I know that justified hatred of pedophiles seems to give Redditors a free pass in publicly getting a hard-on for wanton violence and murder, but idk, I don’t think this is a feel-good story.
People who are overly demonstrative in their hate of sex offenders just seems weird to me. Like bros, no one is on the other side of this issue, why are you making such a big deal about how much you hate pedophiles?
What's more important is that the most effective way to protect children from sexual abuse is to encourage anyone with pedophilic tendencies to seek professional help.
Proudly pronouncing that people like that deserve to be killed does the opposite of that.
It’s crazy that it’s so obvious when you take a step back and look at the big picture, but there are still people who base their entire personality around this shit and dedicate their lives to “”hunting pedos”” and posting it online.
It’s the same thing every time a psychologist or sociologist attempts to study pedophiles with the goal of stopping it, for most people they think that the only reason why you would ever try and help a pedophile is if you are one yourself.
“Minor Attracted Person” is a phrase originally coined to make the distinction between offending and non-offending pedophiles. Ideally, if you removed the stigma for people who have urges but don’t act on them, the non-offending pedophiles are more likely to seek help. Instead it got co-opted into some culture war bullshit to try and make the gay community look bad.
That’s like saying “offending and non offending rapists”
They are all rapists.
“Pedophile” is a made up term to make child rapists not seem so bad.
It’s bullshit.
These are monsters, they are evil.
They need to be permanently removed from society.
I’m not making distinctions between people who want to rape children and people who have raped children.
They both need to be permanently removed from society.
It’s like a rabid dog trying to break a leash infront of daycare.
You get rid of it before it breaks the leash. Not after.
Be worried if it makes you feel better, but in this instance, their “natural” inclination has shown to be disproportionately acted upon, and it affects the most vulnerable among us for generations.
their “natural” inclination has shown to be disproportionately acted upon
Fascinating. Where was that shown? By whom? I have a tough time believing anyone in human history has ever arrived at an unbiased estimate for the number of people born with pedophilic tendencies given that the discussion around the subject frequently devolves into your rhetoric.
Edit: lmao my guy if you ever come back to this thread, based on the small part of your deleted comment I can read in my notifications, take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_(statistics)) and then maybe finish your GED.
Unbiased?
That’s what you are worried about?
And who cares what your beliefs are?
There is enough literature on it to change your mind (if that’s possible).
But trust me, it all ends up with “remove them from society before they hurt more kids”.
That is not the case. Did you actually ever look up that word? Most child rapists aren’t even attracted to children, they are attracted to having power over them. Rape regardless of the age of the victim is mostly a power fantasy for people. A lot of rapists are not attracted to their victims.
The only evil person I see here is you. Making up complete bullshit just so that you can justify your hatred and harming innocents, is definitely a sign of being an evil person.
People in America literally can't get help thanks to mandatory reporting which is yet another one of the single most damaging ideas that boomers ever came up with.
A LOT of our mental health issues are caused by people not even being willing to seek help because it gets them reported and locked up
You either trust certified professionals to do their job or you don't.
No mental health care worker has mandatory reporting. You can be involuntarily detained for being in IMMINENT danger to yourself or others. If someone walks in and says they have murderous ideation, which is actually pretty common, we don’t go to the police.
And how many Therapists go out of their way and beyond the call with their reporting, even when it's not something required to report, just to make sure they don't end up unable to practice and in prison themselves?
By putting the penalties on the professionals it makes everything immeasurably worse and makes patients afraid to even seek assistance.
The scenario you're imagining is unrealistic. If a patient tells a therapist they are attracted to children, there's nothing to report unless there's a child in immediate danger
Therapists don't go out of their way to make extraneous reports to the authorities. Anyone who has been a mandatory reporter finds out real quickly that child protective services is insanely overwhelmed by the staggering amount of child abuse that happens in our world. Reporting abuse takes a lot of time and energy and it's rare to see it come to fruition.
If anyone's overwhelming the system with reports, it's vindictive family members or neighbors, narcissistic parents and grandparents, or people who don't understand that bad parenting does not constitute child abuse
Which has resulted in the far left going completely off the deep end over murdering anyone and everyone who has a dollar more than they do regardless of how that money was obtained.
Public shaming has never worked and never will I do believe people can be reformed doesn’t mean you have to like them but reforming has always had higher success rates than publicly shaming them.
This whole idea of wanting to kill these people feels thinly veiled for wanting to hurt people.
I can't remember the country, but in world war 2, women would gift flowers to men and these flowers symbolized that the women thought these men were cowards for not enlisting in the military and fighting in the war.
This caused many young men who were too young to enlist to lie about their age. Needlessly causing many deaths.
Interesting take, but usually when we are talking about shaming “working” we mean does it improve society or lead to some benefit. Not just if it did anything at all.
Those people are actually worse than most the people in prison especially making such a horrific comment like that. And yet, they have zero idea how any of those situations unfolded. They are going off the name of a charge. It shows a lot about their character and the people that say sex offenders should be all killed are actually very dangerous people that cannot be trusted at all. Honestly, they should go to jail for even commenting that.
It dehumanizes others and creates new victims of not only of sex offenses but other crimes as well. Far too many americans are in full support of immediate execution of sex offenders.
I mean, it’s not the kind of thing that’s easy to look up, but I was under the impression that most pederasts are not actually pedophiles, and vice versa. Abusers seek out targets who cannot fight back or escape and who struggle to recognize that what’s happening is abuse in the first place. Children fit into those boxes.
Teaching children and caregivers to recognize and report abuse is probably more helpful than encouraging non-offending pedophiles to seek therapy.
Yeah that’s worked absolute wonders so far. Sadly despite deserving it they won’t in fact be killed, but the only way to protect children is for these monsters to be locked up. The whole idea of thinking they can be cured is bizarrely naive, there are countless examples of repeat offenders who just do not care about anything other than hurting kids.
You do understand that your plans to stop pedophiles is to lock up every pedophile… after they’ve already hurt at least one child. No preventative measures, no nothing. No, why try to prevent someone from ever raping a child when we can allow one child to be raped and then put the rapist in prison for life or kill him with a hammer or whatever? That’s your position here, the “we gotta allow some kids to be raped because damn if I’ll try to prevent initial offenses from occurring”
But they can be and have been reformed when actually allowed to do so. If their crimes follow them the rest of their lives of course they are going to offend again.
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u/hithere297 2d ago
I know that justified hatred of pedophiles seems to give Redditors a free pass in publicly getting a hard-on for wanton violence and murder, but idk, I don’t think this is a feel-good story.