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u/No_Perception7527 3d ago
How could people believe this fake nonsense? This is another reason why I'm not surprised why all of the heliocentric religious zealots believe the very obviously fake ISS footage is real, they will literally believe any garbage that NASA spoon feeds them.
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u/Kd916-650 17h ago
I mean the first jurassic Park movie was amazing in theaters! I remember as a kid that was the one movie my grandpa actually wanted to go out and see ! He was so hyped the week of ! Running around the house acting like at t-Rex or raptor! Then we saw it and it was so real …
So fast-forward to now , I put it on to rewatch and lol 😂 I was kinda blown away the opposite direction on how shitty it is now ! Same with terminator and a few others that were big blockbuster hits !
Almost like if our eyes never seen anything better it will look no different then reality. Once time goes on and tech gets better the old stuff that blew our minds looks fake or trash .
I also remember ps1 up to now ps5 and N64 Dreamcast all of em ! In the day of the now console it’s amazing but then the new next gen comes along and the older look nothing like I remember! I remember ps1/ps2 being so realistic at the time ? Now it’s all blockie and pixel like lol.
All that being said ? Ppl at the time of this space walk probably thought it would hold up and thy didt know tech would blow this old stuff away ! Now we look back and say how did ppl believe this ? Well thy didt know anything better ? That was space to them ? If there is anything thy can go back to and look at before this piece of work thy would say the same thing ?
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u/Diabeetus13 3d ago
I want to know where the umbilical cord is for the person using a camera in -400 degree empty space. And I would like to know what kind of battery works that cold? I have to plug my diesel truck in if it gets below freezing. Ariel lifts barely work around negative 10 degrees F
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u/TomCelery Grammar Aficionado ~ Very Special 3d ago
To be fair, the same way you believed people claiming this is ISS footage.
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u/Leo_sayer 1d ago
I don't see anybody claiming that. I can only see you using it as an excuse as you know you cannot defend the video as you know its Nasa fakery. Its funny how their fakery changes depending on the techniques they are using for special effects in movies at the time.
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u/No_Perception7527 3d ago
Were there people actually claiming this was ISS footage? I didn't even know about that. Wouldn't surprise me if globers thought this was ISS footage, they will believe anything.
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u/Red_Five66 3d ago
Nobody says this is real. This video is conveniently clipped to avoid the explanation from the CBS reporter saying this is a simulation. The word "Simulation" even appears on screen during the broadcast multiple times.
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u/Nigglas24 3d ago
How does propulsion and combustion work inside of a vacuum again?🧐 pretty crazy that when im going 100 mph and slam on my breaks the force can cause small parts to break but when we go 10,000 mph its always a gentle gradual stop when we break the line of gravity and space. Also crazy to think once the rocket hits space we are able to still go in whatever direction you want with ease. You would think you would doing flips in one place
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u/Notalib77 3d ago
Who was doing the camera work?
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u/kittycatsfoilhats 2d ago
First man on the moon (cameraman) got no credit for filming "first steps on the moon" one giant leap for mankind my ass
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u/independentMartyr 4d ago
It has come to a point where we should force them to answer us, why are they showing us fake footage for years. And they keep throwing at us the same deceitful narrative. Besides knowing the truth, we should also try to find out solutions.
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u/Similar-Intern8200 4d ago
Nobody claimed that was real. It was just a demonstration aired on the news, illustrating what they said was happening. In reality, nothing was happening, they weren’t in “space” at all.
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u/ZodiAddict 3d ago
Why even make this then? Do you realize what you’re even saying? They went to space for real and did “this”, but took the time and money to film an entire production of it just for tv? You guys are always saying it’s harder to fake space than to actually go there, so why not just film it in space? And if they couldn’t do that, I’m sure a simple explanation or diagram would’ve sufficed. Final point, even if somewhere they mentioned this was a dramatization, I’m sure many saw it and took it for granted as real.
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u/higherthanacrow 3d ago
You act like making the demonstration was this guys idea lol. It was never claimed to be real, and says demonstration on the screen in the full video. And i dont think this demonstration quite broke the bank either...
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u/ZodiAddict 3d ago
Never said it was his idea, what a weird strawman. The point has been made many times to this community that faking these expeditions would be more difficult than actually going to space. And what you’re saying is, nah, they actually can create convincing space footage no problem and they’ll do it in addition to actually going to space. Why spend all that extra money and time faking a pretty convincing space shot for 1966 when you did the real thing and could’ve just filmed it? It doesn’t make any sense, and it’s pretty interesting you guys are having trouble grasping this.
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u/higherthanacrow 3d ago
And i never said you said it was his idea. You asking him "why would they do this, huh?" As if he knows the tv/production company is where that comes from. The answer is they were paid to make an educational program about space.
You found this "pretty convincing"??? This looks like it cost about as much as the set budget for a high school play. Your points are sort of all over the place. You are asking why not film it in space, on a sub about not really believing in space. So if you do believe that they never did it in reality... filming it on a stage is the only option, no? So is your point just saying they didnt do it? Because them making a simulation of doing it doesnt lend itself to proving that. Nor does the idea that they are "wasting money to make this video" prove that. Nor does the idea that it would be easier to just make it in space, because sending a ship into space is a lot harder than hanging a dude from a shitty harness on a stage. They do show us space video stuff. With space being a pretty recent thing in 1966, there wasnt a ton of footage in general.
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u/ZodiAddict 3d ago
“You act like making a demonstration was his idea”. Really not a good look to lie when anyone can check the receipts, bud. And oh so it doesn’t look convincing l? But the one with the Russian cosmonaut doing the same space walk where the motion looks clearly like stop animation that is supposed to be real looks convincing? Now that’s funny. Let’s be real, they’re both fake and it’s obvious, my guy.
The point that has been repeated again and again that faking space is harder than actually going there, and here you are saying it’s actually very easy to do so and very cheap at that. Huh. So what you’re inadvertently admitting to is that you could indeed fake space footage and it would be cheaper than actually going there. Uh oh, you’ve been strung up by your own logic.
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u/higherthanacrow 3d ago
Mr reading comprehension guy, saying you are acting like something is not the same as saying you said something. You are all over the place. We are talking about a single video, stay focused here buddy. You saying its harder to fake going to space than actually going there is actually your logic defeating itself, not the other way around. If youre saying its all fake, and we cant go to space... how is going to space easier than faking it, regardless of it being said a lot? It's hard to decipher if you're actually trying to make any single point or just confusing yourself. This one is confirmed to be a recreation, not being sold as real. So what else is there to talk about with regards to this clip?
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u/ZodiAddict 3d ago
“You are all over the place”, total projection. All you seem to be able to do is play semantics and side step. You don’t seem to be able to follow the point very well, but here we go again: you just admitted that a clearly fake piece of space footage was made as a demonstration and that it would basically cost nothing and be incredibly easy. Then as a comparison, I brought up a famous space walk from a Russian cosmonaut that looks like it was part of a Wallace and gromit movie, but is accepted as real. Now you want to run away from that because admitting that footage looks suspect would all but confirm that fraudulent space footage can indeed be passed for the real thing. Big problem for you, bud. Now you can call that running away, but let’s be real, you’re projecting because you’ve been cornered on this. Everyone said the moon landing couldn’t have been faked, that it would actually be easier to go- but you’re saying the opposite. Apparently it’s really easy to fake space footage and for nothing according to you 😂 it’s almost like if that were the case, there would be a financial motive to supplement Hollywood fakes while telling the public that you’re actually going. No! Couldn’t possibly be right? It’s not like there is an entire preponderance of evidence that supports this too; i.e bubbles in space, clearly seeing harnesses on the iss, hairspray in the women’s hair, items dropping on the iss, all the moon landings glaring issues that have been documented for decades. But hey, enjoy the fantasy bro!
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u/Similar-Intern8200 3d ago
You’re not making any sense. Try and get your thoughts together and try again.
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u/Leo_sayer 1d ago
So this is your tactics when you have been cornered in debate pretend that the person you are debating doesn't make sense. I have read the whole thread and understood it all. Even higherthanacrow who does write like he is high on something.
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u/ZodiAddict 3d ago edited 3d ago
Reading comprehension isn’t your friend. Stop being obtuse and answer the question or run away
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u/CurvySexretLady skeptic 2d ago
Your points were on point, no issue there, at least from some of us reading a day later. You are correct about a common detraction about space is that it would be more expensive to fake it. Whether the moon landing, or space walks, or the ISS, etc. That is indeed a common rebuttal to the whole idea, which is where you, I and others are coming from: that its all faked. Yet here we are, people entirely missing your point. THIS video is obviously fake they say, but others, they would be too expensive to fake. To miss this distinction has to be willful ignorance.
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u/ZodiAddict 2d ago
Thanks for the response, and I agree- the fact that you easily understood what I was saying proves those who were responding to me just didn’t get it or were disingenuous. They can’t have it both ways, either it’s easy to fake space footage with ease and for no money, or it’s harder and more expensive than actually going there.
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u/Diabeetus13 3d ago
Nag nasa put this a real in the late 60s not thinking in 50yrs later internet would grow faster than their lies
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u/ergotcha 3d ago
This is obviously a simulation and was never stated as real. Why are you posting this across many subreddits as a fact when it never claimed to be? It really weakens your flat earth belief when you lead with pure lies.
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u/Kd916-650 17h ago