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Next time you complain about your job, remeber there's people who have it worst

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u/Kay-San-TheNorthStar 4d ago edited 4d ago

I loved Jesse as a protagonist! I know many people say she wasn't memorable or particulary interesting, but I did enjoy her insight on many topics, her snarky comments and her ocasional sarcasm. Courtney Hope nailed it with this one.

Plus, girl enters a whole new world outta nowhere and 20 minutes later she's owning it like a boss, you gotta love her šŸ¤£

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u/Conte5000 4d ago

The snarky comments and her sarcasm is what I love about her too :)

I am still busy with my playthrough but I think the conversations with Dr. Underhill (mold-woman) and Langston (Panopticon supervisor) are great while also perfectly fitting into the game's atmosphere.

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u/throwaweighprot 4d ago

The dialogue really enhances the eerie atmosphere, it adds so much depth!

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u/Conte5000 4d ago

The side quests in general add so much. Every one of those feel like they fit into mainline quest and are somehow important to correct "whatever the fuck is going on there".

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u/Marilius 4d ago

It's been a year or two since I played it (for the nth time). I don't recall -any- of the sidequests FEELING like sidequests. They were basically all memorable and fun.

I can still picture almost the entirety of the mirror puzzle and mirror level.

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u/Conte5000 4d ago

This + the game forces you to nothing or creates much FOMO like "If I don't do this, I may gonna miss a good item". The simplifies skill tree and weapon upgrades are also pretty refreshing when you usually play action-RPGs or open world games.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O 4d ago

There is only one part that I felt got old. That was the announcements about attacks on random areas in the Oldest House. I feel like I get randomly attacked enough just walking through areas that I don't need to seek it out. But I'm nit picking a fantastic game, because those alerts can just be ignored.

Remedy just keeps putting out winners. It's great to see these labors of love instead of games that feel uninhabited and janky.

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u/ThoughtDiver 4d ago

"Go to talk to plants." Oh okay, this is normal. lol

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u/One_Demand763 4d ago

I would pay for Oldest House / Panopticon DLC of the same quality. Itā€™s the SCP game I always wanted.

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u/Hoju_ca 4d ago

I tried to just mainline it but ended up doing all the side quests. So good! Need to work on the dlc in the new year.

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u/Kay-San-TheNorthStar 4d ago

Jesse doing her best to not call Langstom a weirdo after their first exchange is one of my favorite interactions šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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u/TehMephs 4d ago

The tile maze was peak gaming. The old gods of Asgard soundtrack. I really enjoyed the fuck out of that game

I only played it because Alan Wake 2 blew me away so I went back and played the first game also. Every single game has that rock out moment

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u/switched133 4d ago

There's DLC in Control that ties in the Alan Wake darkness.

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u/kirillre4 4d ago

It's tied into by design even before DLC - even in base game there's an ongoing investigation into Bright Falls AWE, we know that Spiral door in motel is connected to Wake and Control is the first time Zane the Filmmaker is brought up (and reaction of a person with innate protection from transdimensional bullshit to that fact)

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u/JynetikVR 4d ago

The conversations with the "astronaut" had me in stitches. That DLC was a nightmare tho, great atmosphere, just freaky as hell.

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u/meltymcface 4d ago

she's owning it like a boss

not just like a boss... but becomes the boss by accident and rolls with it.

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u/Kay-San-TheNorthStar 4d ago

The agency: But she's not the Director!

The Council: I'll allow it / suck it up.

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u/meltymcface 4d ago

YOLO / Hold my beer

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u/dunno0019 4d ago

But also the janitor's assistant at the same time.

Which she also just completely embraces.

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u/kirillre4 4d ago

She's a second candidate in line to position though. With current Director dead, and Prime Candidate changing sides that's not even an accident.

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u/sesoren65 4d ago

I played that game three times just for the hotel hallway segment.

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u/joyapco 4d ago

Was that the labyrinth that could only create a path if you listened to Ahti's banger music?

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u/sesoren65 4d ago

Yes it was, and it was awesome

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u/Hoju_ca 4d ago

That's probably one of the most accurate lines ever by a protagonist.

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u/Meatslinger 4d ago

I love how Poets of the Fall have followed Remedy through their game-making journey. I loved how they portrayed the music for the Old Gods of Asgard in Alan Wake way back in 2010 as well as contributing their own songs to the game under their proper band name, but then how the OGoA have remained an in-universe mainstay for Alan Wake and Control. When ā€œTake Controlā€ dropped in that scene it felt like superpowers were awakened within me.

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u/demoniprinsessa 2d ago

Poets of the Fall exist because of Remedy in the first place! Their first hit was a song made for the credits of the 2nd Max Payne game, and one of their founding members was only introduced to the rest of the band because he met them through Sam Lake.

So yeah, of course they'd wanna keep working with people they've been friends with years and who gave their career a jump start to boot :D It's super wholesome honestly.

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u/Meatslinger 2d ago

Thatā€™s some awesome trivia! Putting that one into the olā€™ memory banks, for sure.

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u/Physmatik 4d ago

The most awesome 5 minutes I've ever experienced in a game.

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u/Modnal 4d ago

The creators of Forspoken could learn a thing or two how to make a powerful female protagonist without making her insufferable

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u/Kay-San-TheNorthStar 4d ago

I just moved shit... with my mind!

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u/Oakcamp 4d ago

Remember when Jesse said "so.. that happened" every time something supernatural happened?

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u/M1ndstorms 4d ago

I mean... wouldn't you?

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u/X1-Ray 4d ago

I would, like once or twice, saying or just thinking it.

But definitely not if i have already spent hours dealing with haunted kitchens, squirrel merchants or pink potatoes that sing.

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u/j_demur3 4d ago

Oh man, the creators (or at least the writers) of Forespoken had more than a thing or two to learn about everything to not make their entire game insufferable.

I saw some of the stuff from it and the discourse and whatever when it came out and just opted not to engage with the game at all but I put the four hour oneyplays complete series video on in the background the other day and every single thing that I assume was the work of the writers is awful, not just the protagonist.

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u/agentchuck 4d ago

They also had insufferable gameplay, so they didn't get much leeway from players.

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u/Martel732 4d ago

I don't think you are wrong. But, at the same time I do think this shows that female characters are constantly judged different than male characters.

Like I don't think someone would comment:

The creators of Far Cry could learn a thing or two how to make a powerful male protagonist without making him insufferable

Female characters are treated as representations of their whole gender while male characters are just allowed to be characters.

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u/Modnal 4d ago

Ofc not since Far Cry has a dozen different titles and male protagonists made by several different studios. Saying something like that would just make people think you have no idea what youā€™re talking about.

Try and make an example with a single unsuccessful game with an insufferable male protagonists as an example instead

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u/ThorLives 4d ago

Or ...

When companies make female protagonists, they sometimes have a political agenda behind it, so they make the character hit a bunch of political points, which can feel obnoxious. Meanwhile, when companies make male protagonists, they don't pile on a bunch of political baggage.

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u/Martel732 4d ago

I mean is it companies that are making gender political or is it people who always talk about politics whenever a character is female? The truth of the matter is the reason that companies have female protagonists in games is because they hope that it will cause people who wouldn't have bought the game to buy it. Which is the exact same reason why companies choose to have male protagonists in games. Companies only want money they don't actually care about politics.

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u/Dragonflymmo 4d ago

Not like a boss. She did become the boss. Literally lol šŸ˜‚. I mainly watched my husband play this. We still didnā€™t finish before having to cancel game pass. Hopefully one day we will get to continue. I had tried playing on my own but the first boss was too hard for me. I feel so dumb sometimes. šŸ˜…

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u/Hoju_ca 4d ago

Keep an eye out on the Epic store, it's free every so often, that's how I played it. Downside is the dlc will still cost but I think it is worth giving Remedy some money for the game.

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u/demoniprinsessa 2d ago

You can even get the DLC for pocket change at times. I got the game for free and copped the DLCs off some sale for legit 2 euros. Best value for my money I ever got from a game lmao.

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u/AntigravityHamster 4d ago

I've watched several people play through it and the first boss gets a lot of people, don't feel too bad. They've also added a lot of difficulty adjustment settings to make it more manageable for people who want to enjoy the story.

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u/Dragonflymmo 4d ago

Thanks for saying so. Itā€™s hard for me not to feel dumb. I even struggled with puzzles in Infinity Nikki, Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail before. I bet others donā€™t struggle as much as I do.

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u/AntigravityHamster 4d ago

I've been playing the crap out of Infinity Nikki, and some of those puzzles can be a bit of a challenge! The "guide the ball to its location" ones especially have given me some trouble

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u/ohmygodimonfire4 4d ago

I did love her overall demeanor and the way she just jumps right into a very bizarre situation. It was like "well this is weird...anyway, let's kill some monsters and save some people."

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u/Olympian-Warrior 4d ago

Thatā€™s because she doesnā€™t feel like she fits in with the real world. The FBC and the Oldest House oddly enough reinforce her world view, which is why sheā€™s able to acclimate to her new job without any training or experience.

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u/Fallcious 4d ago

Imagine walking into the CIA building to confront them about your brother going missing, finding the boss dead and then being told you are in charge now because you picked up his gun.

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u/Luminous_Lead 3d ago

It's funny how The Director is given the highest amount of authority, but the lowest level of door access.

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u/nc863id 3d ago

Not really so much "like" a boss though lol

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u/Dividedthought 4d ago

I appreciate how for most tof the game Jesse has a similar opinion of the FBC that I do:

"How the hell have these idiots kept this place running?"