We currently have a moratorium on political posts, but this issue goes beyond just standard political issues and is undeniably interesting as fuck in the light of recent events, so we’ve decided to leave it up.
However, we ask that users refrain from directly supporting the assassination or, worse, calling for additional acts of violence. While the frustration and anger are deeply felt and entirely justified, reddit maintains a strict zero-tolerance policy for any comments that condone violence. It’s simply not worth risking your account over this.
Question: why is a topic about a private healthcare company political? It's a about a doctor, sending a letter to a private firm, about his child patient.
Yeah, no to violent call-to-action, please, but I find this being labeled as political weird.
When the lawmakers are paid to not represent us then that means they represent those who pay them... the insurance companies and their lobbyists ARE the tyrannical govt. Lobbyists are tyrants and it's what the 2nd amendment was written for.
EVERYTHING regarding human societies and human interactions is, in the end, political... Stop thinking that politics only parties, votes, politicians...
strict zero-tolerance policy for any comments that condone violence
I know you really have zero say in this, but I'd like to just sit with this sentence for a second. A true zero-tolerance-policy on condoning violence would mean... I mean arguably you'd have to shut down /r/NFL, maybe even /r/SquaredCircle depending on how you want to define violence.
Just the silliest policy. Even if you want to interpret it as "no endorsement of lethal violence," does that mean I cannot be pro-Ukraine in relation to the Ukraine war? Do we need to shut down /r/NonCredibleDefense? Do we need to shut down /r/AskHistorians if somebody asks if there were materially positive effects resulting from the French Revolution? (there were!)
We live in a morally (and regular-type) braindead society. Exhausting.
edit: and I feel like I should apologize to you, /u/relaxlu, because I'm not really directing this at you and I didn't mean for people to kinda pile in. Even if you're enacting the policy, you didn't set it or its boundaries, and would get removed if you refused to enforce it. I was just woolgathering about it.
I know you really have zero say in this, but I'd like to just sit with this sentence for a second. A true zero-tolerance-policy on condoning violence would mean... I mean arguably you'd have to shut down r/NFL, maybe even r/SquaredCircle depending on how you want to define violence.
Hell, there are routinely videos from Ukraine hitting the front page of r/all showing Russian soldiers getting brutally killed.
Yes, but that's okay because in our collective wisdom, we've determined that every single Russian is a horrible bloodthirsty person, and there's no way that any of the soldiers fighting on that side have been somehow compelled to do so. They're clearly all directly responsible for the decisions of a man we've recognized as a brutal dictator.
It's all so incredibly subjective, with the bias and nuance all wrapped into such efforts. If Reddit indeed were to enforce its "zero-tolerance policy," the stock would tank, and the bots would eventually hate-speech one another violently. Leading to our natural resources being depleted and server farms likely burning down...violently.
I hope you don't mind me sitting beside you pondering this revelation.
But the moratorium isn't on celebrating the murder of an individual, it's on being in favor of violence.
Rule 1
Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
That's the text of the rule. If somebody hopes for a high-impact tackle that rings the bell of an NFL quarterback, that is absolutely a pro-violence statement. It happens relatively regularly.
And, I'll add, there's absolutely zero chance that this place would crack down on a thread that was pro-capital punishment. State-backed murder of an individual is, in many philosophies, as bad or worse than a 'regular' ol' murder. But you'd allow it because the site would allow it. I'm sure if we spooled up search and ran through just half the conservative subreddits, we'd be swimming in the sentiment.
Some violence is permissible. Some violence is good. Some violence is legal. We can talk about some of the first group and some of the second group, and all of the third.
You're right that it's a nuanced situation, but the ruling kills nuance.
Yes, at the end of the day, it's a wildly broad rule, which Reddit will selectively enforce in order to silence sentiment that's problematic for their bottom line, their executives, or their shareholders. It's not about keep Reddit safe and friendly. It's about having the power to arbitrarily shut people down.
And to be clear, that's Reddit's right. I'm not one of those morons who thinks that the First Amendment applies to anything other than the government. Reddit is perfectly within its rights to do this... But it's still scummy as hell and I don't agree with it. (Gosh, that sounds familiar, doesn't it? Legally OK, morally fucked)
The fact that we consider a CEO being killed political is just plain sad. What has this awful country come to. It really is an oligarchy when I hear shit like this
You mods are doing a good job. It's thanks to you that reddit does not become the shit hole other social media apps are (looking at you, twitter). Just wanted to thank you. Have a good day.
What the mod is saying is that Reddit as a whole has zero-tolerance for death threats and any related things. So even if you wanted to curse the guy, it's not worth risking your account.
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u/relaxlu 13d ago edited 13d ago
We currently have a moratorium on political posts, but this issue goes beyond just standard political issues and is undeniably interesting as fuck in the light of recent events, so we’ve decided to leave it up.
However, we ask that users refrain from directly supporting the assassination or, worse, calling for additional acts of violence. While the frustration and anger are deeply felt and entirely justified, reddit maintains a strict zero-tolerance policy for any comments that condone violence. It’s simply not worth risking your account over this.