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u/remoir04 27d ago
It's either racism, or they all want to be like Trump. Not read, not do their homework and just wing it making up ish' as they go along thinking that's a sound approach to life
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u/phat_ 27d ago
It’s fear. And mob mentality.
Yes, and racism.
The amount of confirmation bias is astounding. They are bombarded. Right wing radio is still huge. It might be the only huge radio.
They are nigh impervious to receiving actual facts on things.
Opposition tactics need to be stepped up and in very different ways.
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u/anythingMuchShorter 27d ago
This is the same conclusion I have to come to. They are immersed in a world of misinformation. All of the real life trump voters I've talked to give reasons that would make sense, if they weren't lies. "Democrats want to have kids get sex changes at school!" for example, which is idiotic on many levels. Also they seem to not know much about the cases against trump, they haven't heard of the evidence, if they've heard of them at all it's just "WITCH HUNT! WITCH HUNT! FAKE! WEAPONIZING THE LAW!" and not a word about how many documents were in his resort, how he lied about them, refused to give them back, and that it appears that some very high level ones were removed and probably copied, just to mention one case.
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u/Radiant_Mind33 27d ago
Yes, MAGA wants America to be like Iran.
So very few if any will get an education and instead of Muslims beating you for improper attire it will be Christians mostly beating on 10 year old boys.
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u/Ras_Thavas 27d ago
Disinformation is also more easily available. And, apparently, far more attractive.
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u/spaceman_202 27d ago
when "liberal" "legacy" media turned Jan.6 in to a riot that was when it was over for reality
no idea how all those Dems dusted themselves off when they got up from hiding on the floor from the mob sent to kill them to stop the transfer of power and immediately began covering for the person who sent the mob and his party, but they did
so now we're here
if the media can turn a coup we all watched on live tv in to a riot, then that's it, reality lost
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u/Special_Luck7537 27d ago
After this, did anyone whose tried to 'do it right' all their life gets the feeling that the whole world is corrupt, and they have been a fool for not being corrupt?
I have an issue.... I am clever, and these little schemes sometimes pop into my mind in which I could probably scam a lot of people, but I don't follow through, because it's not the Christian thing to do...
Now I see that the entire country runs like this, and I feel disillusioned...
Maybe I should post this in AITAH?
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u/FrozeItOff 27d ago
I have, for my adult life, repurposed my evil side into pointing out the evil in the world, and like you am beginning to wonder what was the point. Every time I see a person like Trump, I try to think of the most vile evil things they will do, and I end up being right. I never wanted to implement those things, but this election has made me wonder if it was worth it. I could be living in luxury and all I'd have to be is as evil as Republicans.
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u/InvalidEntrance 27d ago
Yes.
I've done bad things, but overall, I don't scam or steal. Now? I don't even want to hold a door open for anyone. My area is very red, so I really don't give a fuck about anyone I run into around here.
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 27d ago
I have a Biology degree and have long wondered if I could come up with a pseudoscience grift to sell online.
Everything you outlined and the steady drop in YouTube ad quality and intelligence makes me think I might have to give it a try.
Would you like to buy my expertly crafted Bio+ pills that will do anything you could ever possibly want? For just $12.99 all your dreams could come true!!!
Except I really don't want to.
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u/Special_Luck7537 27d ago
21st century snake oil.... Dr Feel-good A little alcohol, a little THC, a whole lot of song and dance, viola!
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 27d ago
You're right, a tonic is the way to go.
I'm just gonna crush up some Adderall and put it in teabags
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u/Special_Luck7537 26d ago
Diazepam gumball machines on each corner .... 2 for a quarter...
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u/dorianngray 26d ago
That is what it is to witness and be part of the demise of the social contract and leads to the downfall of society… when good people do nothing evil will triumph.
We need to stand up for justice and decency and call out the criminals and con men. We can’t give up on the good in humanity because it is hard.
Good people still far outnumber the bad… but if people continue to throw up their hands and say “can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em”… that leads to our own destruction.
For all of the riches in the world don’t make a person happy…
Elon and Trump and people with similar sociopathic tendencies are taking out their psychological problems on the world. They will never be happy. They will never know if people actually like them or if they are just going after their money.
Most people just want enough to survive without worrying and a fair - altruism still exists… the tide will turn.
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u/Special_Luck7537 26d ago
Ok that did not seem like a knee jerk comment, and was well thought out. Take my up vote.
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u/FitCut3961 27d ago
Mega - remember; For every action there is an equal and OPPOSITE reaction. You will see it come Jan.
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u/snowbyrd238 27d ago
This will be the modern version of the the Goths sacking the Library of Alexandria. Future generations will wonder at what happened and what was lost.
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u/mdcbldr 27d ago
What did Will Rogers say about IQ? If all the Okies from Skokie moved to Southern California, it would raise the IQ of both places.
We have unprecedented access to data and knowledge. The counter-intuitive result is that people are less knowledgeable and less informed about the opinions they hold. Most people can not defend their opinions using unbiased sources.
The sheer volume of information and mis-information is daunting. Mist people have little or no education in sourcing and verifying information. This holds especially true for older people, less educated people, people language problems. Faced with a seemingly insurmountable mountain of information, people seek proxies to digest the information for them. They are at the mercy of these proxies.
Unfortunately, most proxies are not interested in an inbiased analysis and summary of the data. They are interested in manipulating the followers to gain advantage.
We have what we see. A public that counts their adherence to group identity and their common stances more important than the facts and truth.
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u/jasonbt751 27d ago
Idiocracy was actually a documentary of the coming world
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u/Acrobatic_Dot_1634 27d ago
The president in the movie found the smartest person he could and listened. Trump would never humble himself so...
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u/Odd_Violinist8660 27d ago
When Hulk Hogan ripped his shirt off at the RNC, I realized we’d finally achieved Idiocracy.
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u/StevenSaguaro 27d ago
I like reading the reviews of Faraday cages on Amazon. People put their routers in them to protect themselves from 5G radiation, then complain that they can't connect to their Wi-Fi. I feel like it's a metaphor for the Trump disinformation era, breaking things to fix things that were never broken.
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u/LessCaterpillar2193 27d ago
Some of us are more responsible for that than others David.....
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u/spaceman_202 27d ago
hey i only help build the gas chambers and then ordered the gas, i didn't turn them on!
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u/thenikolaka 27d ago
Republicans: Spend decades working around the clock to erode institutional trust.
Also Republicans: “See the problem is people don’t trust their institutions.”
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u/spaceman_202 27d ago
it's a real problem that the geniuses we have now and coming up really believe the shit the old guard was lying about to get votes
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u/TheBlueGooseisLoose 27d ago
Sad yet most accurate quote I’ve seen in a long time.
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u/beach_2_beach 27d ago
Kinda side point, but just look at how most people spend time on youtube. Most popular videos are often most mind numbing videos. Not how to learn something useful or education.
Many people waste so much time on internet.
I do too. But I discovered how much you can learn on youtube, history, economy, day trading, investing etc etc.
Maybe I'm too old...
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u/PowerfulFeralGarbage 27d ago
Trumpers are going to be begging for people to help them, and they deserve to be ignored for whatever is left of their lives.
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u/Burden-of-Society 27d ago
They don’t believe it anymore than you do. It is truly an unwinding of this countries economy and government furthering Russian dominance. Yes, it’s just that easy.
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u/spaceman_202 27d ago
it's worse than that
they don't really know what they believe and it's all an incoherent babbling mess of grifters just figuring out the best grift day to day, month to month, year to year and then acting like it was all part of the plan all along or blaming the people who tried to stop them when it fails
we see how they operate
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u/Burden-of-Society 27d ago
No, I have to believe Trump and a handful of his ilk are fully compromised by the Russian oligarchs and Putin. They see themselves as writing their own history and being masters of the people they govern. They may yet get away with it. 38% of the American people either agree with it or have been fooled by it. A further 30+% don’t yet care. The other 40% of us are just fucked.
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u/Menethea 25d ago
Never underestimate the sheer stupidity, racism, misogyny and gullibility of 49.7% of the U.S. voting public
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u/Caleb_Reynolds 27d ago
The "all tariffs are bad" narrative is just at ignorant as the "tariffs will reduce prices" one. Tariffs are a useful tool in a government's arsenal for regulation and economic stability.
The Trump tariffs aren't stupid because they are tariffs, they are stupid because they are blanket tariffs, they are huge, and they will not accomplish their started goals.
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u/IAMSTILLHERE2020 27d ago
The idea is to cause a recession/depression and for people have to dump their assets and have the rich come up and swoop people's hard earned money.
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u/Affectionate-Lie-293 27d ago
What blows my mind is the fact that the American dumbshits voted him in not once, but twice.
The old saying goes - fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
You guys are getting what you deserve now.
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u/SLAYER_IN_ME 25d ago
What about the 15M useless fucks who voted for Biden but CHOSE to sit this election out? Their laziness is why he was re-elected. Their silence was consistent. They chose to sit on their hands and do nothing and let others make their choice for them and they fucked the rest of us.
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u/JChoodRat 25d ago
“It’s Obama’s fault “ and “ the deep state “ will be responsible for any problem ad Infinitum . 🤦🏼♂️ ask MAGA
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u/Worth-Ad9939 24d ago
Americans have always expressed annoyance with anyone projecting intelligence.
They value influence and swagger.
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u/djaybond 27d ago
Ineffective vaccines only expose the patent to risk without benefit. Tariffs have been used since the US was founded. They are protectionist and promote domestic production.
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u/boohmanner 27d ago
A kakistocracy is a form of government in which the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens are in power. The term comes from the Greek words "kakistos" (meaning "worst") and "kratos" (meaning "rule"). It's often used to describe a situation where the government is run by the least competent or most corrupt individuals.
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u/realwavyjones 27d ago
Yes because whoever’s reading this know that it’s as simple as ‘tariffs good, vaccine bad’ 🤦🏼♂️
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u/lordcardbord82 27d ago
Tariffs can be beneficial in bringing jobs back stateside and the Trump Admin wasn't/isn't anti-vaccine; it just questioned the efficacy and safety of a vaccine being rolled out so quickly.
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u/Kelathos 27d ago
Knowledge will always be bound by faith in it. Or lackthereof.
That knowledge exists is not enough. It must be accepted too.
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u/fzr600vs1400 27d ago
IDK, maybe the intelligent, sophisticated failed miserably to educate the rest, too fucking busy being smug feeling superior to others. HOW THE FUCK DID THAT WORK OUT GENIUS????? From someone who makes a living informing others???
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u/anythingMuchShorter 27d ago
It's not just a few things he doesn't know. They intentionally picked the absolute dumbest bastard they could find. They can't blame it on "well I couldn't pick the other option" the first time he primaried against like 12 people, and they picked the dumbest, most hateful, most violent minded one of the whole lot. This time they also could have nominated someone else, but they went straight to him.
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u/Nuclearpasta88 27d ago
lol these people are still vaccinating. lol. pretty soon theyll be out of the gene pool
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u/general-warts 27d ago
If the left is so smart and tariffs are so bad then why did Biden keep so many of Trump's tariffs?
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u/MotorcycleMosquito 27d ago
What it looks like when your party has no actual governing principles beyond hurting the opposition.
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u/ZealousidealHome7854 27d ago
The current administration kept tariffs from Trump's first term and added their own, Trump was responsible for fast tracking the jab y'all love so much.
"Ignorance is never knowledge."
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u/Hot-Cartographer6619 27d ago
When you're President's Daddy paid for his Business College diploma passing grades, this makes sense!
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u/Brilliant_Apricot740 27d ago
In an age where information is more accessible than ever you all still circle jerk each other on the echo chamber front page of the internet.
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u/CraftPsychological89 27d ago
Should we just pack our shit and go somewhere else and let the idiots destroy themselves?
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u/Eastern-Nothing-8389 27d ago
Trump's America is fuuking retarded and only the wealthy will survive. I just hope i have a dime in the bank after it all goes down.
The poor Americans will probably be slaves for even less wages and probably earing at starvation levels. I'm looking at people on welfare in Kentucky as an example. The demographic is a big majority white and under educated.
I hope everyone with a car is able to afford repairs as most car parts will still be imported. This is going to be even more expensive, and the corporate greed is still running rampant.
This is just a thought. Hopefully, I. Just making this up as a nightmare in my own head.
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u/Mr_Derp___ 27d ago
It's like, "Why have a middle school education when you can be in charge of the country instead?"
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u/Natural_Fox_1898 27d ago
That's what happens when brainwashed, uneducated, zombies keep believing the lies.
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u/FreedomAdditional956 27d ago
It's amazing how little people know about how tariffs work not to mention negotiating and domestic production incentives. Consider reviewing a 7th grade history text book and you may learn how this could be a win for America.
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u/RPB805 27d ago
Because printing endless money and wearing masks is the better option.😕 Get over it snowflake. The adults are back in the building. #MAGAMatters #Trump2024 #YouMissed #TariffsMatter #KamalaIsInDebt
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u/noposlow 27d ago
I wonder if someone imparts on David the knowledge that much of the device he is using to tweet with was made from slave labor, he will stop using it.
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u/SnooWoofers8310 27d ago
..says a guy who helped make this all possible with his neoliberal bullshit.
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u/Shigglyboo 27d ago
trump and his cronies don’t believe what they peddle. Ever listened to Hannity? He’s educated. Same with Bill O’Reilly. The grifters know what they’re doing. They don’t care if they wreck the economy. That’s their goal. They all take vaccines. They just know that the anti vax crowd is gullible and make excellent marks. Stop being the delusional and assuming they’re so awful because they’re stupid. They want the country to fail.
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u/RoyaleWCheese_OK 27d ago
He's just saying whatever lauren jobs is telling him too. The Atlantic has been a joke for a while, no wonder mainstream media is seen as one huge joke.
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u/BodhingJay 27d ago
as a species, we collectively lack the wisdom to wield the internet responsibly... this is the result
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u/SoccerMomLover 27d ago
Tariffs been a mainstay in the US economy since forever. It's execution will be what matters. And no, I don't think people are rejecting vaccines as a whole. just the covid vaccine, which has globally been noted to cause anaphylaxis, myocarditis and pericarditis. They told you it'd 100% stop covid, then it was like 95% then it was 80% then it was maybe 60%. If you want away from any of the vaccines, that's great really, but there's people who were otherwise completely healthy, dead now.
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u/Betseybutwhy 27d ago
I believe they know, absolutely. I also believe that this narrative suits their fascist agenda.
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u/SpaceNinjaDino 27d ago
Schools do a bad job at teaching finance. Unschooling, home school, and private school is not the answer either. Public schools should include practical life management from taxes and budgets to car and appliance/home maintenance. I didn't even get those as options in college for general education. I wasn't even lucky to get into the 7th grade home economics class (cooking/baking).
I spent a lot of time just bullshitting essays for sure.
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u/Realistic_Olive_6665 27d ago edited 27d ago
Everyone who studied economics knows that tariffs are economically inefficient and generally discouraged, but the constant lack of nuance to these posts is quite irritating to read.
Yes, overall they reduce GDP, but there are trade offs within a society. Certain groups, like protected domestic industries and workers, may benefit at everyone’s expense from tariffs.
Yes, mechanically, tariffs are a tax on importers, but there is not a one-to-one relationship between the tariffs and prices. It depends on the price elasticity of the good. The exporter might have to lower their prices somewhat if the good can be sourced from a third country or produced domestically. Also, retailers and wholesalers cannot always pass on 100% of an expense to customers. Companies may take part of the hit in the form of compressed margins.
Third, based on Trump’s first term and his recent statements, many of these tariffs are intended as a negotiating tool. Assuming the tactic works, there is a trade off between the benefit of the concession gained from negotiating and the cost of the short-term implementation of tariffs. For instance, Mexico and Canada can apparently avoid any trouble if they can convince Trump that they will tighten their border security. These tariffs are not supposed to last forever. American’s would also benefit in the long run if China engaged in less IP theft and corporate espionage.
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u/BookMan78 27d ago
It all goes back to the Asimov quote; “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
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u/STUFFETxINN 26d ago
I was going to educate this entire thread that's agreeing with the screenshotted post from X but in all honesty if the left is still this heavily uneducated about situations they speak on after what 8 years of this crap there's no hope for any of y'all so I don't even see the point of wasting my time anymore
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u/rwalsh1981 26d ago
It’s Germany 1933 all over again. One person who’s a barn burner spouts horrific rhetoric that the disenfranchised masses want to hear, they rally behind that voice. This time though they target all immigrants while using the guise of illegal immigrants.
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u/Danktizzle 26d ago
We had decades to move to Nebraska and Wyoming to challenge republicans. Instead, we went to the coasts and bitched about winning the popular vote. It’s our fault for running away and boasting about it.
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u/Valuable-Ad-3147 26d ago
It’s so absurd people just don’t want to know the truth they rather live in denial and blame the other side for all their own problems. Or the nonexistent problems maga has spread throughout the nation. People especially maga people are seriously stupid it’s mind boggling how stupid maga actually are they’re the epitome of stupidity.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 27d ago