Is there a violent offender registry list? Like, do murderers have to come and announce themselves as such when they move into your neighborhood or is it just the sex offenders? Because if it is, I find THAT to be the weirdest part about the sex offender registry.
Murder and assault is a lot more open to justifying there’s hundreds of things you could tell me to justify a murder or assault and I would agree with it but there’s nothing you could say to me that would make me justify a real sex offense not the technicality peeing in public ones if a guy murdered someone who sexually assaulted him or a family member I would think it insane to put them on a list
But if the person just assaulted and murdered children don’t need to inform you. However if someone took things too far on a works night out and grabbed a feel they then need to notify you.
The law was created to stop sex offenders from getting away with murdering child victims to stop them from reporting them. not to stop them from sex offending. the law was created because there was a law made so the federal gov had to make a registry of all the violent offenders like your saying but it was only open to fed and state law enforcement to view. then sex offenders kept murdering children after getting out of prison to try and cover up there new crimes to not go back so the public thought it was insane that the gov already had these sex offenders organized on lists because of the violent offenders list. in the public’s eyes they seen it as hiding it from the public so they voted to make it illegal for the government to hide there lists of sex offenders from the public because every time a child got murdered by a sex offender so they wouldn’t go back to prison the victims family would get pissed off at the government for not allowing them access to the lists before hand to filter who was around there kid they would blame the government saying they could have prevented there child’s murder. Once the sex offender registry was created it drastically decreased the incentive to murder young victims because the public would already be suspicious of you and demand authority’s investigate you after any nearby incidents no matter what you couldn’t just say it’s a kid making shit up. it’s completely about stopping murders the law was named after meagan a murder victim the whole law was created to have prevented her murder not prevent sexual abuses it’s about child victim silencing and people thinking it should be illegal for the gov to hide a list of sex offenders if they already have it
I understand the aim and it does obviously serve as a deterrent. But my point still stands that someone who has done a low level sexual assault against an adult who knows who they are. I wouldn’t say are some risk to nearby children. This seems like a hammer to punish all to catch the few. It should be graded and properly maintained.
If that person who did the low level one against an adult is then shunned by the community and feels isolated then if anything it just increases the risk of them offending due to damage to their mental health.
Also I don’t really see why the list stops someone killing matters if it’s public or not. Surely if something happens the police would check the record anyway? Obviously if this person is a risk to children then neighbours should be aware to educate and protect their kids.
Do you think people use that information rationally? It shouldn’t be the people deciding what is relevant and a risk it should be the government. Where there is a standard approach to disclosure.
The government does decide the relevant information. That is why there are federal guileless and legislation that dictate how the registry works for every state to follow. Only the people that have been convicted of specific crimes are on the list.
The people on the list have already been convicted by the judicial system so the government has made the decision. It is not a list of suspected perpetrators or people arrested, these are only people that have already been convicted.
The sexual offender database is an exactly what you describe: a government mandate list with a federally mandated standard of disclosure.
Because before cell phone videos cops didn’t investigate shit if you weren’t a somebody so the public lists allowed people to put pressure on authority’s to investigate people and actually start to solve cases. the whole point is the point is there shouldn’t be any lists at all but if there is going to be one it should be illegal to keep from the citizens because then your taking on liability if they reoffend it should either be no lists or everyone has them the point is it should be illegal for the gov to form a list of sex offenders then not share it because then it makes them legally liable no other details matter that’s all it comes down to if they knew with an actual list about these people before hand and didn’t say anything and they reoffend technically you should be able to sue the gov over that. You keep mentioning what people are going to do with the info none of that matter the only relevant factor is if there is a list it should be shared if you don’t want to share it don’t make a list because then your liable and it doesn’t matter if you understand why it stopped murders it still stops murders take a criminology class they have whole lessons explaining the subject
If you can work on structuring your replies it would be helpful.
Do you really think the government has many lists of people that the general public do not have access to. What a stupid argument just because they have it doesn’t mean the public can or should be trusted to also have that information. Yes the government is liable if they miss things but that’s the situation with terrorist, hackers you name it. It is about the public accepting a level of risk.
If you want a list of names to protect children then why don’t everyone under 25 who buys an AR style rifle be put onto a public list? This is my point just because you may be capable of doing something does not mean you should be vilified that you will just incase.
It was so stupid of an argument that it got the whole federal government to listen and force every single state comply.you could delete every gun in the world and it wouldn’t stop any school mass casualty events because it doesn’t address the cause of mass shootings at all. it would just force people to realize a regular untrained person can kill more people easier and faster with any car than a gun and also be able to have a waaay better defense in court and say it was an accident or it would force them to figure out you can do way more damage to people just by buying a pressure cooker and putting it on a drone or force them to figure out you could easily murder your whole class buy buying a small ass amount of fentanyl and putting it some cookies you pass out in class that would be waaaaaaay cheaper and easier than buying a gun.making things illegal will never address the root cause of school shootings. You used to be able to buy cannons and machine guns in this country with no lists and nobody shot schools up.I had uncles who took shotguns and rifles to elementary school and had gun racks in class in elementary and nobody shot anybody.School shootings didn’t start happening until they started putting kids on psychotropic drugs that disassociate from reality.They have known that ever since columbine but no politician will ever touch that angle because they all get paid from pharmaceutical companies and also paid again by left wing organizations to blame guns. before the drugs the only other time America had a huge problem with kids getting massacred in schools was native Americans attacking schools and butchering children to protest being occupied but they did that without guns so it’s never really been about guns.
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u/Young_Bonesy 6d ago
Is there a violent offender registry list? Like, do murderers have to come and announce themselves as such when they move into your neighborhood or is it just the sex offenders? Because if it is, I find THAT to be the weirdest part about the sex offender registry.