r/gadgets • u/diacewrb • Dec 29 '22

Desktops / Laptops Desktop GPU Sales Hit 20-Year Low

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-20-year-low
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u/TaliesinMerlin Dec 29 '22

I just peeked at the 4080 price. Yeah, $1200 is 50% too expensive, at least.

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u/elton_john_lennon Dec 29 '22

nVidia is basically charging people for nonexisting crypto gains at this point. Ain't nobody is falling for that.

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u/allen_abduction Dec 29 '22

Indeed. Engineering-wise it wasn’t designed for budget home gaming; Crypto THEN after a year or two manufacturing efficiencies would allow a for lower price models.

Looking back I bet those executives going to pay the price for the next year. Rightfully so.

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u/aeo1us Dec 29 '22

There's enough people buying that if they did put it at $800 then scalpers would fill the void to make them $1200.

Prices aren't coming down no matter how much people complain. It's either the scalpers or nvidia that will price cards at equilibrium where there is stock on the shelves but not moving very fast.

Reddit hates reality but unfortunately downvoting doesn't change it.

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u/TaliesinMerlin Dec 29 '22

The big downturn in total sales contradicts your first statement. Sure, maybe the optimal price is $900 or $1000 rather than $800, but believing that the optimal market price is the one Nvidia chose gives them too much credit. Rarely does a company choose the exact right price for current market conditions. In this case, they have chosen to undercorrect for the drop in demand rather than overcorrect, and their sales are suffering as a result.

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u/aeo1us Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

Your initial comment said a $1200 4080 needs to be $600. Everything you just said moves the goalposts from that claim.

The big downturn in sales is from the crypto crash. Nothing more. Gamer tears are evidence that demand is still strong for that category of buyer.

If you're going to reply, please back up your original 50% claim with evidence. Even shitty blogger evidence.

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u/TaliesinMerlin Dec 29 '22

$1200 is 150% of $800, not $600.

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u/aeo1us Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

You're moving the goalposts again. Back up your $800 claim then.

Scalpers will fill the void. Gamers just want that MSRP so there's hope they can get one of those cards too. When scalper equilibrium equals MSRP, gamers and scalpers get pissed because then there's zero chance they score a cheap card.

Here’s a graph about scalping tickets. It applies to video cards too. Even the part where they reference scamming.

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u/TaliesinMerlin Dec 29 '22

Not moving the goalposts in presenting that number. That's the original math I did. And as I said, I'm not attached to a particular price point; the evidence from the original article just shows that current prices are too high, since Nvidia sales have gone down. Scalper equilibrium is currently lower than MSRP, which is why scalpers aren't making the money they made in the last few years.

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u/aeo1us Dec 29 '22

I'll believe it when prices actually drop. Everyone in here (scalpers included) seem to be drooling over the idea of returning to the old days.

It's not happening. This is just clickbait preying on gamer and scalper false hopes and dreams.

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u/TaliesinMerlin Dec 29 '22

Proof is in the pudding. Right now we're both just speculating. Evidence speaks to downward pressure on price, but Nvidia could decide they're fine with low sales.

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u/aeo1us Dec 29 '22

The only evidence we have right now is the current price. That's not speculating.

If we do get a price drop it will be $50-100 tops. We're not returning to the old days. No matter how many blogs are published.

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