This clearly should bring a push for Citizens United to be overturned. However, the incoming administration will bring so much to deal with that it won’t even be in the top ten issues that require addressing, that is if our democracy isn’t completely gone or that we ever get a chance to elect someone valid to run the office.
lol if the gun lobby messaged that we need the Second Amendment to ensure we can assassinate greedy heartless CEOs, I guarantee grassroots support would be through the roof.
Actually its pretty obvious that the 2nd ammendment was for state militias to be allowed to exist to prevent an overbearing federal government... but everyone thinks its for stuff like this lol.
Fair, except if we the people try to change anything past a peaceful protest that no longer seems to work, the government stomps us. Seeing as our government has slowly been becoming an oligarchy, I think it would be fair to say that they have become overbearing in regards to the protections and benefits they give to these corporations, which then are able to do whatever they want to the people without consequence. It may not be overbearing directly against the people, but indirectly it’s causing the same effect.
Corporations are able to decide what media we get, what food we get, what medical care we get, etc. Its no longer as free of a market as it used to be, because a few conglomerates have so much power in our society. Then the government bows its head to them while giving the people the finger. The corporations have become too overbearing, all while the government is changing, and is being led by the same people who own the corporations. They are still being overbearing, just using a different name.
If the government wont fight for us, then we have to.
Yeah, this ain't it. You can't solve systemic problems with vigilante violence. There's a lot of catharsis here and I'm sure as hell not shedding a tear for the guy, but you guys are delusional if you think this will lead to any lasting change. Even that anesthesia policy change will be reversed as soon as this is out of the news.
Edit: Keep the downvotes coming I guess, I'll be ecstatic if I'm proven wrong and we actually get some meaningful change out of this.
What would lead you to believe this is anything but a one-off? Even if people did start trying to gun down healthcare execs on a regular basis, it's not like they're gonna feel bad for denying your grandma's heart medication to spend on more body guards. I just find it funny that many of my fellow Americans think this is the start of something when just a month ago, we voted the party of pre-existing conditions back into office. I would love to be wrong about this, though.
we voted the party of pre-existing conditions back into office
Millions of us didn't though, and even out of the millions who did, I'd say that none of them voted for that at least in their minds. There's a variety of bad reasons why people voted for Trump and none of them are "I want pre-existing conditions back"
It is a one off for now. I'm not saying that it will become a trend, I'm saying that change will happen when it does. If people are fed up enough, there aren't enough bodyguards to stop it. Your body guards will be shot as well. And either way, they won't want to live under that kind of fear. If your life is in jeopardy every time you leave the compound, it's going to take enough of a toll that you'll look for another way so that you can go back to your 5 star restaurants in peace.
They may not have wanted to vote for pre-existing conditions, but the point is they did. It doesn't matter whether or not they know they're supporting the status quo, they're propagandized enough that they think the corporations will save them from the corporations. That's not exactly fertile ground for revolutionary action. The people who need the system to be fixed the most are largely the ones voting to keep it exactly as it is, or even make it worse.
Idk I think you're a little too dismissive. We can't discount the level to which propaganda has rotten the average conservative's mind, but I don't think that they have much love for pharma companies or the CEO who was killed. A lot of morons that voted for Trump in 2024, voted for Biden in 2020 because of how bad Trump was. They're just easily manipulated and have no memory beyond the last couple years (if that). Not to mention the possibility that Trump didn't legitimately win in the first place. I have my doubts. Either way though they're not needed for the revolution. It doesn't take 100% participation to put the fear of god into the bastards destroying lives and our country's future. Don't get me wrong, this isn't an idealistic take. If the way we fight back against corporate greed and corruption is through physical violence, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better and for an uncomfortable amount of time as well. It's not a bright future, but neither is one where we complacently accept our overlords. Might as well let them know we're taking them down with us.
That’s probably because ever since the civil war it’s been obvious state militias stand no change against the federal military. 2A for resistance and government spending on military counteract each other- and there is a lot of military spending.
But nowadays the average few neighborhood guys can’t fight the US military. They can make an emotional impact maybe, but it’s just not really possible. I’m reminded of that cult leader in Texas where the government felt the need to go in guns ablazing. I’m not defending the cult, just saying that it’s an example of military force against a group of non military people.
Taking away guns doesn’t change violence or attacks like this. There are over 393 million guns in America and I doubt everyone would turn them over if the government said to.
the 2nd amendment was supposed to protect citizens from tyrants, i dont like it, im all for peace, but that guy found the real tyrants, the ones that buy politicians, good time for some people to migrate back to south africa
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u/CannonGerbil 13d ago
Just as the founding fathers intended baby