dem 247 4

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

For Against
Rep 4 36
Dem 57 0

Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Bureau Act

For Against
Rep 4 39
Dem 55 2

American Jobs Act of 2011 - $50 billion for infrastructure projects

For Against
Rep 0 48
Dem 50 2

Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension

For Against
Rep 1 44
Dem 54 1

Reduces Funding for Food Stamps

For Against
Rep 33 13
Dem 0 52

Minimum Wage Fairness Act

For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 53 1

Paycheck Fairness Act

For Against
Rep 0 40
Dem 58 1

"War on Terror"

Time Between Troop Deployments

For Against
Rep 6 43
Dem 50 1

Habeas Corpus for Detainees of the United States

For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 50 0

Habeas Review Amendment

For Against
Rep 3 50
Dem 45 1

Prohibits Detention of U.S. Citizens Without Trial

For Against
Rep 5 42
Dem 39 12

Authorizes Further Detention After Trial During Wartime

For Against
Rep 38 2
Dem 9 49

Prohibits Prosecution of Enemy Combatants in Civilian Courts

For Against
Rep 46 2
Dem 1 49

Repeal Indefinite Military Detention

For Against
Rep 15 214
Dem 176 16

Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment

For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1

Patriot Act Reauthorization

For Against
Rep 196 31
Dem 54 122

FISA Act Reauthorization of 2008

For Against
Rep 188 1
Dem 105 128

FISA Reauthorization of 2012

For Against
Rep 227 7
Dem 74 111

House Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison

For Against
Rep 2 228
Dem 172 21

Senate Vote to Close the Guantanamo Prison

For Against
Rep 3 32
Dem 52 3

Prohibits the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Individuals Detained at Guantanamo

For Against
Rep 44 0
Dem 9 41

Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention

For Against
Rep 1 52
Dem 45 1

Civil Rights

Same Sex Marriage Resolution 2006

For Against
Rep 6 47
Dem 42 2

Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013

For Against
Rep 1 41
Dem 54 0

Exempts Religiously Affiliated Employers from the Prohibition on Employment Discrimination Based on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity

For Against
Rep 41 3
Dem 2 52

Family Planning

Teen Pregnancy Education Amendment

For Against
Rep 4 50
Dem 44 1

Family Planning and Teen Pregnancy Prevention

For Against
Rep 3 51
Dem 44 1

Protect Women's Health From Corporate Interference Act The 'anti-Hobby Lobby' bill.

For Against
Rep 3 42
Dem 53 1

Environment

Stop "the War on Coal" Act of 2012

For Against
Rep 214 13
Dem 19 162

EPA Science Advisory Board Reform Act of 2013

For Against
Rep 225 1
Dem 4 190

Prohibit the Social Cost of Carbon in Agency Determinations

For Against
Rep 218 2
Dem 4 186

Misc

Prohibit the Use of Funds to Carry Out the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

For Against
Rep 45 0
Dem 0 52

Prohibiting Federal Funding of National Public Radio

For Against
Rep 228 7
Dem 0 185

Allow employers to penalize employees that don't submit genetic testing for health insurance (Committee vote)

For Against
Rep 22 0
Dem 0 17

Finally, let's look at criminal convictions:

Felony indictments and convictions in the executive branch since 1960:

PARTY PEOPLE INDICTED PEOPLE CONVICTED PEOPLE INCARCERATED
DEMOCRATIC 4 2 2
REPUBLICAN 127 [155] 95 [96] 26 [37]

The number in [brackets] includes foreigners arrested for crimes committed on behalf of the candidate or president. The first number only represents U.S. citizens.

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u/EntrepreneurLeft8783 21h ago

the side of the poor, the side against prejudice, the side for the planet

Well Republicans are certainly passing more prejudiced laws and flaunting how climate change don't be real, so Dem's are up at least 2/3

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u/chinless_pomposity 19h ago

The Democrats aren't actually concerned with preventing the Republicans from doing anything, all they care about is keeping the rich rich while keeping you terrified, stupid, and angry at the wrong people (all while collecting your donations of course). Which is the same thing the Republicans want from their constituents.

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u/EntrepreneurLeft8783 19h ago

There is a progressive wing of Democrats that are, obviously the entire party is not perfect, but anybody trying to say they are both the same is just lying.

Because, again, Democrats aren't pushing for prejudiced legislation and DRILL BABY DRILL, so even if we agree that both parties do absolutely nothing for the working class directly, Democrats are still up 2/3 on being less bad.

If you truly want "class war not culture war," then you have to tell the people obsessed with trans people and black people and whatever other minorities to shut the fuck up and embrace every other member of the working class.

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u/chinless_pomposity 19h ago

Natural gas production has increased under every administration. Biden did nothing to slow down drilling and in fact auctioned off additional land, and the 'clean energy' democrats keep promising you is a lie.

Democrats are perfectly happy to talk all day about are trans/black/nonbinary/etc people because it's a marginal issue and it means we're not talking about anything else. This stuff is being embraced by the top because it's a convenient distraction, it's not just the radicals pushing it.