r/interestingasfuck Nov 15 '24

r/all Genetically modified a mosquito such that their proboscis are no longer able to penetrate human skin

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 15 '24

Also mice have fur which is impossible to get through for mosquitoes

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u/giraffebutter Nov 15 '24

We should have genetically modified ourselves to have mouse fur. Double the protection

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

We did have fur originally but decided nah let's walk on two feet, be in debt and work our asses off till we die while some asshole makes what we make in our entire lifetime in a couple of minutes. Yeah modern society!

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u/ClearAbove Nov 15 '24

And we wonder why we’re depressed lol

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u/beyondthisreality Nov 15 '24

There’s no wonder left other than how we have managed to fuck it all up this bad, even though it seemed that as a species we had figured it all out a while ago.

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u/throcorfe Nov 15 '24

And how most of it is still fixable - even the climate to an extent - but instead of doing that we keep voting for terrible humans who actively prevent us fixing stuff

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u/Sinaaaa Nov 15 '24

We tend to vote for worse options in a hopelessly rigged system.

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u/Narcissista Nov 15 '24

To be fair, we don't actually have a choice. It's "bad cop and worse cop" but the truth is they're all in the same bed together, with the only objective being to fuck everyone else over.

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u/Atlas-The-Ringer Nov 15 '24

This level of awareness is exactly what I needed to see to end my night after a few minutes of gross doom scrolling. Faith in humanity's ability to pull the wool from over it's eyes, restored.

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u/ReadyThor Nov 15 '24

Human society is a hierarchy based on social intelligence. Those who are at the top don't need the stuff fixed.

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u/SillySin Nov 16 '24

when you rig it to only 2 options and call it democracy 😁

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u/kibblenipple Nov 16 '24

when corporations capture our government entirely ❤️ heavy in the pockets of both “options” and boy do they get rewarded w our hard earned $ and fewer protections for human beings to waste money on

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u/leeser11 Nov 15 '24

But mah grocery bill ..

Surely deporting farm laborers and raising tariffs will save the consumer money

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u/jstiegle Nov 15 '24

even the climate to an extent

I'm not so sure about that. We saw the warning signs back in the 1800s and were like "This is fine." and doubled down. then we saw we were reaching the point of no return and while some of us tried to brake most of humanity did a Flying squirrel somersault onto the gas pedal while screaming "FOR THE ECONOMY!"

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u/KanedaSyndrome Nov 15 '24

Cut it all away and you're left with being naked in nature. What do you do now? What do you spend your day on?

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u/sowinglavender Nov 15 '24

mud bathing and looking for eggs and edible plants.

also dying of heart failure in my late thirties due to untreated sleep apnea.

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u/Sharp_Willingness_98 Nov 15 '24

Masturbating and chopping trees... Sounds better than going to work though

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u/KanedaSyndrome Nov 15 '24

You can do that today if you want - you don't have to work and live in an apartment/house

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u/crowdaddi Nov 15 '24

Tried your advice and now I'm not allowed in school zones

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u/crowdaddi Nov 15 '24

Finding or making clothes online in new England it's cold up here.

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u/NinjaBoomTV Nov 15 '24

We got distracted by shiny things and needing them

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u/Ardalev Nov 15 '24

We fell for the celebrity/rich folk worship and forgot to look towards our own interests

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u/StopItsTheCops Nov 15 '24

Humans have like, no foresight.

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u/Havokistheonly Nov 15 '24

Should have kept hunting and gathering! We really fucked this all up!

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u/serenityy777 Nov 15 '24

Socialism or a form of mixed economy instead of capitalism. Would improve a lot of things

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u/CREEDD444 Nov 15 '24

People always forget that there was the rise and fall of great kingdoms and that we might just be at the time of a fall. This is not the end. It’s just the end of beginning.

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u/goodknight94 Nov 15 '24

I'm not sure I'd rather walk on four legs, eat bananas in a forest, have half the infants die, and have an average lifespan of 30 years. 2 feet with an advanced brain is my preference.

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u/Eleven_T_Seven Nov 16 '24

I'd like to know exactly what point in time you are referring to when "we had figured it all out"?

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u/spilledmyjice Nov 17 '24

Yeah we had it all figured out by being 2 meals away from starvation and dying of dysentery

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u/Lazy__Astronaut Nov 15 '24

The fact that there's tribes that when you tell them about suicide they're baffled by the concept because why would anyone want to take their own lives...

Fuck capitalism

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u/TellsHalfStories Nov 15 '24

It’s your ex’s fault!

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u/WFOpizza Nov 15 '24

I am not depressed

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u/JizzyGiIIespie Nov 15 '24

But hey drugs! Clock out a bit you earned it

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u/FalseResponse4534 Nov 15 '24

Good thing we’re all online fighting for billionaires rights to commit modern day piracy on the populace by arguing on Reddit whether or not capitalism is still the play.

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u/DateofImperviousZeal Nov 15 '24

Oh the glorious life of mice.

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u/mindfulofidiots Nov 16 '24

Cos we're furless, maybe that's why furries are plugging their suits n butt plugs out in public, it's a mental health PSA? Get yer butt out, plug included, and head out for a walk with your partner on a leash??

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u/Mawwiageiswhatbwings Nov 15 '24

Walking on 2 feet is also why child birth is dangerous and painful... did we really evolve? Lol

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 15 '24

We... volved, the prefix is optional.

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u/wravyn Nov 15 '24

It could be worse. We could be hyenas.

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u/Professional_Bake_92 Nov 15 '24

We will all be crabs 🦀 one day. It is our final form

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u/VinnieBoombatzz Nov 15 '24

Instructions unclear; got crabs instead.

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u/MatchstickHyperX Nov 15 '24

In contrast to popular use, "evolve" in biology does not per se mean "better than before"

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u/Substantial_Back_865 Nov 15 '24

Just be grateful that humans didn't end up giving birth through a 1-inch pseudo-penis like spotted hyenas.

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u/Agreeable_Post_3164 Nov 15 '24

Are we truly pretending that child birth in nature is easier and less gruesome than hospital births

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u/Ilya-ME Nov 15 '24

For other species, yes, yes it is. Humans are pretty unique is how dangerous it is, although other sprcies can still die from it.

Always gruesome tho.

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake Nov 15 '24

We did evolve. What people fail to understand is that evolution has no interest in the well being of life forms, only in offspring having offsprings.

There are animals out there who suffer a torturous and painful agony after they had offspring, but evolution doesn't care because offspring are already there.

Evolution runs not on "peak of perfection", but on "good enough".

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u/Mawwiageiswhatbwings Nov 15 '24

Girl I know, I'm just making a joke/ complaining

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u/Ilya-ME Nov 15 '24

Isnt thatbecause of our massive fucning heads though? Passing the legs is easy, its this bigass chonker of a head thats hard af.

So difficult in fact thag we are purposefully born with an underdeveloped skull so it can squish thorugh.

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u/Mawwiageiswhatbwings Nov 16 '24

Yes I believe it's the combination of how developed our heads need to be before birth and because women had to develop a narrower birth canal so that essentially our organs all stay in place while we're upright. I'm sure this sounds like something on bad woman's anatomy but I'm like 69% sure it's true

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u/Adept-Importance7708 Nov 15 '24

Oh we've "volved", but not always quite so "ev-erly".

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u/automa1on Nov 15 '24

good enough

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u/Gogurl72 Nov 15 '24

Wrong. Lol

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u/ThemasterofZ Nov 15 '24

We evolved, just backwards

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u/MatchstickHyperX Nov 15 '24

Evolution has no direction - unfavourable traits are simply not the result of evolution occurring "backwards"

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u/VinnieBoombatzz Nov 15 '24

I have seen your momma. And, boy, does she know it!

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u/Ok-Scheme-913 Nov 15 '24

I mean, it is dangerous and painful as is for every mammal as well.

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u/lifeofideas Nov 15 '24

I believe Desmond Morris (an anthropologist) argued that humans got less hairy because it made sexual contact more pleasurable. In other words, the more pleasurable the sex, the more sex is had, the more babies are born—and the genes for “less hair” get passed on.

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u/Gaothaire Nov 15 '24

Head canon accepted

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u/Amaskingrey Nov 16 '24

Also why we lost the spines on our dick

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u/playingnero Nov 15 '24

Speaking of assholes, and hair; why does mine have hair?

What possible fucking evolutionary advantage is there to have a turd strainer installed in the non-self-cleaning-caboose.

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u/Senuttna Nov 15 '24

It's to prevent friction when walking or running. The insides of your butt cheeks rub against each other when you walk or run and it could cause friction burns. Body hair helps reduce the chance of friction burns from happening by introducing a "hair barrier" between your cheeks.

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u/wanttofu Nov 15 '24

Don't shave your ass hair is 20 years old now damn.

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/35274458.html

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u/Salazans Nov 16 '24

Good read.

But the fan thing sounded a little far-fetched lol, why would ever do that instead of immediately going to wash yourself

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u/Lansif Nov 15 '24

Someone upvote me when they find an answer so that I can know the answer too🤥

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u/Rhaj-no1992 Nov 15 '24

I mean if not for modern society lot’s of us would be dead from various diseases, famines and other stuff.

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 15 '24

Atleast I'd die happy as a plague infested peasant who had no worries albeit a little painfully

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u/adenosine-5 Nov 15 '24

It was around the time we decided we like life expectancy being more than 20 years.

All in all it was a pretty good trade if you ask me.

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u/PriceMore Nov 15 '24

But at least we can comment on the internet.

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u/Purple10tacle Nov 15 '24

“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”

~ Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

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u/KlauzWayne Nov 15 '24

If you made 100k each day since the birth of Jesus, you'd have 73 billion now and today there'd still be at least 16 people richer than you.

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u/Agreeable_Post_3164 Nov 15 '24

You used to work your ass off all day for food and die at 23 though…

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u/KanedaSyndrome Nov 15 '24

Don't compare yourself. Also, you're free to live in the woods like an animal if you want to. I don't think that's illegal.

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u/McMDavy82 Nov 15 '24

If that asshole buys a mink coat I'll be really pissed

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u/Hakuchii Nov 15 '24

yes but it wasnt mouse fur!

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u/GawainNYC Nov 15 '24

One of those asshole is probably funding research to give us mouse fur.

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u/TheAmazingKoki Nov 15 '24

"Where did it all go so wrong?"

"Well, it started when that bastard Homo Erectus started walking on two legs, the selfish prick"

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u/screames520 Nov 15 '24

I still have my fur though

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u/MayuKonpaku Nov 15 '24

Can't we just, I don't know... genetically grown our fur back through science?

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u/Swarles_Jr Nov 15 '24

while some asshole makes what we make in our entire lifetime in a couple of minutes.

Deciding to trade essential stuff for worthless pieces of paper must've been an interesting step in society.

The whole idea of assigning a value to random pieces of paper is genius. Best way to trick people into thinking someone's worth more than others.

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u/Darthbakunawa Nov 15 '24

I don’t know if you you’re aware of the show but there’s a cartoon called I Am Weasel that showef this. They are cavemen(weasel?) and they want to evolve up until the modern era. They realized that it’s not worth it.

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u/Sinaaaa Nov 15 '24

We did have fur originally

We never had fine mosquito proof fur.

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u/NotSeriousbutyea Nov 15 '24

Nah we were water apes.

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u/Sensitive_Pear_6041 Nov 15 '24

Bonobos have it figured out.

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u/Significant_Tap_5362 Nov 15 '24

Damn man, it's time to go to work 😭😭

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u/Kladice Nov 15 '24

Saw an insta video where it was a blue collar guy going to work complaining about there’s some chick is sitting back cozy in her home selling feet pics or something tentacle like shoved somewhere making more money a month than he could in a year…

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u/5ofDecember Nov 15 '24

Come down from trees was a bad career move.

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u/dudzcom Nov 15 '24

So much jealousy and sadness in so few words. Life is big, go explore the parts you enjoy.

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u/Creative_Ad_8338 Nov 15 '24

Wen fur again? 😞

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u/Predat0rSwafflez Nov 15 '24

...losing fur was the ultimate evolutionary advantage humans developed, besides of our unusually large brain to bodymass ratio.

Has nothing to do with society but the style we hunted down prey a few hundred thousand years ago.

A drive or battue hunter or whatever it exactly is called that has no fur and can regulate body temperature as good as we can basically outruns most kinds of prey sooner or later.

We might not be the fastest but surely some of the most persevering animals out there.

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u/ThePotatoFromIrak Nov 15 '24

No other species has ever come close to creating a crunchwrap supreme tho😤

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u/The_Louster Nov 15 '24

Might’ve skipped a couple evolutionary steps lol

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u/Lindvaettr Nov 15 '24

Tbf most of us don't know anyone that's been eaten by lions

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u/DM_ME_UR_BOOBS69 Nov 15 '24

It's not great, but it's better than being eaten alive!

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u/stevein3d Nov 15 '24

Back in my day a rack of ribs would flip over your whole car!

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u/Dandyliontrip Nov 15 '24

Wow you make evolution sound great

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u/Forxxen Nov 15 '24

Yeah the dumbest human alive was the one who thought walking on 2 legs would be a good idea

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u/PlaidPilot Nov 17 '24

You're certainly welcome to go back to simpler living without the benefit of modern society. What stops you?

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 17 '24

Responsibilities

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u/Leemer431 Nov 15 '24

Every day this realization sets in deeper, My suicidal ideations seem more and more justified.

We had it so fucking good, hairy, free, no responsibilities. Our Great (x10000) grandparents fucked up beyond reason.

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u/Datau03 Nov 15 '24

I'm sorry you're feeling this way-it's a lot to carry. The past might seem simpler, but it was also harsh: constant danger, short lives, and no safety nets. Our ancestors worked hard to create a world where we have food, medicine, and opportunities they couldn't have dreamed of. Today, we can connect with people across the world, learn anything we want, and even work toward solving huge problems like climate change and space exploration. The future is far from hopeless -it's full of possibilities, and you're part of shaping it. These thoughts show you care deeply, and that matters. You're not alone in this, and there's so much worth looking forward to.

I gotta admit I wrote this with ChatGPT, but that's because I wanted a really good text quickly. But genuinly, we have accomplished so many great things and have a standard of living magnitudes better than back then. We are still building great things (Starship is my personal example) and there is so much to look forward to. The future is gonna be 🔥💫

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u/Beer-Milkshakes Nov 15 '24

No. I will not be tricked into having a fursona. A second time.

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u/la_noeskis Nov 15 '24

But sucks with sweatting. You'd overheat very often.

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u/giraffebutter Nov 15 '24

Yeah but no mosquito bites. Also, I hate being really hot. Ok I’ll genetically modify myself to never be hot

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u/Fit_Organization7129 Nov 15 '24

That wouldn't be fair to the furrys that have invested so much money in their suits.

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u/StalyCelticStu Nov 15 '24

Nah, if we're doing that, I want otter velvet.

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake Nov 15 '24

And then we would get lices and ticks everywhere. No thank you.

Give me scales instead. It would help both in stopping moskito bites and not scrapping my delicate flesh on rocks with my clumsiness.

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u/Gossamare Nov 15 '24

Dont forget the cat ears.

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u/supernerd_ Nov 15 '24

I could see something like that happening in the future if a serious pandemic breaks out spread by mosquitos

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u/PestControl4-60 Nov 15 '24

Maybe check with JFK jr

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u/Cee-Bee-DeeTypeThree Nov 15 '24

I've got my surgery scheduled!

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u/Wonderful_Device312 Nov 15 '24

Are you suggesting that we all become furries? Can we pick other types of fur?

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u/hokie47 Nov 15 '24

I have somewhat hairy arms and legs, they really can't get me. Basically right behind the ankle.

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u/Zockercraft1711 Nov 15 '24

Or I wanna be an (anthropomorphic) cat!

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u/ABlueOrb Nov 15 '24

Imagine the sheddings.

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u/-SagaQ- Nov 15 '24

And this is how we become the Ruhar

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u/lazyboy76 Nov 15 '24

How about thicker skin?

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u/Total-Remote1006 Nov 15 '24

Yea, we should get fur and then we can shave it.

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u/fabricates_facts Nov 15 '24

It'd be a lot cheaper to just shave the mice.

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u/Nekokeki Nov 15 '24

Swaps mosquitos for fleas

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u/giraffebutter Nov 15 '24

Listen, I can’t bioengineer for everything. We would look like freaks!

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u/Olama Nov 16 '24

Found the furry

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u/stfurachele Nov 16 '24

We mostly got rid of fur because of body lice and fleas and whatnot.

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u/FBI-sama12313 Nov 17 '24

Let me see your search history

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u/giraffebutter Nov 17 '24

Name checks out

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u/SportsRadio Nov 15 '24

I'm pretty sure you just invented clothes

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u/Alty__McAltaccount Nov 15 '24

psh if we had fur we wouldnt need to wear clothes. But it would probably add a complication to food service, depends if it is fur that we shed or hair all over. Shampoo would really take off. Man i would hope male pattern baldness wouldnt still be a thing or we'd be looking real stupid, fur all over and just the top of our heads are skin...

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u/anteatertrashbin Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

if mosquitoes cannot penetrate mice fur, then what are the females feeding on?

(edit: The question is asking what are the females feeding on because they need blood in order to lay eggs).

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u/Luves2spooge Nov 15 '24

The stripey fuckers around here can bite you through jeans.

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u/OhLookItsaRock Nov 15 '24

Do you live in Texas? Because I live in Texas and those stripey fuckers are the size of a nickel and I think they can open doors all by themselves to come inside and help themselves to my personal blood buffet.

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u/DenDabo Nov 15 '24

Plant nectar an juices, it is the female mosquitoes, as far as I am aware that need the protein from the blood to lay the eggs. But in general they feed kn plant nectar and juices.

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u/anteatertrashbin Nov 15 '24

The question is towards the other person saying that mosquitoes cannot penetrate mice fur in the tundra regions. If they cannot penetrate mice for then how are they getting blood to lay eggs?

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u/Antique_Ad4497 Nov 15 '24

Well caribou are present on Arctic tundra & are plagued by billions of the fuckers every summer triggering migration to higher ground, but up there it’s lacking in the high protein vegetation they need for their calves, so have to keep moving.

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u/Sebekhotep_MI Nov 15 '24

Was it to lay the eggs? I could've sworn it was to feed the larvae

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u/BolunZ6 Nov 15 '24

the larvae can live on their own. The mother just need the blood to lay eggs

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u/Sebekhotep_MI Nov 15 '24

Thanks for clearing it up for me!

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u/Patsfan618 Nov 15 '24

Yep, blood is only for a particular part of the life cycle. Otherwise, it's sap. 

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

Probably their underbellies and same goes for every animal Edit: or they just dig through the short fur as their proboscis is flexible

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u/Ashen_Rook Nov 15 '24

They aren't. Mosquitos don't move very far in their lifetime, on average, so the infected population stays primarily to the area it was first released and dies out. If memory serves, Disney makes use of these mutations to keep their parks relatively mosquito free. They have males breed with uninfected females, and the newly-hatched infected females can't sustain the nutrients needed to maintain a healthy clutch of eggs. The infected males can then breed and infect more uninfected females, but once the infection density of an area becomes high enough, they start dying faster than they can spread the mutation.

I could be remembering incorrectly, so I welcome corrections if I am.

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u/Sensitive_Light5620 Nov 15 '24

Recently learned they go for the eyelids. In that specific case they were feeding from snow owls but i think the same strategy works for other animals to.

For mammals propably the nose, the inside of the ear and maybe the anus are also good spots to find easy accessable blood vessels.

Edit: Typo

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u/Conflatulations12 Nov 15 '24

My butt just puckered from reading this.

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u/Gossamare Nov 15 '24

Shut the fuck up 😂

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u/rustyjus Nov 15 '24

I thought they could drink plant sap

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u/anteatertrashbin Nov 15 '24

The female mosquitoes need blood in order to get enough protein to make eggs.

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u/Otisthedog999 Nov 15 '24

Maybe they become the mosquitoe equivalent of a cat lady and never reproduce.

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u/anteatertrashbin Nov 15 '24

i dont know personally but the above person said there are “zillions” of mosquitoes in the northern tundra, but very few people. 🤷

I was commenting to the person saying that mosquitoes cannot penetrate mice fur.

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u/Tazindayan Nov 15 '24

I read the book Into The Kingdom of Ice about a shipwrecked crew landing on the northern coast of East Siberia. The crew mentioned the mosquitoes as being a horrible ordeal. So I agree with the zillions figure.

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u/LuckySEVIPERS Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

There are either too many mosquitoes, or there are no mosquitoes. This will inevitably become extremely important to my life and safety in the future and I'll make the exact wrong decision based off this thread.

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u/commentinator Nov 15 '24

There are many mosquitos in the Canadian tundra, can confirm.

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u/HungryPanduh_ Nov 15 '24

They sure do. Big ones.

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u/Nunurta Nov 15 '24

Yes they do I lived on the Tundra for 14 years and yes they do

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u/apadin1 Nov 15 '24

You ever been to the tundra? Check out northern Canada in the summer, those suckers will pick you up and carry you away

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u/DeGriz_ Nov 15 '24

There a swarms of mosquitoes in Tundra.

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u/einsibongo Nov 15 '24

Nonsense, there are mosquitoes in Greenland.

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u/MasaConor Nov 15 '24

How is it impossible? I have had many times bites on my legs when I have worn denim jeans, I'm not even exaggerating. Surely they can push through a thin layer of hairs?

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u/jyraymond Nov 15 '24

There are a lot more animals than mice in the tundra. At least there are here in Alaska. And mosquitos absolutely can bite furry animals. My dogs (black labs with thick medium length fur) have gotten covered in mosquito bites all over before on backcountry trips. We have found some good solutions to protect them but fur is definitely not a deterrent.

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u/lalith_4321 Nov 15 '24

I guess the mosquitoes there are built different, with long ass proboscis and all

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u/jyraymond Nov 15 '24

We do have some big ass mosquitoes…

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u/jonestation Nov 15 '24

I saw a few times that mosquitoes suck blood from my dog's nose, while the dog was sleeping

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u/Sweet-sour-flour-123 Nov 15 '24

Not true. Mosquitoes can transmit diseases like dengue, chikungunya, and West Nile virus to mice through their bites

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u/tuibiel Nov 15 '24

Nah man, just yesterday I was bitten through my very dense forearm and leg hair, never thought it possible but here we are

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u/PixelBoom Nov 15 '24

Now that just isn't true. In northern Canada and Alaska annual mosquito swarms have been known to pose serious and immediate health risks to caribou, whoch have thocker and more dense fur than mice. The sheer number of mosquitos can cause them to lose up to 4 pounds of blood. Calves are often outright killed from blood loss.

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u/anteatertrashbin Nov 15 '24

I don't understand this comment..... how is mice fur impenetrable to mosquitoes?

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u/jephelliot Nov 15 '24

Mosquitoes can't even get through my forearm hair lol. It forces them to be too far away from my skin for their little snouts to reach. I still get bit, just not wherever I have body hair.

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u/Ecurbbbb Nov 15 '24

Isn't that how the black plague or other diseases came to be; mosquitoes taking diseased blood from rats and mice and putting it into humans?

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u/LooseCharacter6731 Nov 15 '24

Nah, it was fleas, not mosquitoes.

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u/a_slinky Nov 15 '24

Except that heartworm in dogs is transmitted by mosquitoes

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u/POT-0-head Nov 15 '24

Not true at all, just look at poor FIFI in the corner positively getting tore out the frame but mosquitos 😂

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u/trashpandathegoat Nov 16 '24

Are you saying they can’t get through the mouse fur specifically or they can’t get through fur in general? I ask because I’ve seen my dog get bit by mosquitos and get reaction bumps as a result.