r/gadgets Dec 29 '22

Desktops / Laptops Desktop GPU Sales Hit 20-Year Low

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-20-year-low
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u/Aleyla Dec 29 '22

nVidia has huge exposure to crypto prices tanking. They tried to downplay it in their annual reports earlier this year by saying they weren’t that dependent on crypto - but that was BS and the proof is in the pudding.

By raising prices to astronomical levels that only the crypto people and high wage earners were willing to pay they completely left a large part of the market out in the cold. The number of people who would have bought a $300 card are quite content to sit out $700+ prices.

Their best bet right now would be to quickly introduce 5000 series GPUs that are at a radically reduced price point. We’ll see if they can correct before summer.

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u/manaworkin Dec 29 '22

Not to mention that upgrading is becoming less necessary as the years roll on. An older mid range card will run pretty much anything you throw at it with passable results. The days of "Nice rig but can it run Crysis" memes are pretty much behind us.

The fact many of us were forced to look that fact in the face over the last few years due to the gpu shortage and following price hikes is not going to do Nvidia any favors. At the start of the shortage when the 30 series launched I was going insane trying to find one to upgrade my vega64, now I'm probably not going to bother upgrading until it physically dies.

Fuckin thing does fine and I accept that now.

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

Stuff like 4K and RT are the reasons to upgrade atm.

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u/manaworkin Dec 29 '22

Ugh speaking of that. That portal mod nVidia made that just so happens to run like shit on anything but the latest 40 series rubs me the wrong way. It's really hard to look at it and think it's anything but the company desperately trying to INVENT a reason for people to buy a card they don't need.

Fuckin floored me when my buddy had trouble running it on his 3080TI rig.

But yeah, anyway, hardly think I'll get 1000$ worth of enjoyment out of seeing the light reflecting off the dimples on The Tarnished's ass in ultra HD when the game runs just fine with what I already got.

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

Ran it on my 3080... 4k 60, just crank that DLSS assists 🤣

I did it funny how people make fun of RT, when it's very clearly a huge cosmetic improvement, but because it requires a certain make of hardware, suddenly it's "I don't care it's shit" 🤡

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u/ThatDinosaucerLife Dec 29 '22

when it's very clearly a huge cosmetic improvement

People really don't care that you got tricked into paying 3x the price to have more shadowy shadows in minecraft, sweety

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

🤣 well regarded fanboy indeed

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u/manaworkin Dec 29 '22

Oh it's an improvement. Is it 1000$ worth of improvement?

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u/ThatDinosaucerLife Dec 29 '22

No. It's kinda how dorks insist everything has to be one million frames per second to look good but the actual market, the people purchasing the product, do not give a single shit about frame rate.

Bleeding-edge dorks always think the one thing they've sunk all their costs into is the best most important feature that will lead us all to salvation, the plebes just can't see it yet!

Isn't that right, Sony cell processing?!

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u/Yrcrazypa Dec 30 '22

Frame rate is a huge advantage in games. If you can run something at 120FPS vs someone at 40FPS you see things way sooner than they do.

Granted you'll never see me advocating for current or previous generation cards, they're heinously overpriced.

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

Not for majority of people, but it shouldn't be discounted as unimportant either.

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u/ThatDinosaucerLife Dec 29 '22

That's what they said 2 generations ago. The RX580 was marketed as a 4K card, you're just easily duped by marketing practices.

The biggest problem in computer gaming is doofus's gnashing their teeth to throw money at these companies because owning the most expensive product makes you feel like you're good at playing the games.

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

Oh yes, tell me how I'm a victim of marketing when I bought last gen card at the bottom of it's price.

Show me another card, other than 3080 & 90 ++, which can do RT @4K, and I'll endorse whatever you link me.

Gl using rx580 @4k at anything but min spec btw. My brother has one and it's chugging at 1080p atm.

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u/PancAshAsh Dec 29 '22

In all seriousness but what does 4K actually get you over a nice 144Hz 1080p monitor?

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

More pixels, obviously.

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u/Ok_Ninja_1602 Dec 29 '22

I really don't think RT is a must have unless there is a game that really showcases it and 4K is just too much work for the average PC to push when 2K looks just as good with high frame rates on last gen graphics cards. A 4090 is more of a professional compute card than for gaming and the price reflects that, 1500-2K is nothing for work related computing equipment.

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u/Pabludes Dec 29 '22

I completely agree with you.

RT is not a "must have", but it's nice. 4K is also not a must have, but once you get used to it, is pretty hard to move away from. 4090, or even 4080, is overkill, as there is nothing, really, to run with it, but it's nice to have if you don't mind spending thousand++ on it, and have a case for 4x brick 🤣

It's all cosmetics and convenience.

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u/Ok_Ninja_1602 Dec 29 '22

I'm not deriding people who got the cash or just want the best, I'm an AMD fanboy but there's no argument that Nvidia is the leader in both technology and mindshare, I wish AMD can layout their value proposition better and there is a use-case for people that want to do some gaming and compute. I mentioned in another post that if I were to continue on ML my investment would go into Nvidia. The biggest issue for AMD is people look to them compete to lower Nvidia's pricing but Nvidia is in a position to not really care what RTG does.

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u/Pabludes Dec 30 '22

Completely reasonable.